#2 Democrat Breaks With Pelosi: ‘Wall Is Not Immoral’

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House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) has been a longtime friend to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) but that doesn’t mean he always agrees with her. This is one of those times. He begrudgingly admitted on Fox News’ “Special Report with Bret Baier” that border walls “obviously” work in some areas. He went on to reject suggestions that barriers should be removed where they already exist. That’s the semi-sane voice of the left speaking there.

Hoyer is the #2 Democrat. He went on to emphasize that the dispute over whether to fund President Trump’s border wall is “not an issue of morality.” Ouch. That’s not what Pelosi is saying. In fact, it’s the exact opposite. Pelosi and other Democrats have argued that border walls like the one Trump is proposing are ineffective and immoral. It feels like Hoyer is floating a possibility of negotiations here.

Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-TX) told CNN just last week that “we know walls don’t work, that they don’t stop drugs, that they don’t stop migration.” She also said she was open to destroying existing walls, remarking that they are “really ugly” and “monuments to division.” That is the current real face of the Democratic Party. Unhinged and uncaring about crime, sovereignty, and national security.

Pelosi has infamously promised to not give one dollar to Trump’s border wall under any circumstances. She flatly stated over and over and over again earlier this month that “a wall, in my view, is an immorality” and “the least effective way to protect the border and the most costly.” Hoyer doesn’t seem to be down with that at all and when speaking to Baier, he distanced himself from her comments.

“Obviously, they work some places,” Hoyer retorted when asked if he favored removing border walls. “But the president wanted to first build a wall apparently 1,954 miles of — and he changed that very substantially.” Hoyer wasn’t finished either: “A wall is — that protects people is not immoral. I think the issue is whether it works. … And the debate ought to be not on morality or racism, I will — I will say that we’re not pleased with some rhetoric that has come about dealing with those — coming across the border, and we think some of the rhetoric was in fact racist. We think some of that rhetoric was to inflame and was not based upon facts.”

Just last year, Democratic leaders were willing to provide $25 billion for border security including building a wall. Now, suddenly, they act as if they never did so. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and other Democratic leaders such as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton supported the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized the construction of some 700 miles of fencing at the border. As of 2015, virtually all of that fencing had been completed, according to government figures. This is sheer politics at play.

If you listen to Border Patrol agents they will tell you that walls work… period. “We certainly do need a wall. Talk to any border agent and they will tell you that,” Border Patrol Chief Carla Provost told Fox News’ “Your World.”

From Fox News:

“Hoyer suggested that Democrats were willing to compromise with the White House to end the shutdown, the longest in the nation’s history.

“Well, we’re prepared to do that,” Hoyer said, referring to reaching a deal with the Trump administration. “I think there can be a compromise position. There are all sorts of alternatives that we could pursue, I think, to come up with a consensus solution to achieve the objective I think we all want to achieve, and that is a secure and safe border for our country and for our citizens.”

“Hoyer stressed that Democrats have supported “substantial restraints,” including fencing and other technologies.

“Congressional Democrats on Tuesday rejected Trump’s invitation to a lunch meeting at the White House to discuss border security, a move Hoyer said at the time was unhelpful. (“My advice to members is that if the president invites you and want to talk, you ought to go down,” Hoyer told Fox News on Tuesday.)

“Unfortunately, the focus has been on one issue and that’s made it very, very difficult to discuss alternatives in ways of securing the border,” Hoyer told Baier. “We don’t think the wall works — as you know, an awful lot of Republicans didn’t — don’t think the wall will work as well. … Having said that, we’re prepared to work with the president to make sure our borders are secure. And that’s the important point.”

“Trump on Wednesday signed a bill guaranteeing back pay for federal workers who have been furloughed or forced to work without pay during the shutdown, which started Dec. 22.

“Federal employees – including Secret Service agents — received pay stubs with nothing but zeros on them last week. Some posted photos of their empty earnings statements on social media as a rallying cry to end the impasse.

“Responding to Pelosi’s explosive suggestion that the upcoming Jan. 29 State of the Union address by Trump to Congress should be delayed because Secret Service and Homeland Security agents are not receiving paychecks, Hoyer said no final decision has been made. All three branches of government traditionally gather in the Capitol for the high-security event.

“No, I don’t think it’s officially off. We — I had not seen the speaker’s letter,” Hoyer said. “What she suggests is a real security problem unless we’ve opened up the government. So — and we haven’t gotten a reply from the president and his thoughts. So it’s — it’s not officially off. No.”‘

Agents on the border and national security officials have all pushed back over Pelosi’s claims here. Our security teams are prepared… they live in a state of preparedness. In other words, she’s not telling the truth. “It is unbecoming of a speaker to do this,” House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) stated. That’s an understatement. It’s dare I say, ‘immoral’.

Sources: Fox News, The Washington Times, Real Clear Politics

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