Parents Deemed Too ‘Dumb’ By The State Have Their Children Taken Away…

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Oregon parents have been fighting a legal battle to get their children back as the state basically deemed them too stupid to take care of their own children in a safe and proper manner. A example of the state raising your children – literally. Whether it was necessary or not, you decide for yourself.

Amy Fabbrini, 31, was said to have been oblivious about her state of pregnancy when she had eventually hit further in her 3rd trimester with her now eldest son, Christopher. Fabbrini did not obtain a formal examination or treatment throughout her whole pregnancy and ended up gong into advanced labor in the couple’s home, where she gave birth Sept. 9, 2013.

Fabbrini’s partner, Eric Ziegler, 38, was getting financial aid through the Social Security and Supplemental Security Income program due to a mental handicap he was diagnosed with. Earlier this year, Social Services acquired and fostered the pair’s second newborn baby, Hunter, while he was in the hospital, due to a few past allegations that they had been accused of.

Someone related to the couple was the first to express concern in an objection to authorities having to do with Christopher’s well-being under the care of Fabbrini and Ziegler. A child welfare report supposedly claimed that Ziegler had been ‘sleeping with the baby on the floor and almost rolled over on him.’

Fabbrini’s father, Raymond, said he and his wife were the actual ones taking care of their little one because he evaluated his daughter did not possess the ‘instincts to be a mother.’

Daily Mail:

After taking a required IQ test, Ziegler scored a meager 66 and Fabbrini a 72. The IQ of the average person ranges anywhere from 90-110. Ziegler’s IQ score categorized him under the mild ‘intellectual disability’ range, while Fabbrini ‘extremely low to borderline range of intelligence,’ according to the report.

Fabbrini had been working as a grocer to help provide for her family at the time. Ziegler was unemployed due to his health condition.

Board member of Healthy Families of the High Desert and advocator for the couple, Sherrene Hagenbach, said the decision to place Christopher and Hunter up for adoption lacks substantial ground work and may be even more detrimental to the family as a whole.

‘They are saying they are intellectually incapable without any guidelines to go by,’ Hagenbach said. ‘They’re saying that this foster care provider is better for the child because she can provide more financially, provide better education, things like that. If we’re going to get on that train, Bill Gates should take my children. There’s always somebody better than us, so it’s a very dangerous position to be in.’

Domestic abuse and neglect were not reported issues in this particular case.

Fabbrini’s aunt, Lenora Turner, spoke with reporters and claimed that she believed the conclusion to take the children away was unfair in the end.

‘I honestly don’t understand why they can’t have their children. I go to the grocery store and I see other people with their children and they’re standing up in the grocery cart. I think, how come they get to keep their children? How do they decide whose child they’re going to take and whose child can stay?’


Due to Oregon’s law concerning the matter, both children will remain under watch by foster care, as sad as that is. The parents are only given visitation rights under the supervision of a responbsible adult.

…This is just sad.

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