Ben Carson Agrees With Joe the Plumber on the Holocaust & Gun Control [video]

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Seems like yesterday I made the outrageous (their words, not mine) statement that if Jews and other millions of people in Europe whom Adolf Hitler first disarmed, then proceeded to slaughter during WWII would have had the same Right to Bear Arms protections we Americans have – things may have been different.

Now Dr. Ben Carson is catching the usual knee-jerk, slack from the leftists and Anti-Second Amendment crowd for agreeing with me that quote “… if guns had not been confiscated from Jews then Hitler would have had more trouble orchestrating the Holocaust…” on both the Sean Hannity Show and CNN.

At the very least, they would have had a fighting chance against the Nazis instead of the systematic rounding up, experimenting on, torturing, humiliating, starving and ultimately exterminating millions in that dark part of history often associated with the phrase “never again.” by Joe Wurzelbacher

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Jonathan Greenblatt, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League, quickly objected, stated that there were few firearms available to Jews in Germany in 1938 and that surrendering them did not measurably contribute to the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.

Ben Carson is right, and Jonathan Greenblatt is wrong.

I saw Dr. Carson say this and thought – hey – where have I heard that before??

It was way back in 2012 that ABC News, NY Daily News, HuffPo, CBS and the rest of them blasted out headlines like; “Joe the Plumber’ Ties the Holocaust to Gun Control” because of a video; where I pointed out that:

“In 1911 Turkey established gun control; from 1915 to 1917 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated, (while pulverizing fruits and vegetables with blasts from my shotgun!) In 1939 Germany established gun control; from 1939 to 1945 6 million Jews, 7 million others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.”

Nice to see Dr. Carson is not backing off any more than I did. The voting public are clearly behind the argument in general – that disarming the populace has led to bad things in the past – but not everyone, of course – say the tiny percentage of Jews could not possibly have done any serious damage to the Third Reich, even with arms.

Okay, fair point – I’m not saying the relatively small number of Jews would have defeated the Nazis, nor have I ever. However I do agree with Dr. Carson that most Germans did not believe in what Hitler was doing.

And furthermore, I truly believe that if you were to ask any Holocaust survivor left if given the chance to have the right to own a gun as people were being machine-gunned, tortured, packed into trains, having experimental surgery performed on them or gassed to death by the millions – would they have jumped at the chance to at least fight back?

Of course in the beginning, who would know? Except anyone familiar with the book; “Dreams of My Father” “Mein Kampf,” which pretty much laid out the whole plan – or at worst, some illustrative intentions.

Ask me and I say I’ll take my chances WITH the right to own the gun. In fact, the minute the crap ever starts to hit the fan, let’s be honest – are you gonna sit there and not take a few Nazis or contemporary Fascists with you? I am. It’s called “dignity” – and there is no dignity being naked in the middle of a gas chamber, having Islamo-Nazis beheading people or gang-raping you. (Yes, that’s happened here in the US, you Fascist-deniers).

Being subjugated to any Centralized government, no matter what form that takes isn’t worth it. Liberty or Death. That’s it.

But what exactly DID happen back then?

As reported by Michael Becker at JFA.com

Kitty Werthmann lived in Austria when Hitler marched his troops in and took over. She sees parallels between growing up in Austria and living in America for the last seven years.

Those who forget – or don’t learn – history are doomed to repeat it.

Hitler came to power in the depth of the depression, Obama came to power, in part, as the result of a deep recession. In addition,

  • Hitler socialized health care, he went one step further than Obama, it was free for everyone in Germany.
  • Hitler managed to confiscate virtually every gun in Germany, Obama would if he could.
  • Taxes in Germany were dramatically increased, on the rich, of course.
  • Business regulations were increased to the point where small businesses were forced to shut down because of the cost of compliance.
  • Food stamps and nearly free university education became one of the hallmarks of Hitler’s regime.
  • School curriculum was directed by the government. Common Core anyone?

We’re not accusing Obama of being a Nazi. We are pointing out that the Nazism and Obama’s (and the Democratic Party’s) political roots come from the same tree, socialism. Like today’s Democrats, Hitler was a far left politician, not a “conservative” like progressives try to paint him.

Socialism is a failed ism. It’s true believers like to point to Europe as a winning recipe for socialism, but as we type it’s crumbling there too. For exactly the reason Margaret Thatcher rightly noted: The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

Read more at http://joeforamerica.com/2015/06/obama-get-ideas-holocaust-survivor-thinks-knows/

The Toldeo Blade interviewed me about my stance back then, just so you know:

“All I said was gun control was implemented, and then governments proceeded to violate human rights,” Wurzelbacher said, according to the Toledo Blade. “Nowhere did I mention the Holocaust or was I even talking about it.”

But who cares what myself or Dr. Carson thinks compared to someone who has a real-life, erie story about Barack Obama and Adolph Hitler? Someone who was there when it all came down. Her story is not for the faint of heart:

Excerpts from “Austria, 1938 Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away”:

by survivor Kitty Werthmann

“… I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide – 98% of the vote. I’ve never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force…

In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed… We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group — Jewish or otherwise.

I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler’s picture hanging next to a Nazi flag… Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum.

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LEFT: Laura Bush speaking at Georgetown in 2006 with “IHS” and cross visible; CENTER: photo close-up; photo RIGHT shows “IHS” and cross covered for Obama’s speech. Not the first, nor the last time Obama Admin has insisted Christian or religious symbols not be part of his backgrounds.

They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination.

In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. When the mothers were forced to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers .. under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna. After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone… There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries… our tax rates went up to 80% of our income.

“Mercy Killing” was redefined..

The Final Steps – Gun Laws
Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterward, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

Read the entire letter HERE:

Lest you think the Communists were any better than Hitler, read the final paragraph and put yourself there if you can:

“After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria. Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn’t destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for six weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn’t, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.

After America, there is no place to go.”

— Kitty Werthmann

Oh, by the way; “Never again.”

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