Why are all Mass Murderers Democrats?

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Well, most of them anyway: Now you can add Elliot Rodger – the next in a long line of mass murderers with mass murder on their minds:

THE LIST:
– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg­istered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu­py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.

– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat


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– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
dem mass murder– Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
– Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…

Why are no conservative NRA members involved in mass shootings?

Curious, isn’t it? So I was thinking, maybe we should just make it illegal for Democrats to buy guns?

Like or Friend me on Facebook – if you dare. No one turned away.

Problem solved. I think that is a fair solution. After all. it is for the children too.

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Rodney Lee Conover

Rodney Lee Conover is a writer, producer and Senior Editor at JoeForAmerica.com

  • tricknologist

    You left out Colin Ferguson, the NY subway shooter.

  • Carol Hadenough

    LOVE IT…!!! What a great piece of information! Same for the post below, by Graywolf12!

  • cactusbob

    Since Boehner is no longer in the Congress, you’ll have to ask Paul Ryan. Ryan should be removed from the House by Cantorizing him. Donate to and vote for Paul Nehlen, and get the stumbling block out.

  • cactusbob

    I would hazard a guess and say that it is because serial killers gravitate toward a political party that is lax on law enforcement, encourages doing what you feel like doing, has an obvious low moral expectation, and doesn’t insist on telling the truth. That’s the Democrat Party to a tee.

  • jebor

    Amen to that, worthless just doesn’t come close.

  • jebor

    He made two tips to the Philippines, to learn how to make bombs, from muslims.

  • djpala

    That’s the answer then, Take all the guns away from the stinking communist ‘democraps’ !

  • Da_Jokah

    They’re not libtard democrats – they’re just a bunch of wacky cuckoo psycho retards!
    Some idiot just handed them a gun – and they went off and used it – smart move, dumbasses. Plain and simple!

  • James Tiko

    “The kids he killed were left wingers.” Yah cause we all know kids care about political parties. Another idiotic leftist.

    • DonGTonic

      Yea, really. Most kids couldn’t care less about politics and don’t and can’t identify with any political party. I know for myself, I didn’t care squat about polititics when I was a kid. Catching frogs, building forts, catching crayfish, riding minibikes is what interested me, not politics.

  • Terry Groff

    Ted Bundy was a registered Republican. Just read his wiki page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy

  • Adam Butler

    Oh, that myth again… Does anybody actually still believe it? Electing a man based solely on the color of his skin does not undo decades of racism… Especially since the very act itself is racist.

    • Femfelis

      It’s not a myth. The strategy worked. Back in the day, the South tended to be solidly Democratic. But they found they couldn’t tolerate the thought of civil rights, and what that would mean for the white hegemony. The South is now pretty “red” (not to be confused with Communist), you may have noticed. And if you’re suggesting that Barrack Obama was elected solely because of his skin color, I’m not sure what planet you live on. I’m a white sort of Southerner (I live in a border state) who gladly backed Obama for his intelligence, his vision for the country, and because I felt he was the best person for the job. It wasn’t his “race”. Science tells us that race is an artificial construct that isn’t backed up by DNA evidence. We are all one race. The sooner we start acting like it, the better.

      • James Tiko

        Sigh…the majority of Dixiecrats did not become Republicans, that is a lie. The Dixiecrats were a branch of the Democrat party, and most went back to the Democrats after they lost. The reason you lefties always say that is because the Dixiecrat presidential nominee turned Republican…25 years later…

      • cactusbob

        How’s that decision to back Obama workin’ for ya?

      • Adam Butler

        You do realize that you just quoted a strongly conservative line, right?

        “Science tells us that race is an artificial construct that isn’t backed
        up by DNA evidence. We are all one race. The sooner we start acting
        like it, the better.”

        No Democrat worth their salt would ever agree with that. It goes against everything they believe in: Identity politics, divide and conquer, separate but equal, affirmative action- all these ideas that leftists push are hinged upon the idea that humanity is divided into separate races and by consequence some are inherently superior and inferior to others.

        From a scientific point you’re correct, but since when have Democrats ever cared about that?

        As for the party switch conspiracy theory, that one is even easier to dispel than moon landing deniers: https://youtu.be/I3LqPedoxSk

        As for the south becoming red… Why is that bad? Shouldn’t we be happy they’re not as racist as they used to be and have switched over to more conservative values?

  • Aaron

    Nidal was registered through the Army as a democrat as they ask your views you are allowed to answer no comment or no party Affiliation’s but they asked me when I was in, just as they asked Nidal he promoted his views. To be fair some listed were far left Socialist and not democrat like Loghnar he read and pushed Mein Kampf on any one he knew. Since the difference between socialists and democrats is virtually non existent these days it’s no surprise. Though what is strange is that 94% of the shooters are on psych drugs that have effects that are worse than the psychoses these nuts suffered from. There were rightwing nuts blowing up abortion clinics in the 90s however the majority of conservatives came out strong against it, neighbors turned in friends for talking about it. This is not the case with liberal gun men most told friends or Facebook posts and no one did a thing to turn them in. Democrats turned to violence in Ferguson, Seattle WTO, Chicago, and LA. Violence murder and rape, theft, and assault. They are praised by our president, and other democrats. Then burns Oregon happens no one was threatened, harmed or assaulted and even though it’s protests with no property damage and is conducted with more class than occupy the same people who praised occupy and Ferguson are the same ass holes calling for the mass murder of the men holed up in Berns and calling them terrorists. The fact is democrats and socialists are two faced pricks who have high double standards. 89% of bombers and gunmen are democrats and socialists, or these day also Muslims, but when the minority comes through they throw the book at them. In fact Harvard did a study showing conservative defendants are treated more harshly by the courts 74% of the time. Odd how that works isn’t it.

  • Aaron

    First mass school shooting/bombing massacre was a Democrat in the 1921 bath school massacre. His name was Andrew Kehoe, schools were made gun free by Democrats and democrats are now the ones carrying out violent school attacks. Same thing with health care, they pushed Osama care, and now Hillary is complain about skyrocketing costs and blaming the biggest health increase in US history not on the Osama care but on conservatives for resisting it.

  • Scott Sauer

    He supposedly visited some Islamic terrorist in the Philippines prior to his Okl bombing. But it was covered up by the FBI. You would have to research this to get at the truth.

  • Vincent Ardolino

    This is consistent with the people I constantly run into and debate online. Always quick to try and deny your 2nd amendment rights but quick to get hostile, start throwing insults and show a complete lack of any self control. Always showing an emotional instability that you would want to keep guns away from.

  • James

    No he attended two schools, a Catholic school and a government school. But so what? Religion is a personal choice – unless you think you are only going to heaven because of the school your parents sent you to. And even if he is a muslim – which part of “no religious test” do you not understand?

  • James

    Repeating the same lies doesn’t change they are lies. Even Brietbart has admitted the James Holmes who worked on Obama’s campaign was a different guy (imagine that – two guys with the same name out of 300m in the US) and Nidal Hasan was registered to vote in Virginia and lived in Texas – neither of which allows partisan registration so he cannot be a registered Democrat.
    Not one of your claims has ever been substantiated – you adding to the lie by saying “all factual” does not change that.

  • James

    It is a hell of a lot longer than the true list as opposed to the lies in this article (eg calling a South Korean citizen who is ineligible to vote a registered Democrat and saying because someone with the same name as a shooter worked on the Obama campaign they must be the same person?

  • James

    Interesting point. Even if what these liars were saying was true – and that all those people were Democrats, you would still see that they were either far from the mainstream of liberal thought or their crimes had no basis in politics. The OKC bombers however were opposed to taxes and gun control – they were simply typical conservatives. They only differed from other mainstream conservatives in their actions. Yet somehow the left are supposed to take responsibility for the Columbine teenagers while the right get to completely ignore the hatred and violence of typical everyday conservatives.

  • James

    How exactly was Seung Hui Cho a registered Democrat when Virginia does not have partisan registration and he was not even an American citizen – and so not eligible to register to vote? When you are going to just make stuff up it is best to have some idea of reality so you do not wind up embarrassing yourself.
    As for the rest – Booth you are correct about – the rest clearly you just call anyone you don’t like a Democrat.

    • Graywolf12

      One does not have to be registered to be a democrat. Look up their association to organizations. I did not put Cho on the list. It came from another list that was added to my list. I copied and used the more extensive list. Still does not take from the fact that most mass killers are or lean left. Conservatives tend to be religious and respect that murder is a sin.

      • James

        Graywolf – not they do not. Some of the ones you list do, while others you omit do not, and others you list do not and you just lie about it

        • Graywolf12

          Ok, you google the mass shooters and see what you find.

          • James

            I have googled it. I found out you and others were lying by claiming a non US citizen was a “registered Democrat” and other false claims such that James Holmes was the same James Holmes that worked for Obama (he wasn’t but apparently the idea that 2 people out of 320 million could have the same name is just too much for the small minds of the hateful right to comprehend). I found this pile of nonsense by googling it – but also found that by going to sites a little more concerned with the truth than “Joe the Plumber” – a man who became famous by publicly lying – that this is all either cherry picking or just making stuff up. Mass shootings are generally a function of mental illness, not political ideology. When you cannot support an argument, and have been exposed for using falsehoods to try to do so, placing the burden on others to “google it” is absurd.

          • Graywolf12

            You are so set in not seeing any truth other than what you THINK is the truth there is no sense trying to help you see that truth. Good luck with that fatal disease , ignorance.

          • James

            Graywolf – you post describes you perfectly. You have made a patently absurd statement, and backed it up with lies. When you are exposed as a liar you call others ignorant.

          • James

            You lie, I point out it is a lie, and your response is that I am ignorant and determined not to see the truth? Ahh the twisted sense of logic of the extreme right wing.

          • Aaron

            Hateful right when most mass murders, shootings and rapes are by the left don’t make me laugh.

    • Aaron

      How was he well no not a democrat, but he supported and wrote about socialism something all you democrats seem to support and want about to vote for Bernie who supports the very system Cho supported in his many ramblings.

      • James

        Aaron – try to understand – it really isn’t that difficult. When someone makes a sweeping claim (all mass shooters are Democrats) and then gives an example as supporting evidence (that Cho was a REGISTERED Democrat)- and that example is shown to be a lie – on that basis that what it claims is not possible – well that is worth pointing out – and the argument is shown to be baseless.
        Rebutting the Cho situation is one of many responses – each showing this claim to be a bunch of baseless lies – coming back against one such response and arguing that “Ok it was a lie – but it is still a valid point” is simply pathetic.

  • James

    He has shown the long form birth certificate as well. And sure people born outside can get a certificate of live birth (which is a birth certificate – if you ask for a birth certificate that is what you get) but not one that lists their birth place as Honolulu. Your definition of a Natural born citizen is not found anywhere in law – and it goes against everything that is found in law – ie that there exists only two types of citizen – those who gain citizenship by virtue of birth (ie natural born citizens – what the words actually mean – not some contrived nonsense birthers made up when they lost every other argument) and naturalized citizens. Obama is the former.
    You lot humiliated yourselves losing this argument in 2008 and then for some reason sought more humiliation doing so again in 2012. It is over 60 years since Skinner and Pavlov proved even dumb animals can learn from their mistakes – why can’t birthers?

    • David in MA

      Believe what you will, he is fraud.
      Obama never showed a valid long form BC and he is not an American citizen.
      He is not a citizen of America by birth, but a citizen of Britain…..

      • James

        Oh – the “it is because I say it is, even though all the evidence says it isn’t” argument – the basis of many moronic right wing rants.
        Thank you for so eloquently demonstrating the point I was making.

  • misfit

    The dumb never stops with you. Bet your a big girl right?

    • lana ward

      You voted for the fly face terrorist Muslim, not me!!

  • misfit

    Poor child, your god was not king to you in the intelligence department was he?

  • James

    How exactly was Nidal Hasan a registered Democrat when he lived in Texas and before that Virginia – neither of which has partisan registration?
    How exactly was Seng Hui Cho a registered Democrat when he is not a citizen and so cannot register to vote?
    As for James Holmes – even Breitbart admitted that was not the same James Holmes who worked for Obama.

    Considering you are clearly lying about these three and offer no evidence to support any of your statements – why would anyone believe the others?

  • Jim McCormack

    In 1400 years since ISLM started, Muslims have slaughtered 240 MILLION people of all faiths. Where is the source for
    Christian atrocities near that size. Google Muslim slaughters since 642 AD.

