New Mexico Court Tells Christians to Compromise

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I don’t want to say “I told you so,” but… I told you so. For as long as I have been given an opportunity to write for some of the coolest conservative websites on the internet, I have been trying to warn my readers that the gay marriage debate is red herring. We conservative Christians usually get caught up right at the start of the debate with the idea that homosexuality is sin and it is anti God’s nature. (It is both of those things) We rightly contest that gay marriage is unnatural and should have no place in society because it harms the fabric of our social structure by weakening the most important part of our social system – the family.

However… legalizing gay marriage in and of itself has never been the true goal of the leftist political activist. Their true goal has always been consolidating power in the hands of the federal government. We conservatives actually helped them in the gay marriage debate by asking the government for its approval of our definition of marriage. What I argued we should have said was that the government has no right to define for us what marriage is. We have allowed the government to label marriage as a “contract” when in fact marriage is a “covenant” between a man, a woman and God.

We conservatives also further hurt ourselves when we failed to realize the consequences of our side of the debate. If we lost, we weren’t simply losing the marriage debate – we were opening the door for government to involve itself in our religious beliefs. We let the LEFT turn the debate into a human right or civil rights issue, and at the moment that happened we left the entire American church open to harassment from the federal government and the court system.

Well, the persecution from the state and the courts has begun.
Read the rest at eaglerising.com

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28 Comments
  1. Chuck Robey says

    Whatever happened to a businesses right to refuse service to anyone….

    1. Erich Vasil says

      Segregation happened. The oppression of an entire group of people solely because they had more melanin in their skin.

  2. CleanFun says

    The government, against whom I cast my vote, has legalized a lot of things that I don’t agree with. I learned early to not look toward government for moral or ethical guidance. What they have yet to learn is that legal recourse was a gentle correction.

    Romans, Chapter 1

    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    To my mind, he’s describing progressive liberals in graphic detail. That evil spirit is ancient, it’s just going under a new name.

  3. Dan Gwinn says

    So my employer has no right to punish me for refusing to service any of you religious nutjobs? Or no one has a right to complain if I run a business that prioritizes service to atheists?

    1. CleanFun says

      Just work on getting the job first. Then you can scheme on how you will try to hurt those who love God.

  4. SniperToo says

    First: They didn’t get a moral judge who is suppose to uphold the Constitution.
    Second: if these perverted sicko’s had been mature adults; they would have turned around, walked out and found another photographer shop who wouldn’t mind taking pictures for them. There are many homo photo shops out there that would be willing to take the pictures of the perverted event.

    Third: These immature jerks just wanted to take this couple’s rights away at any cost.
    Fourth: I wonder how much money the ACLU paid them to go and attack this couple, destroy their business, all in the name of political correctness. Some one should investigate them.

    If I walked into a shop and ask for their business, and for what ever reason, they denied me; than fine. I would ask them, do you know where I can find another business who will help me out. This is the sign of a mature adult, not two 5 year old’s who wanted to throw tantrims and make an issue out of something that was an ante hill.

    Anything to destroy a normal business and turn this country into an immoral mess. It’s the sicko Marxist way. This judge needs to be [email protected]@ch slapped. This couple had the right to refuse them, PERIOD. And not only have these sicko’s violated this couple’s Christian Constitutional Rights but they have also financially hurt them. I hope these two @ss holes are proud of themselves.

    1. paizlea says

      So sorry you hate anti-discrimination laws, but that’s the terrible society we live in now. But I have to ask, what are “Christian Constitutional Rights”? How are they different from American Constitutional rights?

    2. Erich Vasil says

      If you’re in business, refusal of service must be based on a legitimate grievance. For instance, if it was unlawful to be nude in an area, and someone walked into a regional coffee shop, stark-naked, the proprietor would be within their legal rights to deny service. If someone is being violent, the proprietor has the right to refuse service. If a patron is boisterous and causing a disturbance, the proprietor, yet again, retains the right to refuse service. However, simply not liking someone holds no legal precedent in which to refuse service. Would you agree with a business denying service to black people? If so, that really wouldn’t surprise me. You’re clearly a hateful bigot.

