Kansas school board brings back student-led prayer

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I came across this story and wanted to share it. I love when people stand up for what is right! People are always asking how do we “fix” our problems, what is going on with kids today? School shootings? Disrespectful, Insulting, Irresponsible, Lost… The people in this town have taken a stand for their children, taken a stand for GOD. -Joe Wurzelbacher

 

A rural Kansas School Board courageously defied 50 years of U.S. Supreme Court rulings by allowing student-led prayer at all school activities, even broadcasting them on the school’s public address system.

What began as an unscheduled, impromptu suggestion at a Monday ISD No. 480 School Board meeting ended up as a motion that was immediately seconded, discussed and unanimously approved, according to the Leader and Times.

“I think that’s one of the greatest things we’ve ever done,” said Board Member Tammy Sutherland-Abbott, who seconded Board Member Nick Hatcher’s motion.

Hatcher had spontaneously introduced the idea.

“I would like to see us bring prayer back to the games,” he told his fellow board members. “I have struggled with that — not having prayer at our activities — because it’s ‘not the thing to do,’ but if the board thought it was important enough that they would support it, and defend it if the time came, I’d like to ask that we do that at our next meeting.”

The schools superintendent questioned why the board should wait until the next meeting.

“We do live in a democratic society, and I personally feel like our community would support that decision, regardless of the rest of the world,” Hatcher said.

The Leader and Times reported:

Several years ago, LHS discontinued prayer at events like football games. Administration voiced concern that, by making the P.A. system available for prayers led by students or community members, the district could be perceived as sanctioning or even promoting traditional Christian prayer in violation of federal law. Student-led prayers then moved to the football field itself, prior to the game. However, no microphone or speaker system allowed spectators to hear such prayers. Monday night’s vote will permit students to utilize the P.A. system for prayer before football games and all other special activities in the district.

The Warren Supreme Court declared school-sanctioned prayer unconstitutional in the 1962 case of Engel v. Vitale. In that case, the New York officials were challenged for encouraging public schools to recite prayers written by them.

The 2000 case of Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe, however, is more directly on point. In that case, the court ruled 6-3 that student-composed and -led prayer prior to football games is unconstitutional as a violation of the First Amendment’s establishment clause.

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22 Comments
  1. jb80538 says

    GOOD! if mudslimes are allowed their prayer time, ALL religions should be afforded the same.

  2. Richard Adams says

    Most of you objecting to these student-led prayers are missing the point. The school is not sanctioning the prayer. What they are doing is allowing equal access to the PA system for the football team. You see, if the school allows the PA system to be used by other groups for secular use then they must allow equal access to the football team. As long as the speech does not violate the school’s speech code (normally along the lines of not causing a disturbance to instruction, promoting drug use, or defamatory speech) the students can say what ever they wish without prior approval or consent from the school.

    Look up Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969) and the majority opinion.

  3. ForrestHorn says

    Yayyyy! You GO, Kansas!

  4. jerri says

    Matthew 10:33 – But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

  5. jerri says

    America rise up!!!

  6. SniperToo says

    All I can say is Amen. It is time that the public schools find their Christian back bone again and retrieve their moral compass. Wouldn’t it be great if this became contagious?

  7. Chicago720 says

    The biggest problem I see here is that once we allow prayer in school, it can’t just be Christian prayer. What if your kid has a classmate who is Hindu? Should that child be subjected to Christian prayer? What if a Christian child attends school in a location dominated by Jewish students. Should that child be required to pray with the Jews? Shall we allow Muslim children their 5 daily prayer breaks?

    As much as many here would like to think, this nation isn’t all rural Kansas where everyone is white and Christian.

    1. Marie Frisbie says

      Muslim children all ready get to leave class and pray some school have foot baths for muslim children where have you been

      1. Chicago720 says

        You tell me where YOU have been and see that Muslim children get to leave class to pray. I teach in the public schools near Chicago and no one gets prayer accommodations. I’m sure you can cite this so I can be better educated. Because I am not aware of Muslim kids leaving class to pray or having foot baths in public schools. Please help me understand this better, Marie.

        1. LastNameFirst says

          That explains your liberal leaning and lack of morals.

    2. Pnut3269 says

      no, this is and has been a country founded on Christian principles!!!! Can’t any of you people LOOK THAT UP!!!!

      1. Chicago720 says

        Our founders may have been Christians of one stripe or another, but we are not a Christian nation. In fact, the constitution even states that religion is a freedom, but not which one. The argument I pose is that if you intend to open the doors to prayer in schools, it cannot just be Christian prayer. To suggest anything different is simple bigotry.

        1. LastNameFirst says

          You are wrong! This is a Christian Nation! Christianity is the dominate religion in the U.S.

  8. Bonnie Dye says

    Let’s all pray!

  9. Elaine Eckart says

    when God is on our side, how can we lose? He is always here, waiting to hear our prayers.

    1. Chicago720 says

      So why does God require your child to pray while at school? Or better said, why must your child’s school and/or classmates who may or may not subscribe to your specific religion be required to sanction prayer during school hours? If God is always here, and in our hearts and minds, it matters not what words cross our lips or don’t cross our lips when we are in a diverse public setting.

      If you want to allow prayer in schools, you’d best be prepared to allow the Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Wiccans, and Christians to all be allowed to pray. Can’t have it both ways.

  10. DixieAngel_76 says

    But no one ever has a problem allowing muslim prayers, do they?

    1. Chicago720 says

      Uh, where exactly are there school sanctioned Muslim prayers in the U.S? I think what is lost on a lot of people is the idea that just because students don’t have an actual prayer in school that they cannot pray. No one, anywhere, unless you can cite something, prohibits students from praying. The schools simply cannot sanction a prayer. Funny how people are offended by the idea of a Muslim praying, but not by a Christian praying. What really is the difference?

      1. LastNameFirst says

        Dearborn, MI.
        BTW, you sound just like Hillary.

  11. Graywolf12 says

    IT is time someone stood up against the 1963 goals of communism. Read them, especially 17,18,19, and 28. All deal with schools and religion. Educate your self and fight back. We are nearly too far gone, but there is hope other than war.

  12. Robert Varner says

    I believe you wrote that,”student-composed and -led prayer prior to football games is unconstitutional”, Fine, have a parent stand and pray.Figure it out. There’s always a way.

    1. jb80538 says

      It’s not unconstitutional. The constitution just does not allow for the governenment to sanction a particular religion as a state sponsored religion. There is no such thing as “separation of church and state”

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