    • jebor

      Over a hundred million dead, murdered by communism in the last century alone. TRUMP

  • Fred Chittenden

    IMHO, party affiliation is NOT what’s going on, but perhaps there’s a connection. These days kids are taught in socialist schools (otherwise known as the public school system — as well as some religions and some other excessively passionate groups) to be part of some happy collective. Many of these folks, without exposure a diversity of healthy individual influences, end up with a severely crippled individual identity.

    When such folks reach adulthood, their weak individual identities are easily tipped by one thing or another into the abyss…

  • John Willis

    really morons

  • John Willis

    more than 1 mans,,

  • John Willis

    hes on dope ,,dont listen to dopey the troll

  • John Willis

    i have as much faith in the voting system, as i do in democrats

  • David in MA

    Obama was born in Hawaii.
    prove it.

  • chemfun

    by your standards, neither is Ted Cruz!

    • David in MA

      By Constitutional standards Cruz, Jindal & Rubio ALL are not eligible to be president, in fact, if you check you will find Cruz was elected to the Senate while he was still a Canadian citizen, he claims to have renounced his Canadian citizenship and took American citizenship, BUT there has been no word he went thru the naturalization/immigration process and took the Oath to the Constitution as is required. I get very upset at all the idiots who have no idea what America’s laws are and their resulting statements.

      • chemfun

        i absolutely know what american law is and i know about Ted Cruz. I was pointing out to him that there is a Republican that was not born here running for President. But it’s ok, because laws only applied to Dems and poor people.

  • chemfun

    it was a Catholic school. Santo Fransiskus Asisi (St. Francis of Assisi) Catholic School. nice try Gomer Pyle.

  • chemfun

    I found it for them.

    • John Willis

      chemfun how appropriate,,chem fun as in lsd?

  • chemfun
  • Ednar

    Fwd: Sensible Gun Control

    This explains why there has been no attempt on Mr. Obama or his vice
    president!​

    ****In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the
    United States .

    ****In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of
    the United States who later died from the wound.

    ****In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy,
    President of the United States .

    ****In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald
    Ford, President of the United States .

    ****In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald
    Reagan, President of the United States .

    ****In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed
    22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

    ****In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15
    people in an Oklahoma post office.

    ****In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people
    at a GMAC office.

    ****In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed
    23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen, TX .

    ****In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed
    5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

    ****In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people
    at a church service.

    ****In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in
    a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US .

    ****In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7
    people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    ****In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed
    32 people in Virginia Tech.

    ****In 2010 a registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot
    Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    ****In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie
    theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    ****In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7
    people in Minneapolis.

    ****In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people
    in a school in Newtown, CT.

    ****As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy
    ship yard.

    Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

    Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative

    was involved in any of these shootings and murders.

    SOLUTION:

    It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

    …Best idea I’ve heard to date!

    • Jzar

      Except the examples above aren’t registered democrats. Lie much?

  • Matthew Landry

    And you can’t type or spell.

  • Matthew Landry

    Retard.

    • John Willis

      troll

  • Jonathan

    Andrew J. Stack was a republican not a democrat. Why do u think he flew into an IRS building? To kill as many democrats as possible. lol Either way the info on here is incorrect. Seung-hui cho wasn’t even a registered american. James J. Lee wasn’t even a murderer much less a mass murderer. He was a democrat but, he failed in his attempt to kill people. They should put real democratic mass murderers instead of making up stuff to lengthen the list Next, they’ll be saying Timothy Mcveigh was a registered democrat. Real liberal mass murderers: Bill Ayers, Amy Bishop, Jared Lee Loughner.

  • Jenelle Anderson

    Bizarre postulation grounded in possible mental instability. http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-u-s-history-fast-facts/ and McVeigh was a decorated military man, not a tree hugging liberal, so I think he falls into the hawkish “don’t tread on me” brigade, publishing only a “I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.”

  • Angie Wooten

    Most of these are not serial killers

  • jack

    McVeigh was a registered republican. The Norway shooter was a right winger. As, The nut that killed 3 non-Jews at a Jewish center. The Miller couple in Nevada were right wingers. The unabomber hated leftists. Google,”Since 9/11 more people in this country have been killed by right-wingers than by Jihadists.”

  • gooseman

    They “left” off one of the biggest mass murders in history. Adolph Hitler was not a Democrat but her was certainly leftist, which ideologically binds him to the Democrat party.

  • Robert Umberto Covello

    In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away.

    Later the same month, a Fort Walton Beach Florida man who thought the Obama administration was conspiring against him, shot and murdered two sheriff’s deputies.

    On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by a right-wing “pro- life” gun man who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.

    Eleven days later a right-wing white supremacist and Holocaust denier walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard. Two weeks later, three Neo-Nazis were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.

    On April 20, 2010 a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.

    Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, Sovereign citizens Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.

    On July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that he had planned to use to kill progressives. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck’s radio show.

    On Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jared Lee Loughner killed six people, including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19 pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon, AZ.

    On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old white supremacist and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.

    Dannie Baker, a former Republican campaign volunteer shot five Chilean immigrants in Florida in 2008. Those who knew him said he was obsessed with the fear that illegal immigrants were taking over the country.
    All were Republicans. And I could go on and on and on and on. So you see, youre obviously Republican biased statements are false. Anyone with half a brain and who thinks for themselves would hear such outlandish statements and think hmm, let me see if this is true. Especially considering we areusing machines capable of accessing all of mankinds knowledge. Then you would see theres mass shooters of all walks of life and age and politicial affiliation.
    And you people bitch and cry about your 2nd amendment rights but you’ll have no problem banning other people from having guns.
    Joe says its not about left or right, it’s about right or wrong. Yet he is obviously all about the right.
    Let’s see how long it takes him to delete this comment. Wouldnt want your followers to know any actual facts.

  • Guest

    Awww they deleted my comment. Can’t have anyone questions all these lies. Allow me to post again.

    On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, who hated Democrats, liberals, African Americans and homosexuals, using a Remington Model 48 12-gauge shotgun, murdered two people and injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN.

    The day after Obama’s inauguration, white supremacist Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that he was fighting the extinction of the white race.

    A little over a month later, Dannie Baker, a former Republican campaign volunteer shot five Chilean immigrants in Florida. Those who knew him said he was obsessed with the fear that illegal immigrants were taking over the country.

    July 18, 1984 James Oliver Huberty, who told his wife he hated “children, Mexicans and the United States” opened fire inside the McDonald’s Restaurant in San Ysidro, CA using a Browning P-35 Hi-Power 9mm pistol, Winchester 1200 pump-action 12-gauge shotgun, and an Israeli Military Industries 9mm Carbine (Uzi) – all legally acquired. He killed 21 and injured 19 before he was shot dead by police.

    In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away.

    Later the same month, a Fort Walton Beach Florida man who thought the Obama administration was conspiring against him, shot and murdered two sheriff’s deputies.

    On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by a right-wing “pro- life” gun man who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.

    Eleven days later a right-wing white supremacist and Holocaust denier walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard. Two weeks later, three Neo-Nazis were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.

    On April 20, 2010 a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.

    Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, Sovereign citizens Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.

    On July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that he had planned to use to kill progressives. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck’s radio show.

    On Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jared Lee Loughner killed six people, including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19 pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon, AZ.

    On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old white supremacist and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M) semi-automatic pistol.

    All were Republicans. I could go on and on and on as well.So you see, your point is moot and heavily biased. If anyone here had half a brain they would hear your outlandish statement and th

  • latxguy

    how about the gangsters kids in the city streets. Look at Chicago, New Orleans, LA, Phili, Cleveland Detroit, Houston and a long list to go.

  • CyberCassandra Libslayer

    Be fair. Timothy McVeigh was a right-wing nut job. Otherwise I agree with you.

  • Kim Hillstrom

    You retards are a special kind of stupid aren’t you? Funny that all of these ammosexual cretins committing mass murder are right wing nut republicans. Get over it. Your party has decended into madness and you are so stupid that you are actually following it into the abyss. Good riddance.

    • elmcqueen3

      Fact check: Every shooter of notoriety since John Wilkes Booth has been a Democrat or the offsping of Democratic parents…Or a stauch supporter of the Democratic party…Which leads one to the conclusion that mentally distrubed individuals who use guns to vent their frustrations or anger by killing innocent victims tend to be from the liberal progressive left…i.e…Democrats!…Not one shooter of notoriety during the last 150 years was found to be a registered Republican…Nor an NRA member…Nor a Conservative…Nor an Independent…Nor a Tea Party folk…Nor a Verteran…Nor an Eagle Scout…And definately not a responsible Gun Owner…All shooters of notoriety were and are “Democrats!”…Consensus: Democrats should never be allowed to own a firearm…Nor a sword or a machete…Nor a knife or a box cutter…Nor a baseball bat or a golf club…Nor a chain, a tire iron, a hammer, a screw driver, a wooden 2×4, a club or a big stick…These items are constantly being used to kill people by mentally deranged lunatics…Who proudly proclaim theselves as belonging to the political party that hates guns and violence!…”When will They ever Learn?”…Peter, Paul and Mary

  • Landshark

    On topic. Because the simple requirement to be a Dumbocrat is insanity and hypocrisy.

  • Ian Hayes

    How could Cho, a foreign national, be a registered Democrat? Klebold and Harris?- Really, the sins of the parents are going to be visited upon the sons, or at least when it makes political hay. The author picks and chooses his criminals in an effort to make it seem that all shooters are Liberals, yet this carefully selected list is still full of falsehoods.
    I’m all for stopping mass shooting, but conservatives claiming that all shooters are Democrats is about as effective as Democrats braying that the problem is lack of gun control. Of course, this won’t make me very popular with the conservative side since the truth doesn’t fit in with the narrative they’re trying to spin, nor will it earn me favor with the Libs since the truth doesn’t fit with theirs, either.

    • elmcqueen3

      “The Democrats are playing you for a political chump and if you vote for them, not only are you a CHUMP, you are a traitor to your own race!”…Malcolm X…He was killed 2 days later after making this statement…”When will They ever Learn?”…Peter, Paul and Mary

  • reasonableargument

    Does it really not matter that these assertions are completely unfounded? You just make things up out of whole cloth, and then your rabid readership laps them up unquestioningly? That’s so sad.

  • Patrick

    Amusing..thats why the Nevada shooter was a practicing certifiable right wing nutter…even running a self-help website for right-wing nutters.
    Joe… as irrelevant as you always were.

  • Justin

    Seung-Hui Cho was an alien, and if you will lie about a shooting that left 33 dead, I have no reason to trust you.

  • Helen Wheels

    As usual, Joe the Not Plumber makes up whatever he wants, kinda like FauxNoise. Sad.

  • Mick

    All lies. Just on example: Adam Lanza’s mother was a gun nut, registered Republican, and “Doomsday Prepper,” according to her own family:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/adam-lanzas-mother-was-an-avid-gun-collector.html

  • Mick

    Continuing to spread information known to be false is a time-honored fascist tactic. Mussolini bragged about doing it, Himmler perfected it, and “Joe the Plumber” – who is not named Joe and is not a plumber – carries on the tradition.

    If you’re saying things you *know* aren’t true, you’re the problem. Congrats, “Joe” – you’re in good company.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/18/gop-house-candidate-claims-99-percent-mass-shooters-democrats.html

  • lateda

    And in the end, this one will not be standing.

  • sh68137

    In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

    In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.

    In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States….

    In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

    In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

    In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

    In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

    In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

    In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.

    In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas
    laboratory.

    In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

    In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

    In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

    In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

    Allegedly: In 2012 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.

    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

    One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

    No NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives were involved.

    SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

    • Mick

      Just a cut and pasted pack of lies made up, originally, by right-wing radio host Roger Hedgecock, and added to over the years.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

      • Helen Wheels

        Teabaggers will believe anything. Now that they are shooting up the country and walking around with AK47s, it’s gonna be even harder for them to “prove” that lefties are the violent ones.

  • Patrick Lilley

    Has Joe the Plumber got kids? Family man? Is this his site? Sound to me as if he’s calling for war. Is he another blow hard that runs his mouth and ruins his country for money or is he really as stupid as he appears?

    • prezOworst

      Seems all the blowing is by you.

    • Femfelis

      He’s trying to get into politics.

  • Les Ismore

    How come 87% of all mass-murderers are NRA members?

    • prezOworst

      Completely bs.

  • David William Reid

    Just ban liberalism and get rid of the Democrat party. We are talking about saving lives here right?

    • Femfelis

      And your “solution” is to kill the First Amendment? Brilliant!