  5. IslandJohn says

    Marriage in the religious context can never be redefined by any government. But marriage in the legal context is a definition of a partnership of property and rights of one person with another person for their care and the care of their offspring or dependents. When states required a license to be married to another person it was to legally bind two persons into a legal partnership with responsibilities of a partnership. Most people of religion got to city hall to fill out the proper documents for a legal partnership it has no religious significance, then they go to their church and vow their covenant to each other before their God. The author is correct by asking the government to define what is correct for whatever religiously moral purpose is to invite them to define what is correct for your religious beliefs. We cannot legislate religious morality into people, to do so would be akin to sharia law. The best way is to lead by example and let God judge the sinners

  6. bahndon says

    As a Christian, we are to LOVE as Jesus LOVES. We need to treat sodomites with LOVE, we do not need to like their chosen lifestyle. With LOVE we may be able to open their eyes and soften their hearts toward God, refusing service to sodomites will only harden their hearts against their own salvation. God does NOT want any to perish, we as Christians are to Love God with all our might, heart, and soul, Love our neighbor as we Love ourselves, Preach the Gospel and heal the sick, we can not do that when we refuse to Love first and serve God and take the money for the service rendered from the sodomites as we Love a Godly Love on them, and give at least 10% of their money to God for God’s Word being spread to those willing to listen.

    1. nick says

      “refusing service to sodomites…” Need clarification on what you mean here before I can comment

      1. bahndon says

        if you are in a business that offers a service (Cake, Photography, Limo …) and refuse to perform that service to sodomites then you lose the opportunity to Love a Godly Love on them and only cause their hearts to harden toward you and the God you serve.

        1. paizlea says

          It’s rare to find conservative Christians who actually follow Christ’s teaching of loving your neighbors. Thanks for staying true to the faith!

          1. bahndon says

            yes, being a pilgrim in the earth looking forward to the day I return to the Kingdom with my Heavenly Father, and Big Brother Jesus, has it’s rewards only when one sees people like Jesus see them. We were all made in the image of God, we are all LOVED by God and are expected to become the likeness of Jesus. We all should be looking for the gold in each person, and bringing it out in them. God’s LOVE for me is like a waterfall making me wet and splashing off me as water does on a rock at the bottom, so I can be like Jesus, anointed with the Holy Spirit, endued with Power to do GOOD and Heal those Oppressed by the devil.

          2. pepjrp says

            You’re thinking is flawed.

          3. paizlea says

            Your understanding of Jesus’ message is flawed, which is far worse.

        2. pepjrp says

          When you photograph their wedding, you are also condoning their behavior and giving your approval. I see your point, but you are helping bad to spread. Even Jesus drew a line.

          1. bahndon says

            I strongly disagree, Jesus Died for ALL sin once for ALL, By photographing, or in any way serving the needs of the sodomites gives the opportunity to show Godly LOVE to the deceived sodomite, and plant the seed for their repentance unto salvation, by refusing you are judging and condemning the person not the sin. The woman caught in adultery and brought before Jesus is an example of how Jesus handled sin, how can a Christian handle sin any differently?

          2. pepjrp says

            Jesus told her to go and sin no more. In other words, he told her to stop how she was behaving. He did not condone or any way showed he agreed with her actions, So will you film this farce of a wedding, but tell them to stop it? No, they will think you are in agreement with it. That’s the difference in your example.

          3. bahndon says

            You miss the point, serving the requests of the sodomites gives you the opportunity to show the Love of God for His created, these encounters could be a Holy Spirit set up to give you the opportunity to bring them into God’s Grace and repent to sin no more. If you are not willing to offer the Gospel to them for their salvation, then you are just as sick as they are.