  • skrewdisqus

    You left off the cop killer in San Bernardino County, the ex-LAPD officer (and I’m not going to honor him by posting his name). The one who got into a shoot with San Bernardino County Sheriff’s and killed one after killing a cop in Riverside and taking hostages in Big Bear, Ca. Yep…demonkrap and illegal gun dealer.

  • pete0097

    What about the loser in Conn? It is hard to believe there is anyone there that is conservative.

  • Clint Cooper

    George Bush is responsible for over 5,000 American deaths and over 1 million Iraqis. I guess you can’t count that high.

    • prezOworst

      Muslim are not responsible. …typical Libs need a victim.

  • Buro Cratz
  • The Hooded Vigilante
  • Undecider

    Republicans (of late) like to specialize in doing their mass killings overseas.

    • Mark Flaming

      Democrats like to specialize in doing their mass killings inside the USA. Preferably at those nice, safe, Gun Free Zones.
      Earwax anyone?

  • ThoughtProvoking

    As for Eliot Rodger he was disenchanted because as a liberal he was promised free Hope and ‘Tang.

  • jondarmes

    That’s easy, liberalism is a mental disorder with a foundation in hate, mass murdering is a mental disorder founded in hate, democrats are liberals that hate the country as founded and common decency in general, and there we are.

    • reasonableargument

      Conveniently, one of the beautiful things about liberalism is that it supports your right to keep and express such mind-bogglingly unfounded ideas as that one.

  • David in MA

    Because all democrats (liberals, socialists, communists, Marxists are democrats) are mentally ill.
    Who else would continually try to impose a failed system, over & over, knowing it always fails?

    • Femfelis

      Sounds to me like a reference to trickle down economics.

  • jack reacher

    Oswald did not kill JFK. He was a fall guy for the international globalists who were pissed off because Kennedy was going to pull us out of Nam and end the Federal Reserve. He had already started printing Treasury notes again, not that phony Federal Reserve funny money.

  • Radknight

    It seems that their ideology, emotions and influence gets them into such a irrational tizzy that they feel violence is the only way to make people see. Look at these people that feel the need to scream and yell and ridicule in order to *try* to get their point across. The dots don’t quite connect for them and everybody else just “doesn’t get it”.

    • Femfelis

      I must admit I’m confused. Your post could refer to folks on the right, or to their views of folks on the Left. In order to promote clarity, could you please specify to whom “their” and “them” refer?

      • Radknight

        First, read the article. From there, It’s not so hard to figure out if you put a tiny bit of thought or effort into it. Sorry but I won’t walk you through it.

      • Radknight

        Maybe read the article then the post. I’m sure you’ll eventually work it out.

  • Wm. Michael Mott

    Here is my list… All factual.

    Santa Barbara shooter Elliot Rodger: Son of gun-control advocate Democrat Peter Rodger
    Columbine shooters: Sons of politically-active Democrats
    Adam Lanza: Democrat son of progressive Democrats
    Christopher Dorner: Registered Democrat, Obama supporter
    Jared Loughner: Registered Democrat, progressive
    Nidal Hasan: Registered Democrat, Muslim extremist
    Aaron Alexis: Democrat, Obama supporter
    James Holmes: Progressive Democrat, Obama supporter/campaigner
    Floyd Corkins: Far-Left Progressive Democrat, Obama supporter
    Karl Pierson: self-described “socialist”
    Ben Freeman: Democrat
    Chancey Allen Luna, James Francis Edwards Jr., and Michael Dewayne Jones: Democrats or sons of Democrats
    Inner-City shooters: invariably Democrats
    All carjackers, home invaders, stick-up morons, etc. etc. etc.: Democrats
    Ariel Castro: registered Democrat
    O.J. Simpson: registered Democrat
    The Tsarnaev Brothers: Democrats and wards of the welfare state

    For those who take offense and scream “What about George Zimmerman?” Well… Registered Democrat and campaign worker for Obama.

    The only “weapon control” we need is to make them impossible for Leftists to obtain.

  • Harold Rehling

    Simple answer, Joe. It’s Because the leftist ideology is fundamentally based on identity politics and class warfare (not necessarily “economic” class, though) so it’s quite naturally going to not only attract the angry, irresponsible, anti-social type but even exacerbate the anger, irresponsibility, and anti-social tendencies.

  • C. Howell

    Except for all these:

    On Aug. 10, 1999 WHITE SUPREMACIST
    Buford O. Furrow, Jr., fired 70 rounds with an Uzi-type submachine-gun
    inside the lobby of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, CA
    wounding three children, a teenage counselor and an office worker. He
    then carjacked a woman’s Toyota at gunpoint, dumped it behind a motel
    and murdered US Postal Worker Joseph Santos with a Glock 9mm handgun.

    On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, WHO HATED DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS, AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HOMOSEXUALS,
    using a Remington Model 48 12-guage shotgun, murdered two people and
    injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist
    Church in Knoxville, TN.

    The day after Obama’s inauguration, WHITE SUPREMACIST
    Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal
    was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When
    questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled
    hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that “HE WAS FIGHTING THE EXTINCTION OF THE WHITE RACE” .

    A little over a month later, Donnie Baker, A FORMER REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER shot seven Chilean immigrants in Florida. THOSE WHO KNEW HIM SAID HE WAS OBSESSED WITH THE FEAR THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WERE TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY.

    In
    April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh,
    shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance
    call. HE THOUGHT THAT OBAMA WAS PART OF A
    GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY TO SEIZE ALL GUNS, AND HE FEARED THE GOVERNMENT
    WOULD TAKE HIS GUNS AWAY.

    Later the same month, A FORT WALTON BEACH FLORIDA MAN WHO THOUGHT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WAS CONSPIRING AGAINST HIM, shot and murdered two sheriff’s deputies.

    On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by A RIGHT-WING “PRO-LIFE” GUNMAN who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.

    Eleven days later A RIGHT-WING WHITE SUPREMACIST AND HOLOCAUST DENIER walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard.

    Two weeks later, three NEO-NAZIS were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.

    On April 20, 2010 A MEMBER OF THE SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MOVEMENT was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.

    Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, SOVEREIGN CITIZENS
    Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves
    were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.

    On
    July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by
    police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that HE HAD PLANNED TO USE TO KILL PROGRESSIVES. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck’s radio show.

    On
    Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jarold Lee Laughner killed six people,
    including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others,
    including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19
    pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon,
    AZ.

    On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old WHITE SUPREMACIST
    and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others
    inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M)
    semi-automatic pistol.

  • Joe Mosley

    We need GOD back in our government.Obama is the Anti-Christ.He is determined to convert America to Islam.

    • Delusional Prophet

      “god” was never in our government.

  • tonya

    They are led by demons.

    • Femfelis

      Thank you for this trip back to the good ol’ days of medieval Europe. Auto da fe, anyone?

  • foxxybey

    Easy, they can’t get their socialist ways so like the Arabs in Israel they revert to violence to make their stupid, dumb and blind statements communist is waiting.

  • Guest

    Which one of you right wing fools keeps messing with my comments? Huh? HUH?

  • Texas Belle

    Because all liberals are mentally unbalanced.

    • Liberal Dawg

      That’s so asinine.

      • ThoughtProvoking

        do you always upvote your own comments?

  • ourzoo10

    TROLL ALERT!!

    • Liberal Dawg

      Oh, hai

  • EnuffBull

    The original claim was made by right-wing radio host
    Roger Hedgecock, who proclaimed, without evidence or sources, that the
    five worst mass shootings in U.S. History were committed by “registered
    Democrats”. The shooters he referenced to make his false claim were Fort
    Hood shooter Nidal Hassan, VA Tech killer Seung-Hui Cho, Aurora Theater
    shooter James Holmes, Sandy Hook mass killer Adam Lanza, and Columbine
    shooters Dylan Klebold and EricHarris. Some versions of the meme
    incorporate more recent mass shooters or add Jared Loughner, the
    deranged killer who shot Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords at a
    Tucson-area meet and greet.

    Of course, not a single one of the shooters
    mentioned has any demonstrated connection to the Democratic Party.
    Seung-Hui Cho was a resident alien, and therefore was not even
    registered to vote. Nidal Hassan was a legal resident of Virginia living
    in Texas. Neither state has partisan voter registration, so while it is
    impossible to determine how he voted if he voted, we do know that he
    could not register as a Democrat in either the state of Texas or
    Virginia. Klebold and Harris where too young to vote and while some
    arguments acknowledge that by arguing instead that their parents were
    Democrats, that claim is also unsubstantiated. The claim that Adam Lanza
    was a Democrat is also unsubstantiated.

  • EnuffBull

    The acts below are instances of right-wing violence that are
    unequivocally committed by people who are openly hostile to liberalism. WHILE THIS DOES NOT MEAN THESE KILLERS ARE REPUBLICANS, IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT THEY ARE RIGHT-WINGERS and that they have far more in common with…Alex Jones and the other
    gun-toting conspiracy nuts on the right than with any evils associated
    with the Democratic Party or liberalism….

    On Aug. 10, 1999 WHITE SUPREMACIST Buford O. Furrow, Jr., fired 70 rounds with an Uzi-type submachine-gun
    inside the lobby of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, CA
    wounding three children, a teenage counselor and an office worker. He
    then carjacked a woman’s Toyota at gunpoint, dumped it behind a motel
    and murdered US Postal Worker Joseph Santos with a Glock 9mm handgun.

    On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, WHO HATED DEMOCRATS, LIBERALS, AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HOMOSEXUALS,
    using a Remington Model 48 12-guage shotgun, murdered two people and
    injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist
    Church in Knoxville, TN.

    The day after Obama’s inauguration, WHITE SUPREMACIST
    Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal
    was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When
    questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled
    hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that “HE WAS FIGHTING THE EXTINCTION OF THE WHITE RACE” .

    A little over a month later, Donnie Baker, A FORMER REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER shot seven Chilean immigrants in Florida. THOSE WHO KNEW HIM SAID HE WAS OBSESSED WITH THE FEAR THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WERE TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY.

    In
    April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh,
    shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance
    call. HE THOUGHT THAT OBAMA WAS PART OF A
    GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY TO SEIZE ALL GUNS, AND HE FEARED THE GOVERNMENT
    WOULD TAKE HIS GUNS AWAY.

    Later the same month, A FORT WALTON BEACH FLORIDA MAN WHO THOUGHT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WAS CONSPIRING AGAINST HIM, shot and murdered two sheriff’s deputies.

    On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by A RIGHT-WING “PRO-LIFE” GUNMAN who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.

    Eleven days later A RIGHT-WING WHITE SUPREMACIST AND HOLOCAUST DENIER walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard.

    Two weeks later, three NEO-NAZIS were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.

    On April 20, 2010 A MEMBER OF THE SOVEREIGN CITIZEN MOVEMENT was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.

    Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, SOVEREIGN CITIZENS
    Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves
    were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.

    On
    July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by
    police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that HE HAD PLANNED TO USE TO KILL PROGRESSIVES. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck’s radio show.

    On
    Jan. 8, 2011 22-year old Jarold Lee Laughner killed six people,
    including a judge and a nine-year old child, and wounded 13 others,
    including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), using a 9mm Glock 19
    pistol during a public meeting in a supermarket parking lot near Tuscon,
    AZ.

    On Aug. 5, 2012 Wade Michael Page, a 40-year old WHITE SUPREMACIST
    and U.S. Army veteran murdered six people and wounded four others
    inside a Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, WI with a Springfield XD(M)
    semi-automatic pistol.

  • Lou

    Instead of gun control,we should ban left wing democratic kooks. They feel that the “world owes them”,and when things don’t go the way they want it’s time for others to pay the price.

    • Ban Goldacre

      You are SO right! Like, ban all the kooks and appoint a dictator and cut the faces of anyone that disagrees! SMASH democracy with a BIG hammer made of wood and tyranny.

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      Yes, because surely a U.S. of unified conservatives, with no political opposition, will only be good for itself and everyone else on the planet. Let’s take a trip down history lane and see where *any* single-party, uncontested political systems have worked out well for everyone concerned, shall we? I’ll wait while you try to think of some…

      Democracy be damned, right?

  • Solletico Ranting

    Maybe Liberals and Democrats are just better at killing people and the Republican Conservative psychopathic killers only manage to kill one or two people before they’re shot/arrested?

    • BringBackBeHeadings

      ted bundy was great at killing, so was the BTK killer, Ted kaczynski was pretty good at it and Tim McVeigh takes the cake

      • Solletico Ranting

        So you’re saying Republicans are better at killing people than Democrats?

        • Radknight

          They probably are because they tend to be more rational and less emotional so naturally their aim is better. 😉

      • Solletico Ranting

        Yeah you’re right actually. Republicans are much better mass killers.

    • Ban Goldacre

      You can take a horse to water but you can not use water from the horse.

  • Douglas Nicholson

    The answer to the question posed by this article is simple: Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    • Ban Goldacre

      You mean religion.

      • Solletico Ranting

        a religious disorder or a mental religion?

        • Ban Goldacre

          Around 55% the former and 72% the latter. Approximately.

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      I trust that you’re a licensed psychologist who has conducted an extensive study on the matter and can present evidence to the claim that liberalism is a mental disorder, therefore all liberals are mentally unhealthy?

      I’ll wait for the credentials and data…

      • Liberal Dawg

        He has none. He doesn’t even have an avatar, dude.

  • minni

    most liberals are democrats, its a menal disorder. some are communist and they do not have that little bell that tells them this is wrong, cause they really do not care.

    • Ban Goldacre

      When you say “menal” did you mean renal?

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      I’ve known a lot of liberals but have never once, in all my life, met an actual communist.

  • bobvelon

    Why do Democrats do mass murders? It is because they are all menta misfits andl malcontents… Would be nice to outlaw the Democratic party…

    • Ban Goldacre

      Bob you are a superb genius.

  • hora

    A REASON ARE TO SIMPLE, BEFORE CALL MENTAL ILL OR CRAZY NOW CALL DEM LIBERALS.

  • Shrdlu42

          Probably because they aren’t.

  • BringBackBeHeadings

    hey moron — what about these? do they not count?

    Theodore Kaczynski — hated the left

    ted bunDy worked for Republicans —

    George Bush killed 500k in Iraq

    Tim McVeigh

    Gary Ridgway

    Dennis Rade – dog catcher — republican

    • Shrdlu42

            Shh, don’t confuse him with facts. His little brain can’t handle it.

      • Juggy Brodleteen

        Shh, don’t provide facts, use insults and name-calling instead.

    • Moss500

      Short list. And, Joe didn’t even include Obama.

  • brownsfan51

    The premise of this post is not true and has been debunked many times. There have been many mass shooters who were white supremacist, anti-Semite, anti-Jew, anti-government, etc. Here is an article telling the other side (and it does not even mention Timothy McVeigh, the white supremacist who blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City). http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth

    • Liberal Dawg

      Joe dislikes facts because of his dodgy plumbing.

    • Kevin Watson

      Mao Tse Tung. 35 Million.

  • Ole SC

    Because all Democrats are insane!! Liberalism is a serious Mental Disorder and you would have to be mentally deficient to be a (Democrat). If you think that I am wrong, name one Democrat that does not suffer from Narcissism, Sociopathic, Psychopathy or some other form of mental distress!!

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      Again, name calling as opposed to making a rational argument. I find it interesting that in an earlier response someone complained about how the Tea Party is vilified by the left and the media, as if to suggest that somehow the poor, gentle Tea Partiers are the victims in all of this political hysteria. But, I rarely see anything except automatic belligerence, name calling, and threats come from right as soon as someone dares to voice even a hint of opposition to their views. You and others like you help demonstrate this point.

      • Ole SC

        Excuse me Kid, but I am not a member of a Tea Party. This Country is in the pitiful condition because of Liberalism, meaning none of you immature, irresponsible dips don’t want to have any restraints on morals or I might say immoral and expect the rest of the population to accept the deviant personalities and let you simply destroy this once great Country. In order for you people to think wrong is right and bad is good is a clear sign of insanity and if you think we are going to stand silently by and not have an opinion is insane also. And I really don’t give a rat’s butt if your feelings get hurt, so put your big boy pants on an deal with it!!

        • Liberal Dawg

          Granpa died on road man. ON ROAD. Granma died in the truck. Is this what you want? You want old folks dyin’ on road?

          • Ole SC

            since I’m one of them, what would think sonny boy!!

  • Dodged5

    All the mass murderers are Liberal Democrat, Socialist, Progresives because they have never learned how to deal with reality. Just listen to any of them speak their drivel and you instantly know they are from La la Land .

    • FriendofThom

      Don’t forget rightwing nut mass murderers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

    • Liberal Dawg

      Hai dawg

  • Diniv

    Well that’s a complete list of all mass murderers. I for one am convinced by this well thought through article. Incidentally would you ever change your vote and vote democrat, if you thought the policies made more sense to you as a person?

    • cmq cmq

      you clearly have not got the hang of trolling have you?

      • Ban Goldacre

        Hello! Is your van still for sale?

        • cmq cmq

          aye

          • Ban Goldacre

            How much and does it still have the go liberal stripes and muppet restrainers?

  • Pissed Off American

    Here’s a novel idea… Since the democraps are doing all the killing AND they want the 2nd Amendment abolished, why don’t we just make it illegal for “democraps” to own guns? That would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. as the ole cliché goes. Better yet, lets just take away anything sharp or dangerous from them.

    • Femfelis

      How do you suppose the NRA and the gun corporations would feel if your plan were followed and they lost all the revenue they might well have had from selling to those pesky “democraps”? Wouldn’t making guns illegal for democrats be a violation of their second amendment rights? Or do you truly hold that these rights only apply to folks who believe exactly as you do? Doesn’t that make you wannabe tyrants?

  • FredC1968

    I didn’t know the OKC Bombers where liberals.

    • BringBackBeHeadings

      of course they weren’t but they dont count

      • Femfelis

        Yup. Posse Comitatus/Sovereign Citizens and such automatically get a pass if they kill a bunch of folks, ’cause they’re patriots whose hearts are in the right place. And I do mean “right”…

  • R. Shackelford

    That is an impressive list, and you may be onto something, here. I’d like to see the statistics, not just a list of examples. What percentage of mass murderers were liberal democrats? I could probably come up with a list consisting only of Republicans, so the list really doesn’t prove your point, by itself.

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      We would need to see a FULL list of every American citizen (which takes Cho off the list) that has ever committed mass murder, and then see the PROOF that they were all registered Democrats. Since they all weren’t, this is impossible, which renders the entire claim that “All mass murderers are Democrats” patently false.

  • James Ebersold

    There were 62 instances of mass shootings since 1982-2012. This list plus the one someone mentions below had a total of a about 15 people on them some from 2013 and 2014. Does that mean the other 47 were republicans/conservatives? I can’t speak to their politics and nor do I really care. I do know that overall they were pretty crazy. Here are some just from 2010-2012 that were not mentioned in this posting:

    Sikh temple shooting: Oak Creek, Wisconsin: U.S. Army veteran Wade Michael Page, 40, 8/5/2012, opened fire in a Sikh gurdwara before he died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound during a shootout with police. Total injured and killed: 10 (BTW Sikhs originate in India and are not Arabs and are very peace loving people) He seems to be a neo nazi, not likely a democrat

    Seattle cafe shooting: Ian Stawicki, 40, 5/20/2012, gunned down four patrons at a cafe, and another person during a carjacking nearby, then shot himself as police closed in. (He died later that day in a Seattle hospital.) Total injured and killed: 7

    Oikos University killings: Oakland, California: One L. Goh, 43, 4/2/2012, a former student, opened
    fire in a nursing classroom. He fled the scene by car and was arrested nearby a few hours later. Total injured and killed: 10

    Su Jung Health Sauna shooting: Jeong Soo Paek, 59, 2/22/2012, returned to a Korean spa from which he’d been kicked out after an altercation. He gunned down two of his sisters and their husbands before committing suicide. Total injured and killed: 5

    Seal Beach shooting: Seal Beach, California: Scott Evans Dekraai, 42, 10/14/2011, opened fire inside a hair salon and was later arrested. Total injured and killed: 9

    IHOP shooting: Carson City, Nevada: Eduardo Sencion, 32, 9/6/2011, opened fire at an International House of Pancakes restaurant and later died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Total injured and killed: 12

    Hartford Beer Distributor shooting: Manchester, Connecticut: Omar S. Thornton, 34, 8/3/2010, shot up his Hartford Beer Distributor workplace after facing disciplinary issues, then committed suicide. Total injured and killed: 11

    If you want to see the article and list (page 2). Read here:

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map?page=1

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      Agreed, and the likelihood that everyone of these “mass murderers” was a “democrat” is pretty slim.

  • Glenn H

    I stated the other day that most all the preps of these mass killings were liberal Democrats and was called out on it but as usual without any evidence, just more liberal noise!

  • FriendofThom

    Timothy McVeigh.. a deranged, government hating rightwing nut, who killed more than all the others combined.

  • cathylovesyou

    All of these mass murder’s are insane, so being Democrats is something I don’t understand. I have noticed a dispoportion of Democrats seem like malcontents, and silly but they don’e really laugh or smile a lot. These days they don’t speak openly with Republicans like they will be struck down. If you mention Fox they shiver, I am amazed by these little nothings but it is true. It seems lke people in the Communist block acted before the wall came down. Yes I have been there before, during and after.
    In our Country the similar seems to be going on in Hollywood, you don’t lose your life but your job and career are in jeopardy

  • cmq cmq

    and while we’re about it, where are all the instances of right wingers carrying out shootings or violence? eg “In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away” Just for balance Joe 😉

  • cmq cmq

    lets just sweep registered libertarian and republican christian Timothy McVeigh under the carpet eh 😉

    • Tsk

      That was a bomb you moran. This is about shootings. What are you, some sort of commie pinko?

      • cmq cmq

        thanks tsk, you’ve certainly cleared that up for me! Lucky the OP wasnt about psychopathic mass murders!

      • Juggy Brodleteen

        The article claims “all mass murderers are Democrats.” It didn’t say just those mass murders who shoot people.

  • Bonnie Somer

    all done to end the 2nd amendment this is y they do it they feel that they need to make guns evil but guns don’t kill PEOPLE KILL W/GUNS KNIVES POISON FIRE THEIR CAR A HAMMER TNT ALL THESE THINGS KILL PEOPLE

  • lionstar

    They support abortion which is getting rid of people who are in your way. There is no respect for life. Also liberalism is incredibly self-centered. It’s all about how they feel. If they feel that your life should end, what’s to stop them since most liberals don’t believe in God either. Also liberals believe in Darwinism so it’s survival of the fittest and they also believe in limited resources so getting rid of you means more for them.

    • cmq cmq

      how exactly is a fetus getting in your way?

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      In general, the conservative viewpoint includes a strong pro gun rights position, as well as a strong pro capital punishment position. Since both are tools or methods for killing people, how exactly does your position show a respect for life? And the argument that most liberals don’t believe in God is simply untrue.

      Finally, by Darwinism I trust you’re referring to the Darwinian theory of evolution by natural selection. Since this is an established scientific fact, it (by itself) doesn’t have a political affiliation. It’s like saying, “Since liberals believe that yellow light has a wavelength of 570 nanometers, they also believe .” What on Earth does a scientific fact have to do with politics or opinion?

    • Femfelis

      I have even heard that you can tell a liberal by the horns and tail he or she is sporting on the body. It’s a sure sign that they aren’t part of God’s creation and so should be put to death.

      Really, now. If we’re such horrible–er–life forms, then why is it that y’all are so often the ones who sound like they’ve had an encounter with a rabid critter and didn’t get treatment in time?

  • ldenton

    Coincidentally, they were also mentally ill. Hmmm . . . .

  • tom cook

    Yep democrats get frustrated when they don’t get what they want and many of them go on shooting sprees. Lee Harvey was a hero to me though. He did the country a service, but should have gotten Johnson too and we wouldn’t be in the financial pickle we’re in with all the welfare garbage eating up our production like cockroaches, and I wouldn’t have had to go to Vietnam and depopulate the VC and NVA.

    • Juggy Brodleteen

      You celebrate someone that has murdered other human beings only because those human beings represent a political view that is different from your own. Can you NOT see how twisted that is?

  • cmjay

    This is what happens when you take GOD out of everything – there is no sense of RIGHT or WRONG. You don’t have to answer to a HIGHER POWER – if it feels good , do it.

    • Delusional Prophet

      “god” was never in anything, and if he was it was only around the Cold War.

      And no, morals and societal versions of right and wrong existed long before your ‘god’ and religion did.

  • George Smythson

    Not sure this is helpful–everyone of those folks was also mentally ill…

    • cmjay

      Because LIBERALISM is a MENTAL ILLNESS.

  • Dave from San Antonio

    Why are all mass murderers Democrats?
    Well…when you look at the basic ideology of the “left”(you know…the socialists, “commies”, “fascists” and “progressives”)…on just about everything “they” say is ‘right’ and scream that “we need” these changes and “things”…it’s not hard to see why we have these mass murderers.