    2. Erich Vasil says

      What is a sodomite? It’s never made clear, in the bible, as to what the people of Sodom and Gomorrah did, specifically, to earn “god’s wrath”. They’re just described as immoral, with literally zero details of what made them so. Also, please note that homosexuals are not “sick”. Homosexuality is a natural and common occurrence among many species. Some species even change genders within their life cycle. If you really love the person we know as Jesus, you’d shun the ignorant teachings of the oppressive and education-repressing church, as did the bible’s Jesus. If Jesus existed, he was simply a man more enlightened than the common desert nomad of his era, and most likely studied Buddhist teachings, then formed his own philosophies on how to reach enlightenment. Don’t let something as corrupt, sinister, and absolutely evil as the church ruin the legacy he attempted to leave. Just be, and let others be, without trying to change them to suit indoctrinated beliefs. You’ll be much happier. Though, this is merely advisory. Perhaps you need to learn from being passively bigoted. This is your journey. You obviously want to be a nice and understanding person, though. Don’t let a group of tax evading and thieving child molesters hold you back.

      1. Trace Smith says

        Ever hear of the word sodomy? And the bible is quite clear as to the behavior of the sodomites and why they were destroyed.

  7. Jim says

    A remarkable truth well written. We conservatives are so righteous sometimes we don’t realize we are being Played.

    1. paizlea says

      Being played? By who? By taking benefits from the government for what should be an exclusively sacred commitment, heterosexual married couples have set themselves up. No one is forcing you to to register your marriage with the government. Shouldn’t this be between the couple and God?

  8. Bruce Stroh says

    As a Christian, I was taught to “turn the other cheek” — NOT to bend over and spread ’em!
    Those imbecilic New Mexico “judges” can kiss my a$$, and I’ll even let ’em compromise with me which cheek it’ll be on, or whether it’ll be right in the middle!
    C’mere, your (dis)Honor… I wanna talk with ya!

    1. Erich Vasil says

      If you had a legitimate point to make, you failed to do so. This was nothing but vitriolic and puerile banter. More and more people are demanding equal rights, because we live in an age of information where we can more readily observe that archaic traditions of oppressive nature are not good for nearly all living things. We just ask that certain people stop being hateful and oppressive bullies. What’s so unfair to you about that? The system isn’t hurting a particular group of people as much as you’d like them to, anymore, and that’s somehow persecuting you? Give me a break! Does white male privilege really extend so far as to not only demand freedom from any criticism, and more social advantages than anyone else, but also the “right” to terrorise and condemn others you dislike, to force them to live in the shadows and enjoy none of the liberties afforded the people you do agree with? What is your problem, exactly? I’m beginning to think you guys all got picked on profusely in high school and have been laughed at profusely by any women, and men, you tried to sleep with.

  9. William Mdcannold Jr. says

    The article has it right ! Unfortunately, even those of us who call ourselves conservative are too often not conservative enough. ie – It truly is none of the government’s damned business and we should have delivered that demand in spades from the git-go. We still can but we’re now handicapped even more. Most folks deem it rational to be fair and helpful and place stock in minding their own business. Are we learning that we must re-examine that – that we must teach ourselves to think as a perversionists (or at least understand their tactics). When we stop to examine the entire picture we can identify that all the perversion is being caused by a small percentage of the population – along with a select global few who endeavor to control commerce and finance. We still have the high ground in numbers. Will we use it – or will we be the elephant driven to hysterics by a mouse? come to think of it, that would make a dandy cartoon ……………. The elephant of the people cringing and fleeing before the globalist, Marxist mouse. Caption: “what’s wrong with this picture”? Someone draw it up, print it and make lot’s of money!

    1. paizlea says

      It’s too bad so Christians think they need the government to bless their “sacred union.” But those benefits for being married by the state are so tempting… Once the so-called supporters of traditional marriage start refusing government-sanctioned marriage, then the SSM crowd won’t have a reason to call them hypocrites.

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