    • cmq cmq

      aren’t communism and fascism inherently opposed ideologies? I would venture mutually exclusive. Still, you raise an interesting political paradigm; would you like to explain further?

      • Dave from San Antonio

        The only way to go about this without going into volumes…is to say this…The political out come of any of these ideologies…is tyranny of the first magnitude…regardless if it is socialism, fascism, communism or the “world” that progressives want to see. Tyranny is the end result.

  • paintinc56

    Liberalism is a mental illness, pure & simple. Spend any time around a dedicated, liberal political supporter & you will be floored at just how psychotic they really are. Leftist politics is all about CONTROL & POWER, do normal people want to CONTROL everything & everyone around them? Are they completely obsessed with FORCING others to agree with their ideology? That is why it is such a JOKE when they say “progressives” are “open minded”, they are nothing but closed minded, militant control freaks.

    • Femfelis

      I think perhaps you’re projecting. It’s not that uncommon, though.

  • rainier4311

    Do not forget Karl Pierson. Although, no one died, he put one in the hospital in a super critical condition. Because he was at school, he fired his weapon down the hallway, but the fact of the matter, he could have became a mass murderer. Arapahoe High School, among other schools will never forget these shootings and he was a socialist. So, while he does not fill the bill as a mass murderer, he does politically.

  • Don’t expect to see any of this in the left win propaganda machine media. Now, if these guys has been conservative Republicans, the media would make it their headlines.

    • Solletico Ranting

      Yeah the left wing propaganda media machine that’s owned by profit seeking capitalist corporations.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Probably because most Dems have no sound moral foundation, no sense of accountability, and a strong, albeit wrongful, sense of entitlement!

  • Les

    Just so you know:

    Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat
    Was recently listed as helping to set up our current Common Core Education system for the Department of Education. So there is a documented terrorist forming the foundation of our current education standards for our country.

    • BringBackBeHeadings

      but I thought GW Bush stated No child left behind and common core — his bro Jeb loves common core – they must be liberals!

  • elmcqueen3

    During the 1960’s the Democrat Party was hijacked and taken hostage by all the radical elements of our society..i.e…The left wing extremists…Today these radicals are now our elected politicians and representatives…The original Democrats such as those my parents found favor in and or who believed in the philosophy that the Democrat Party was the party of and for the working man and woman no longer exist…This ideology since the 1960’s has come to an abrupt end…As we have witnessed these extremists have even risen to become the “community organizers” of our time…Amongst other thoughts inducive to radicalism…These liberal and progressive groups have hailed “Political Correctness” as their trademark…Furthering their rallying cry for social justice and equality…While proclaiming “common sense” to all questionable issues as their arguing point…All this left wing “nonsense” has turned this country upside down…What is even more alarming is every shooter of notoriety since John Wilkes Booth as been a Democrat or an offspring of a Democrat…Or a follower of the Democratic Party…Which leads one to the conclusion that mentally disturbed individuals who use guns to vent theri frustrations or anger by killing innocent victims tend to be from the liberal left…i.e…Democrats…Not one shooter of notoriety during the last 150 years was found to be a registered Republican, or an NRA member…Nor a Conservative…Nor an Independent…Nor a Tea Party folk…Nor a Veteran…Nor an Eagle Scout…And definately not a responsible Gun Owner…All shooters of notoriety were and are mostly Democrats…Consensus: Democrats should not be allowed to own a firearm…Nor a sword or a machete…Nor a knife or a box cutter…Nor a baseball bat or a golf club…Nor a chain, a tire iron, a hammer, a screw driver, a wooden 2×4, a club or a big stick…These items are constantly being used to kill people by mentally deranged lunatics who proudly enjoy calling themselves “Democrats” and who vote accordingly!…”When will They ever Learn?”…Peter, Paul and Mary.

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      The 60’s liberal, anti-establishment types are now in charge of the government they hated then.

      • dontdoitagain

        I remember those people wandering around talking about the “establishment” moaning about “plastic people”. They nauseatingly claimed the moral high ground, chanting “Tune in, turn on, drop out” and another favorite “Question authority”. Where are they now? Where are all those people from blissful communes, who were “living off the land” and communing with nature? Ordering us around like the worst kind of despot.

        • Solletico Ranting

          The worst kind of democratically elected despot.

  • elmcqueen3

    Time after time we are bombarded by the left wing news media conglomerates who are privy to suggest that when ever there is a mass public shooting it undoubtedly had to be the doings of some right ring psycho nut…They say this without any evidence to their claims…Let us back track here…Fact check: Every public shooting recorded in the US since the 1950’s in which more than three people were killed by a shooter of notoriety have taken place where citizens were not allowed to carry firearms…These left wing liberal progressives have since admolished their prognosis because people are no longer believing in their lies which they themselves created in an attempt to discredit Tea Party folks, Republicans, The NRA, Conservatives and mainly responsible gun owners as those evil doers who are the contributors of such mass public shootings and gun violence…
    Liberal minded Democrats still have not accepted the fact the “Gun Free Zone” signs are not a deterrent to those who wish to commit harm onto others of innocence…Quite the contrary…As witnessed by the US Navy’s own Ship Yard shooting…To include Schools and Universities, and other public places which have posted these signs as an open invitation to any mad man intent on killing peiople knowing full well that no one inside the building is armed…These liberal minded do gooders have pronounced businesses and schools as “Gun Free” establishments thereby ripe for the taking by those who desire to take the lives of those we find dearest to our hearts…This ideology is akin to welcoming the fox to visit the local chicken coop expecting the fox will honor the request that he not harm any of the chickens once inside!…”When will They ever Learn?”…Peter, Paul and Mary.

  • elmcqueen3

    Add to this list…”The Democrats are playing you for a political chump and if you vote for them, not only are you a CHUMP, you are a traitor to your own race!”…Malcolm X…He was killed 2 days later after making this statement!

  • G03Maxine

    Now really … anyone who is an honest person has to concede that this is quite an impressive list that the author has cited to make his/her case!

    So … does that mean that I am now ready to affirm the title of this article? Well … almost, but not quite!

    I first want to be fair about all this … and give the liberals (aka ‘progressives’) an opportunity to make their case … by coming up with a similar list depicting that it’s really the Conservative Republicans who constitute the majority of mass murderers after all!

    ‘er … you’ll forgive me if I don’t hold my breath waiting? Right?

    • elmcqueen3

      “To anger a conservative…Tell him a lie…To anger a liberal…Tell him the truth!”…Author unknown.

    • BringBackBeHeadings

      Ted Bundy Tim McVeigh ted kaczynski the BTK killer GW Bush (500k in Iraq) Gary Ridgeway, Dennis Rader, Buford O. Furrow, Jr., U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson,, white supremacist Keith Luke, Jared Lee Loughner Wade Michael Page

      • BringBackBeHeadings

        all republicans —

  • observing57

    After July 1st, 2014, and H.R.2847, you just might want to carry that piece of protection to the grocery store with you, or where ever you go for that matter.

  • Ike Rye Avery-Thyme

    Seung-Hui Cho was a resident alien and non-citzen; he couldn’t vote you idiot

    • Ike Rye Avery-Thyme

      PS, the day before the Tucson shootings, Jared Loughner put out a Youtube video trashing the Federal Reserve and calling for a return of the Gold Standard.

      Anders Breivik, the Norway shooter, put out a Youtube video saying that Socialists, Muslims and “Cultural Marxists” were on the verge of taking over the world.

      Who else besides uber-teatards believes this garbage?

      • elmcqueen3

        Yep…And he considered his self to be one one them!

      • Bragar

        Yeah damnit! Pay no attention to the facts! All of these killers were simply misunderstood. Just because they all shared the same political ideology has nothing to do with why they’re killers!

        BS-add a liberal to ANY mix and you’ll get trash.

      • ProjectThor

        Facts: A pesky thing that gets in the way of BS…
        How can you look in the mirror with Obama’s sack covering your eyes?

      • cmq cmq

        except Anders Breivik wrote a manifesto, a cross emblazoning the cover, which mentions ‘christian’ over 2200 times; ‘christianity’ 229 times; conservative 690 times; ‘cultural conservative’ 289 times. I could go on but I invite you to analyse the manifesto http://info.publicintelligence.net/AndersBehringBreivikManifesto.pdf

    • elmcqueen3

      Maybe he did vote…Voter ID not required…It’s a Democratic thing!

    • cmjay

      ILLEGALS have been voting DEMOC RAT all the time .That’s why the LEFT are so aggressively opposed to VOTER I.D. Even the DEAD come alive and VOTE DEMOC RAT.

  • Zebowillis

    Because we have brain damaged liberals here I’m going to remind them all, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Ho Chi Min, The Khmer Rouge, Castro, and lastly every communist dictator in eastern Europe until the end of the cold war… at least 100 million murdered by left wing socialists. That’s not including the continuing genocide against black people being done everyday by Democrats through Planned Parenthood. So to my brain damaged murdering liberal friends, please stop murdering people.

    • Femfelis

      I hate to break it to you, Guest, but Hitler was about as far right as it’s possible to get.

  • banger377

    Don’t forget the Unibomber!

  • D. Guardian

    …you forgot the biggest murderer of them all, Margaret Sanger, the creator of eugenics through planned parenthood. Created specifically to get rid of all minorities, specially black people and defective children and adults, i.e. special needs people, just like the nazis which she admired intensely, did. By the way, she was and still is, a democrat socialist icon, admired by every democrat in the land…

  • Bob Jones

    And let’s not forget that all of these individuals were under psychiatric care, and were taking psychotropic drug cocktails for their depression, and/or inability to cope in life!!!

    • AUSTaxpayer

      We have a winner Ladies and Gentlemen. When did this rash of school shootings start? When we began to allow our kids to be medicated with psychotropic drugs during their formative years, for “behavioral problems”. The glazed look in their eyes is not the doing of some secret govt agenda, but rather the poor judgment of their parents who stand by and see their children’s creativity and social interaction crushed by these mind numbing drugs. Is it really any surprise that after taking these drugs for years, which are clearly labeled with an increased risk of violence, that many young people either commit suicide or these outrageous acts of violence against us all?

  • drattastic

    It’s because most progressives are right on the line between spoiled children and completely unstable.

  • Richard Diaz, Sr.

    If anyone should notice and I have for a long time and that is, the Democrats always seem to vote for everything that is wrong for the nation. It almost borders on evil. They have no problem with homosexuality, no problem with slaughtering healthy babies trying to be born, no problem with the evil of Islam spreading in our nation, no problem with all the Christian-hating organizations like the demonic Anti-Christian-Lunatic-Union plus two others. No problem with illegals pouring into our country along with the Islamists. No problem with a idiot saying he’s a girl and then allowed into girl’s bathroom like what there doing in brain-dead California. No problem in spending trillions of dollars for pet projects that allow them to stay in office to continue to do nothing but to enjoy their fine leather office chairs.

    • elmcqueen3

      Hey…Your spot on…It’s the Democratic way!

    • Diniv

      Ironically it’s “an” idiot.

      • Femfelis

        “Ironically”? And here I thought it was grammar! :-)

  • Tony Donaldson

    It must be something in the Kool-Aid.

    • elmcqueen3

      I just knew it…There has to be a justifiable reason…Thanks…Now we know what it is the liberal progressive Democrats enjoy drinking!

      • Femfelis

        I hate to ruin your day, but this librul prefers to drink tea (despite its relatively recent and unhappy association with a certain political faction funded by the Koch brothers).

        • elmcqueen3

          What brand of tea are you drinking?…George Soros gives more money to the Democratic cause than the Koch brothers could even imagine!…”When will They ever Learn?”…Peter, Paul and Mary

  • CrustyOldGeezer

    that is an incomplete list.

    EVERY school shooter has been leftist marxist, including the shooter at the Amish school.

    SLC Mall shooter was leftist.

    Pick any ‘gun free zone’ shooter’ and it will be a leftist

    • elmcqueen3

      Leftist also vote Democrat…We might as well call them for what they are…That being “CommieCRats!”

    • Dave from San Antonio

      COGeezer
      Why do you think they want so many “gun free zones”, hummmm?…;)

      • CrustyOldGeezer

        The same reason Santa Ana wanted to take all the guns away from the Texans in the Alamo.

  • Frankie Leon Edging

    Story is obviously biased and not completely true. A person could argue that Timothy McVeigh was a conservative extremist when he killed 168 people in Oklahoma. Interesting that the writer failed to mention the single biggest domestic mass murder other than 9/11 which was committed by someone not generally seen as a leftist.

    • elmcqueen3

      Some one who drives a get away car without any license plates attached surely does not play with a full deck of cards…A trademark of most liberals and progressive Democrats!

      • Femfelis

        Actually, McVeigh’s car had no license plate because he sympathized with the Sovereign Citizens and didn’t recognize a government’s right to require license plates on autos.

        • elmcqueen3

          Now we know…Stupid is as stupid does!

        • elmcqueen3

          Now we know…”Stupid is as Stupid does!”

  • Joseph Michael

    Joe might be on to something here! Analyse the word> “DEMOCRATS”>DEMON>RAT>CRAZY>DEMONIC=DEMON-CRAZY-RATS??? Hmmmmm

    • elmcqueen3

      I call em CommieCRats!

  • Busdriver Bill

    Well Joe, as you seem to believe all the tales told you by the media and the “official government sources,” I don’t really see why I’m even bothering with you.
    You are part of the problem, relating your “side” of this charade called party politics. Both parties are up to their necks in complicity in these so-called “terrorist false flag” events. Both parties are getting what they want – a militarized police and a terrified population. A dictatorship is next – as they confiscate the weapons from the honest citizens. Well Joe, when your role is no longer needed, you will be “toast.”

    • CrustyOldGeezer

      It’s not the politics of the instigators in government offices, but the shooters themselves.

      There is only ONE party with pretend differences.

    • elmcqueen3

      “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American Public believes is false!”…William Casey, Director CIA 1981-1987.

  • Taradacktyl

    Dennis Rader: Registered Republican. Named himself the “B.T.K” killer in his correspondence with police. The “B.T.K.” initials stood for his method of execution: Bind, Torture, Kill. Focused most of his hatred on single women, though he did slaughter an entire family, too. Civil servant and dog catcher. Deacon of his church.

    Ted Bundy: The classic Republican serial killer. Issues with women. Weird hair. Dead eyes. worked on the re-election campaign of Washington’s Republican Governor Dan Evans. Boilerplate.

    http://republicanidiots.tumblr.com/post/11603925702/top-10-republican-serial-killers-8-dennis

    Here’s some more! REAL Republican child molesters and serial killers:

    “1. Edison Misla Aldarondo: Republican legislator. Sentenced to thirteen years in prison for molestation of a nine-years-old.

    2. Randal David Ankeney: Republican activist. Arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces six charges related to getting a thirteen- year-old girl stoned, then having sex with her.

    3. Merrill Robert Barter: Republican County Commissioner. Pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact & assault on a teenage boy.

    4. Robert Bauman: Republican congressman & anti-gay activist. Charged with having sex with a sixteen-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

    5. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to thirty months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

    6. Louis Beres: Chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. Three of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were preteens.

    7. Howard L. Brooks: Republican legislative aide & advisor to a California assemblyman. Charged with molesting a twelve-year-old boy & possession of child porn.

    8. Andrew Buhr: Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, former Tom Delay aide. Charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a thirteen-year-old boy.

    9. Born Theodore Robert Cowell, this individual, under the name of Ted Bundy, would become synonymous with the term serial killer. ” Bundy worked on the re-election campaign of Washington’s Republican Governor Dan Evans. Evans was elected and he appointed Bundy to the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Committee. Bundy’s political future seemed secure, when in 1973 he became assistant to Ross Davis, chairman of the Washington State Republican Party. It was a good time in Bundy’s life. He had a girlfriend, his old girlfriend was once again in love with him, and his footing in the political arena was strong.”

    10. John Allen Burt: Republican anti-abortion activist. Convicted of sexually molesting a 15-year-old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran.

    11. Keola Childs: Republican county councilman. Pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.

    12. Kevin Coan: Republican St.Louis Election Board official. Arrested & charged with trying to buy sex from a fourteen-year-old girl whom he met on Internet.

    13. Dan Crane: Republican congressman. Married, father of 6, received a “100% Morality Rating” from Christian Voice. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. On July 20th, the House voted for censure of Crane, the first time that censure had been imposed for sexual misconduct.

    14. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a fifteen-year-old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women The barrage of Republican public figures having sex with minors is hard to keep track of without a program. Fortunately, The Sappho Manifesto has provided us with a program to keep track of them all.

    15. Peter Dibble: Republican legislator. Pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a thirteen- year-old girl.

    16. Richard A. Delgaudio: Republican fundraiser & Bush pioneer. Found guilty of child porn charges.

    17. Nicholas Elizondo: Director of the Young Republican Federation. Molested his six- year-old daughter & sentenced to six years in prison.

    18. Larry Dale Floyd: Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas, Precinct 2. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8 year old child & charged with 7seven related offences.

    19. Jack W. Gardner: Republican councilman. Convicted of molesting a thirteen year old girl, when the Republican party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot.

    20. Richard Gardner: Nevade state Representative. Admitted to molesting his 2 daughters.

    21. Matthew Glavin: President & CEO of Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in Clinton impeachment. Arrested multiple times for public indecency, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him.

    22. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing eight- and ten-year old girls.

    23. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a . “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

    24. Mark A. Grethen: Republican activist. Convicted of six counts of sex crimes involving children.

    25. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

    26. Mark Harris: Republican city councilman who is described as a “church goer”. Convicted of repeatedly having sex with an eleven- year-old girl & sentenced to twelve years in prison.

    27. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his twelve-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

    28. Howard Scott Heldreth: Anti-abortion activist who gained famed during the Shiavo media-circus. Convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002.

    29. Mike Hintz: First Assembly of God youth pastor, introduced by Bush on the campaign trail & promoted his policies. two months later, this married father of four turned himself into police, charged with sexual exploitation of a child.

    30. Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to forty years in prison for molesting an eight-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

    31. Paul Ingram: Republican party leader of Turston County, Washington. Pleaded guilty to 6 counts of raping his daughters & served fourteen years in federal prison.

    32. Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

    33. Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

    34. Jon Matthews: Republican talk show host in Houston. Indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under age seventeen.

    35. Nicholas Morency: Republican anti-abortion activist. Pleaded guilty to possessing child porn on his computer & offering a bounty to anyone who murders am abortion doctor.

    36. Jeffery Patti: Republican Committee Chairman. Arrested for distributing what experts call ” some of the most offensive material in the child porn world.”-a video clip of a five- year-old girl being raped.

    37. Mark Pazuhanich: Republican judge. Pleaded no contest to fondling a 10 year old girl & sentenced to 10 years probation.

    38. Dennis Rader, otherwise known as the BTK (Blind, Torture, Kill) Serial Killer was a savage homicidal maniiac wwho murdered his many victims according to a ritualized script. When he murdered his neighbor Marine Hedge, in 1985, he quite literally took her to the Wichita Christ Lutheran Church and photographed her dad body on the altar.. To the outside world, Rader gave all the outward appearances of normalcy. He was a Boy Scout Leader; he was a member of the above mentioned Christ Lutheran Church; he was a registered Republican. He was also considered a loving father and decent family man who never the less quoted the Bible at his sentencing hearing.

    39. Beverly Russell: County Chairman of Christian Coalition. Sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children.

    40. Larry Jack Schwarz: Republican parole board officer & former Colorado state representative. Fired after child porn was found in his possession.

    41. Tom Shortridge: Republican campaign consultant. Sentenced to 3 years probation for taking nude pictures of a fifteen- year-old girl.

    42. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a fifteen year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

    43. Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

    44. David Swartz: Republican County Commissioner. Pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of e;even, sentenced to 8 years in prison.

    45. Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a sixteen- year old girl when he was 28.

    46. Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

    47. Robin Vanerwall: Republican strategist & Citadel Military College grad, Director of Faith and Family Alliance, member of Ralph Reed’s inner circle who funneled money to/from Jack Abromoff to Reed. Convicted in Virginia on 5 counts of soliciting sex from boys & girls over the Internet.

    48. Keith Westmoreland: Tennessee State Representative. Arrested on 7 felony counts of lewd & lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 years old.

    49. Stephen White: Republican preacher. Arrested after allegedly offering $ 20 to a 14 year old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.”

    http://republicanfreeamerica.blogspot.com/2006/10/republican-pedophiles-deviants-and.html

    • bobnj1

      You may think that this list is impressive, but the point that was being discussed was mass murderers, not sexual molestors. You only have 2 GOP mass murderers shown, which proves the point that they are typically liberal!!. If the first poster actually started listing sexual molestors, this comments session would overflow.

      • ConnieJ

        Bill Clinton would top the list of sexual predators.

      • elmcqueen3

        Perhaps they were “Rino’s” and not really Republicans…Just saying!

    • drattastic

      If we started listing democrat perverts the internet would be full and have to shut down .

    • elmcqueen3

      Wow…This is quite a list…I don’t suppose you would have one in which Democrats are mentioned…Would you?

    • ProjectThor

      This “person” is a OFA troll or an ObamaBot… notice it doesn’t answer any of your comments. Just another POS to add to the growing Troll Database…

  • Taradacktyl

    Here’s one for you that’s a FACT:

    “POLL FINDS EIGHTY PERCENT OF SERIAL KILLERS VOTE REPUBLICAN

    March 14 2010

    Washington, D.C. – Ed Gein, Ted Bundy, David Berkowitz, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer. For decades those names, and the names of dozens of others, have stalked the American consciousness. Until recently when terrorists became the boogeymen of
    a nation, the serial killer was the monster of our nightmares, the demon of our subconscious, stalking us at every street corner, along every poorly lit alleyway. While the reality of serial killers was always far from the fantasy, the existence of real life monsters served to provide us with an outlet for deepest fears.

    Even in the face of global terrorism, there is something deeply disturbing about the serial killer that continues to disgust, repel, frighten, and fascinate beyond any kind of rational explanation. Perhaps it is the sheer abnormality of the serial killer, perhaps it is the fear that a person we know or love could be one, or perhaps it is just the sheer fascination we have with death, presaging and perhaps rationalizing our own eventual demise. Psychological questions aside, a new poll has indicated that the general population in the United States may have more in common with serial killers than previously believed, namely political leanings. A new poll of living and deceased serial killers has shown that upwards of 80 per cent lean towards conservative ideals and the majority routinely voted Republican, something becoming more and more common throughout the United States as a whole.

    “Across the board, serial killers are predominantly conservative in their political leanings. Gary Ridgeway, Dennis Rader, and probably the biggest name of all, Ted Bundy, were all active in the Republican Party at some level. Quizzing other killers showed the same thing, that the vast majority vote Republican,” said lead pollster David Quick. “We gain no analysis from this, it garners us no insight into the workings of the minds of conservative politicians or serial killers, but it is an overwhelming majority. Because serial killers come from diverse backgrounds and possess vastly different IQ’s they appear to have nothing in common save their conservative ideals and their desire to butcher people. It’s compelling data to be sure.”

    Reportedly, David Berkowitz has never voted, but actively supported independent Ross Perot in the 1992 Presidential election.

    “Eighty percent is extremely high considering that it’s roughly fifty-fifty in the general population. It could be the feeling of control, self-entitlement, or some other deep set psychological rationale but what it really means is opportunity, especially in today’s political climate,” said Scrape TV Political analyst Gabriel Kinsey. “The Republicans are certainly on a role and the conservative movement can absorb all comers. The momentum is certainly on their side and the best thing right now would be to bring everyone they can on board, even if they are of questionable moral and ethical standing. One thing the Republicans really need is stardom, celebrity, which helps penetrate the swing voters and something the party has been sorely lacking, which many of these people would bring in basketfuls.”

    One name often mentioned in Republican circles is Jeffrey Dahmer who officials believe would help bring in younger voters. The case for Dahmer is complicated by his death in 1994.

    “True, there aren’t all that many serial killers in the United States but like the Democratic Party has Hollywood, which is equally limited, by securing this support that minority could speak with a very loud voice and add significant weight to the growing power of conservatives in the country,” continued Kinsey. “Add to that the fact that there are up to 300 serial killers throughout the world right now, a big chunk of them undoubtedly in the U.S., and their support could help tilt 2012 in the right direction.”

    Sarah Palin, a leading contender for 2012, has reportedly made several visits to Dennis Rader, better known as BTK, at his prison cell in Kansas over the last few weeks. ”

    http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/pages-3/Poll-finds-eighty-percent-of-serial-killers-vote-Republican-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html#.U4UeLZT91ms

    • Zebowillis

      Taradacktyl: Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao. Ho Chi Min, Castro… all leftist, over 100 million murdered by leftists. You’re side is the murder winners! That’s a fact Jack.

      • Femfelis

        One more time, Guest. Hitler was as far to the right of the political spectrum as one can get.

    • elmcqueen3

      “80% of serial killers voted Republican”…I’d like to know how did this writer come up with this priviledged information…Or is this just another left wing approach to honest journalism?

      • cmjay

        The LEFT have a long list of FAIRY TALES.

    • ProjectThor

      Yeah… you can tell you like to eat lead paint chips….

  • Taradacktyl

    The question to ask is, “why do right winger feel the need to constantly repeat thoroughly-debunked lies?” Try pursuing a plumbing license rather than waste everyone’s time inflicting your sad, CONservative manias on this nation.

    “Seung-Hui Cho was a resident alien, and therefore was not even registered to vote. Nidal Hassan was a legal resident of Virginia living in Texas. Neither state has partisan voter registration, so while it is impossible to determine how he voted if he voted, we do know that he could not register as a Democrat in either the state of Texas or Virginia. Klebold and Harris where too young to vote and while some arguments acknowledge that by arguing instead that their parents were Democrats, that claim is also unsubstantiated. The claim that Adam Lanza was a Democrat is also unsubstantiated.

    The false allegation that James Holmes was a registered Democrat was based on Breitbart blogger Joel B. Pollack, who found voter registration records for a different James Holmes who was around the same age. Alex Jones’ Infowars and other right-wing websites then dutifully repeated the lie without verifying it. It was later determined that the Colorado Theater Shooter James Holmes was not registered to vote, and Breitbart. com offered this retraction:

    Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect’s likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.

    Of course, very few conservatives ever read the retraction.

    The point Kiehne seems to miss is that most mass shootings are not committed by political partisans of either major political party. Mass killings are rarely partisan political acts although the shooters may have strong ideological motives that may include political ideas. Occasionally, the shooter may even work on political campaigns like xenophobic former Republican campaign volunteer, Dannie Baker who shot five Chilean immigrants in 2009.

    However, even if a few mass shooters worked on political campaigns, it would still be absurd to assign their crimes to their respective political parties, since neither the Democrats nor the Republicans include mass shooting in their party platforms. Kiehne’s cheap attempt to smear Democrats as mass killers simply undermines his credibility as a congressional candidate. While reasonable people can disagree on which gun regulations are appropriate and which are unacceptable, claiming that almost all mass shootings are committed by Democrats is simply a blatant lie. Any politician arguing such unsubstantiated nonsense, should be considered unfit to vote into office.”

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/05/18/gop-house-candidate-claims-99-percent-mass-shooters-democrats.html

    • Zebowillis

      See above post where I remind you that the left wingers of the world are responsible for more murders than all the republicans to have ever existed ever!!! You’re side kills people. Plus you support abortion which could be made that it is the longest running form of genocide against black Americans since the democrat party caused the civil war and formed the KKK.

    • ProjectThor

      *Yawn* Nice script…too bad they gave you one that had been used on the Daily Caller, three months ago. You must be a new hire OFA troll… take some advice and get a real job.

  • Bluesman125

    Ted Kaczynski, The Unabomber. Anarcho-enviromentalist.

  • Wild Biker Bill

    From the Wall Street Journal, High Court Rejects Florida’s IQ Standard for Death Penalty

    “… a 2002 Supreme Court holding that said executing intellectually disabled people violates the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishments, and that had defined the condition as an IQ of “approximately 70.”

    So if your stupid enough you get a free pass on ‘Thou Shalt Not Kill’. You really can not make this stuff up.

  • Kaiser

    How about an Obama quote: ” If they bring a knife to a fight, we will bring a gun”. Well Obama, they took you up on your offer! Good job.

  • A concerned american

    Which ones did a Obama influence most, he endorses revolt, demonstrations and challenges to our laws. There has to be a study by psychologists and psychiatrists and they’ll probably release the results of their findings after Obama is out of office of course.
    It is sad that we have someone so lawless and immoral able to make decisions that adversely affect the citizens of this country.

  • colsooonscoorner

    Says it pretty well. If I can’t get my way I’ll just kill ’em. Righteous in their own being. Spoiled brats!!!

  • eberbisel

    Scopolamine: Colombia’s
    dangerous zombie drug

    http://voxxi.com/2013/06/23/scopolamine-colombia-zombie-drug/

    Please, I’m
    not a conspiracy nut, but I’d like you to think back to the Colorado theatre
    shooting. The person accused of doing the shooting was found sitting in a car
    completely oblivious to anything going on around him. If you remember his
    picture he looked like he was zoning or completely out of it. Read the article
    from the posted link, and make sure you scroll down to the picture of the guy
    holding a brief case. Scary resemblance to the look on the Colorado shooter. Do
    you remember the picture of the shooter from the Connecticut school shootings,
    same glazed look. When you read the article from the posted link, do me a favor
    and try to remember all of the mass shooting incidents in recent years. most of
    the shooters are dead, but those where pictures are posted, have a totally
    glazed over appearance. Read the article, and do your own research.

    Every time
    the gun haters want to push their agenda, a mass shooting occurs, and then the
    Schumer’s and the Feinstein’s come out of the woodwork. Also, when the Onumbnuts
    wants to change the media subject or gets into trouble regarding his lying about
    (Onumbnutscare, Benghazi, IRS Scandal, NSA Scandal, Etc.) someone shows up to
    bail him out and change the subject matter, interesting isn’t it.

    Oh last
    item have you seen or heard anything about the Colorado theatre shooting, where
    is he. Be AWARE,
    Be Very AWARE

    Give me
    some feedback please, I’d like to know what you think.

    “Silence Is
    Consent”

    • johnsnare

      Ohhhh so true eberbisel. That is a typical left wing liberal Democrat look. It is in their DNA.

      • Solletico Ranting

        So you can’t persuade a typical left wing Democrat to change their opinions using aruments and evidence? They’re destined to be typical left wing Democrats unitl they die cos it’s in the DNA?

        • Femfelis

          Curious. My parents were registered Independents who tended to vote Republican. How in the world did their DNA produce three librul offspring? :-)

    • rikker45

      Colorado theater shooter is in a nut house, being evaluated. another shooting , chuckecheese, shooter is a democrat and dickenlooper suspended his execution until the next governor will have to deal with it. no nuts.

    • Dave from San Antonio

      “Scopolamine”. Ah, yes. The “truth serum” of choice in WW2. In todays world…”zombie maker” is a better discription.

      • dontdoitagain

        Versed/Midazolam is a much better and newer drug for turning people into amnestic zombies. They will spill their guts and not remember a thing. Oh and Versed makes people feel pain more accutely, so they don’t have to leave any marks when they torture. Almost everybody who goes in for medical treatment gets this drug. Think that as you are babbling away about your deepest darkest secrets, there isn’t somebody there taking notes or videotaping? Beware of conscious sedation. It’s the drug they used to beat that veteran to death without him being able to remember how he got so badly beaten.

  • ErnieLane

    “Liberals don’t respect life” says it all.

  • Combat Veteran Seabee

    Register liberals to end gun violence!

    • Femfelis

      Cute! I guess then you could lock us away in one of those camps y’all believe FEMA has set up to house you. Let’s hear it for freedom!

  • Graywolf12

    a few more
    In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

    In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.

    In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

    In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

    In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.

    In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

    In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

    In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office….

    In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen , TX.

    In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

    In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

    In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

    In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

    In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

    In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown , CT.

    As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship

    • Wild Biker Bill

      You left out James Earl Ray, worker in George Wallace’s presidential campaign(Democrat), who shot and murdered Martin Luther King.

      • Femfelis

        And you’re leaving out that Dems in those days–and in that general neck of the woods, especially–were virulently anti-civil rights. Most of those Dixiecrats became Republicans after Nixon’s “southern strategy” went into full swing.

    • 97E

      In 2013 there’s Christopher Dorner, an avowed socialist who hated Bush who shot & killed four (including three Police Officers).

      That’s not even delving into the other socialist/”Progressive” spree killers from outside the United States, like the idiot from Norway who murdered a bunch of kids.

      • Breezeyguy

        That Norwegian guy looked like he was wearing some kind of masonic symbols.

        • LeSellers

          And …?

          “Looked like” and “some kind of” are too vague to be useful.

          Finally, the point that he is a Norwegian (grew up in a socialist state and believes socialism to be a good thing) underscores the point that it is leftist statist who are the true terrorists.

          Could there be a right-wing terrorist? Sure, but the first thing that would happen is that most other “right-wingers” would immeidately start searching for him and making sure he got caught. As it is, ther are no right-wing terrorists, in spite of Janet Reno and Jeh Johnson might imagine (or want us to).

          Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

          • Breezeyguy

            They tried to paint Timothy McVeigh as a right winger. Anybody have any data on that guy?

          • LeSellers

            Can’t speak to his politics, but he was definitely a nut job (with a military medical history to prove it). On psycho meds like all of the others, can’t find out about that, either.

            He was a proponent of II rights, and complained that gun control laws were “bad enough, but now a woman can’t even carry Mace in her purse”.

            I have read that he had Islamic training, but have not been able to verify this charge. There’s the third man issue, and a lot of other unanswered questions. Unlike so many death row inmates, his execution was not delayed for dozens of years on appeal. Curiouser and curiouser.

            And, lest we forget a major issue, we are talking about gun laws. McVeigh, irrespective of his leanings, used explosives, not firearms to do his evil.

            Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

          • Breezeyguy

            Yes, how brilliant of the courts to execute the main witness. I still remember the headline “The Face of Hatred”. No bleeding hearts protecting that guy.

          • Femfelis

            Not so curious. McVeigh didn’t want to delay the process.

          • Solletico Ranting

            He was registered republican in new york in the 80s.

          • Breezeyguy

            The exception that proves the rule I guess.

          • Solletico Ranting

            i don’t think the rule is very accurate. Seung-Hui Cho lived in Virginia which doesn’t have partisan voter registration so he can’t have been a registered democrat. Also Nidal Hasan lived in Texas and before that in Virginia adn Texas doesn’t have partisan voter registration either.

            Those are pretty basic errors in the claim at the top of this page.

            It makes me wonder if any of the killers listed were registered Democrats or if the whole story is made up.

            If you can find me evidence that any of those killers was registered democrat then I’d appreciate it.

          • Breezeyguy

            That’s a question for the author.

          • Femfelis

            Does the name “Timothy McVeigh” ring any bells with you? You may recall (if it hasn’t been lost down the memory hole) that he sympathized with the sovereign citizens and even left his car devoid of a license plate. It’s kind of ironic that is was that very act–very right-wing act, I might add–that made the police stop him in the first place, not at first dreaming that they’d nabbed the person who killed all those men, women and children in Oklahoma City. Of course they were probably just a bunch of government teat-suckin’ libruls, and thus deserved to be blown to bits by a great Amurrican patriot.

          • Femfelis

            As to jobs, why don’t you ask Mr. Boehner why he won’t let any of the jobs bills that have been proposed come up for a vote in the House? You guys have something against fixing and maintaining the infrastructure we all use?

      • Solletico Ranting

        Anders Brevik killed young people who were attending a Norwegian Labour Party summer camp. The kids he killed were left wingers and he himself was avowedly conservative, right wing and anti-muslim. Google him.

    • drattastic

      Every single murder in Detroit , LA , Chicago and NO along with every other “chocolate city”.

      • Solletico Ranting

        Your comment could be interpreted as a little racist.

        • drattastic

          I didn’t coin the phrase “chocolate city” a black man did . I did go out on a limb and assume that democrats commit nearly 100% of gun murders in those cities . Do you disagree ?

        • drattastic

          The truth seems to be racist these days .

    • mwl

      Excellent post the article Joe wrote only enhaces just a small part of the democrats agenda of kill anyone we think is a threat. The media holds this true as well. Im not a sports guy but thats what they did in Sterlings case. Just exactly where is his racist base. He was speaking to his friend and not a public outcry of racism. Yet the leftist socialist communists propaganda is they are never wrong and they never harmed anyone for their beliefs. Sen Cummings said it best just like a little girl in respoinse to Issa and the IRs scandal. Lie, Cover up, Lie, cover up, Lie, cover up.
      democrats think when they shoot or kill its for a cause which inturn justifies their actions. Totally justified and they’ll do it again when the time comes around.
      Their postion is “Doin right has no end”, then load up and head out to their pre-choosen spot. All these shootings were premeditated. Cant arm up with a mission inless there was a thought possess.
      The shootings of Aurora, and Sandy both were filmed and that film reveals the true facts that these people were well coached and armed. Nothing has been released for public scrutiny. Like the obama birth certificate….all a lie.
      Secoindly, the leftists say the right is greedy, has no concern for others.
      The San Bernadino kid was driving a BMW about 60-80k dollar car, and the ole man was a movie producer in socialist/communist California. Theres irony.

    • brucejc04

      Good stuff Graywolf12! Can you provide attribution? We need good documentation or Snopes will knock it down..

      • Graywolf12

        I had/have somewhere. I’ll try to find it and post. Each can be Google. Snopes is a left lean outfit, so if you think they are wrong look it up.

        • Diniv

          Google searches are not revealing facts, they are showing you a set of sites that match your search query. They aren’t exactly validated factual sources

  • Enubus

    Isn’t it obvious, Liberals all suffer from mental illness from one degree to another!

    • John Francis Russo

      I do believe that, as in the book “1984”, they have mastered the art of DOUBLETHINK.

    • Shane

      Liberalism is a mental disease that causes its sufferers to hate his country and work against his country’s best interests.

      • Diniv

        Does that only apply to guys, or are women afflicted similarly?

    • Ban Goldacre

      When you said “liberals” I think you meant ‘religious people’.

  • SirWilhelm

    Since the Democrats want background checks, we should give them to them, as long as being a Democrat/Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Progressive, is among the criteria that keeps someone from owning a gun. I’m just kidding, that would be unconstitutional, but, oh, if the Founders could have seen the future!

    • kris littlefield

      Since the Democrats are calling for background checks what say we start with Obama? We know only what he told us about his background.

      • SirWilhelm

        Oh man! For sure! If only we could. There’s been many who have been trying to do just that, since he was first nominated.

      • John Francis Russo

        Agreed ! Unseal those records.

    • Solletico Ranting

      It’s a shame the person who posted this blog didn’t fact check the apparent democrat affiliation of the murderers listed. There is no evidence any of them are/were democrats. If there is can you direct me to it?

      • SirWilhelm

        Why didn’t you find it for yourself, if you believe that’s true, and want to debunk the poster? It’s pretty low to do it your way, by implying he’s wrong, without any proof from you. You may be right, so, prove it, if it means that much to you.

  • Joe

    Facts are facts, but most people only see what they want to.

    • Diniv

      I see naked ladies. I highly recommend it.

  • john

    Speaking of SPECIAL RIGHTS, how about getting the human-rights-campaign on board with getting the Christian lady sentenced to hang after torture her just release? Shouldn’t this be a top priority with a name like humanrightscampaign? Just because she is a Christian, they do this. Or are they secret admirers of Sudan’s court processes? This is way beyond barbaric and should be at the top of news headlines each day until something changes. In my opinion

    • Badkarma060

      They stoned her to death o the court house steps…

      • Combat Veteran Seabee

        That was a different woman who married whom she wanted to! The one that will hang is iranian, just gave birth in jail, and is being hung for marrying a christian!

        • Badkarma060

          How sad is it, that this isn’t an isolated incident. It’s a common occurrence when dealing with the “religion of peace”. Savages one and all. Just one mans opinion.

          • roadking2000

            And still no public rebuke from the “moderate muslims”. THAT speaks volumes!

          • .madashell

            Correction : There are no “moderate” muslims.
            All muslims follow satans playbook and no matter how they are living now when it comes down to the nut cuttin’ they will fall right in line with the demands of that self proclaimed “prophet” muhammed.

          • John Francis Russo

            Islamo delenda est !!!

          • taliesin319

            Do that, and I’ll provide all the salt it takes to prevent an occurrence or revival.

        • John Francis Russo

          And, being hung for CONVERTING to Christianity. BTW Obama was raised by his step-father as a muslim. Obama claims that he i a Christian. Therefore; he has also converted to Christianity, like this woman. Yet, there is no fatwah (death sentence) announced against him by the jihadis. WHY ? Personally I think that it is because of the muslim practice TAQUIA {claiming to be a Christian while remaining a muslim}.

          • cmq cmq

            no he wasnt

          • Shane

            Obama did indeed attend a Muslim school while he was living in Indonesia with his mother and Muslim step-father.

          • Diniv

            More importantly he supports Arsenal. Or was that Osama?

          • Ban Goldacre

            Possibly. Guns in it.

          • cmq cmq

            so obama is a muslim then

          • David in MA

            and a citizen of Indonesia, he was adopted by his muslim stepfather and this dictates he also convert to islam.

          • Femfelis

            And how long is it since he lived in Indonesia? Did his mum even stay married to that fellow? Really, folks.

          • David in MA

            Ya know, people like you who don’t have a clue scare me, I hope you don’t vote, for if you do, you are a problem producer and give America people in government who destroy this country.
            THIS SOB IS NOT ELIGABLE BY THE CONSTITUTION TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA! This is why he hid his life history/documents, why he has multiple SS card numbers, why no one remembers him in THREE colleges, on & on & on!
            Your “argument” is moot!

          • Femfelis

            But David, Obama was born in Hawaii. Last I looked, that is a state. And that makes him eligible. Y’all have yet to prove that he was born in a foreign country. I know you don’t want to hear this, but simply wishing something was true doesn’t make it so.

            I know you’re thinking that because he lived for a time in Indonesia, that makes him foreign, ipso facto. But reality simply doesn’t work that way.

            And by the way, I’ve been voting all my adult life, starting when I was in college. You lot are very keen to limit the franchise of anyone who disagrees with you, I know. But it looks like you’re going to have to get an amendment to the Constitution to accomplish disenfranchising those of us who are of the female persuasion.

            You say my argument is moot. I could just as well say that yours are sheer paranoia. But I won’t. Every citizen has a right to his or her opinions, y’know. And just so you know, I was born in Kentucky, which has been a state for lo these many years( though not as long as Massachusetts, I’ll grant you).

          • David in MA

            There I no proof he was born in Hawaii, a certificate of live birth is not abirth certificate an this as been explained that many people born in foreign countries an obtain. He lived in Indonesia because his mother married an Indonesian man, he was adopted by this man because he had to be to be a citizen of Indonesia and in doing so had to become a Muslim so he could attend school, in school he was educated as a Muslim. obama is not an American citizen, is Constitutionally unqualified to become president as it has been (forever) known a Natural Born Citizen is a biological child of two Natural Born Citizens, don’t confuse native born with Natural Born…..
            This is backed up with the fact obama has hidden his birth certificate, educational records, has more than one SS Number (one from Connecticut where he never lived), obama is an unknown. I hope you do change the flavor of your cool- aid from time to time.

          • Shane

            It is spelled Taqiyya, and it is the practice of deceiving infidels in order to protect Islam. Qur’an (16:106) –
            Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel”
            a Muslim to tell a lie.

            This MUST-READ document Download here: http://tool.donation-net.net/Images/Email/1097/Taqiyya_and_Islam_s_rules_of_war.pdf
            outlines the essentials of the perpetual warfare worldview that is
            inherent in the ideology of political Islam, extensively citing the
            Qur’an and the hadith, as well as Islamic scholars and works from
            the four schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

          • taliesin319

            Well for one thing, no Baptismal record has ever been seen. The Christian
            myth comes about due to his presence in the Congregation of his mentor, Rabid Dog Wright, who is as Christian as Farrahkhan.

          • Liberal Dawg TOP BANDIT dawg

            Noncesense

          • David in MA

            Because it is ok for muslims to lie…..besides that Obama expects to be proclaimed the Mahdi as soon as America is destroyed.

      • Ban Goldacre

        Just like they used to do to slaves in the US!

        • Femfelis

          And as some would doubtless gladly do again. Let’s hear it for the good ol’ days…

    • colsooonscoorner

      You’d think the prez would have said or done something, like withholding the arms he keeps shipping to them.

      • jjkrjw

        Two-thirds of our foreign aid goes to muslim countries now. Why is that?

        • lana ward

          Because OHitler is an America hating Communist Muslim Psychopath. He loves and will do anything for Muslims!!!

          • terrapin53

            you’re an idiot

          • lana ward

            And you’re a terrorist lover. Heil terrorist OHitler!!!

        • Ban Goldacre

          Because they are BETTER.

        • colsooonscoorner

          We have a muslim in chief, instead of a Commander in Chief. Sickening.
          Fools that voted him in, and for a second term at that. Some people never learn!

        • Solletico Ranting

          Do you mean two-thirds of foreign aid just in terms of official development assistance or do you mean all foreign aid (including development assistance and military assistance?)

        • Patrick Lilley

          In the hopes that they might wipe out the right wing. Thought it was obvious.

        • Femfelis

          Commence the theme to “Twilight Zone”. Conspiracies to the left! Conspiracies behind! Conspiracies ahead! Conspiracies everywhere, except for the right, which is pure and godly. Give us a break, y’all.

        • Cole

          Well, it might have something to do with the fact that we crapped on Iraq and Afghanistan which also created a crisis in Pakistan as the extremists fled to that country. Egypt has always been one of the biggest recipients because we paid them to be friendly to Israel who just so happens is the biggest recipient of US foreign aid of all of them. I haven’t checked, but I would guess those are the top 5 recipients of aid, and why. I’m sure Jordan is up there, and I am not sure why except that they are an ally in close proximity to Israel.

          • Cole

            Also it was the same way in 2008 when Obama took over, it didn’t “just happen”

      • notislam

        i ALWAYS remember that BHO and his islam0enemy-within ILK are the Left AND GETS help froM the RINOS — UGH I’m sick!

        • Ban Goldacre

          What are you talking about Withnail?

        • colsooonscoorner

          You’re not the only one. Think there are a lot of us out here.

          • Ban Goldacre

            Round ’em up and put ’em in concrete.

        • Lonnie Franklin

          WHAT did he say!!

        • Femfelis

          Your last sentence is truer than you know.

      • jondarmes

        I would never think that, not with this POS. He won’t even go get our Marine out of the sewer that is mexico.

      • Harvey Melton

        and risk losing his Islamic brotherhood membership haha!! you jest.

    • jjkrjw

      muslims are in charge of human rights at the UN. How ironical.

      • grama18

        THEY are idiots !!

        • WHO are the idiots?

          • Ban Goldacre

            THEM.

          • WRONG. The idiots are those who allowed the ED mooselems to be in charge of ANYTHING.

          • Ban Goldacre

            Let the JOOSE loose about this HOOSE.

          • Huh?

          • Ban Goldacre

            It’s an allegorical device. Reread the comment, if it isn’t obvious you need serious help.

          • I’ve been told for 50 years I need serious help. Perhaps the VA will offer it.

          • Liberal Dawg

            I can offer pet assisted therapy but only if you can cut dog hair

          • ANYTHING to help me get more liberal so I can get some of those freebees.

          • Liberal Dawg TOP BANDIT dawg

            How big are you scissors?

          • David in MA

            stop smoking dat chit !

          • Femfelis

            You do realize you’re practically asking for him/her to –er–cut you down to (Lilliputian) size? :-)

          • David in MA

            Define “THEM”.

          • Liberal Dawg TOP BANDIT dawg

            No way dawg

      • John Francis Russo

        Get the US out of the UN. AND, kick the UN out of the US.

        • Carol Dorne

          I’ve been saying that since I got back from Vietnam. John

          • greatjoy

            We need to be organized to make things happen. When people just
            say things but don’t get organized, nothing happens. You notice how
            the left is ALWAYS organizing.

          • Ban Goldacre

            Build a fortress in your head. Enter the fortress and THROWAWAY the KEY.
            You will be safe as long as your fortress is impregnable.

          • Lonnie Franklin

            Go eat your brownies HempHead!!!

          • Femfelis

            Regarding that impregnable fortress: looks like that hoss has long ago left the barn…

          • David in MA

            America can organize by voting out the entrenched congress and be careful of who is voted in as president. New blood is needed, conservatives are needed.

          • VolunteerVet

            The first step is to stop vote fraud. Make it a capital offense!!! It is really treasonous.

          • Femfelis

            A capital offense? Seriously??? Isn’t that a bit like swatting a fly with a nuclear device?

            What punishment would you suggest for those who deliberately seek to disenfranchise other citizens if said citizens don’t think the same way? I expect you’d “punish” such folk with a medal and a ticker tape parade.

          • Ban Goldacre

            You never went to Vietnam. “I strenuously object?” Is that how it works? Hm? “Objection.”
            “Overruled.” “Oh, no, no, no. No, I STRENUOUSLY object.” “Oh. Well, if
            you strenuously object then I should take some time to reconsider.”

      • lana ward

        Muslims will soon be in charge of everything and OHitler will declare himself Dictator. I read in 2010 he will be Americas’ last President

        • David in MA

          People will not believe this simply because they do not think it can happen, even as it is……the Illuminati, Rothschild’s, et al have been working in this direction and succeeding because it is unbelievable it can happen….Folks, “IT” is happening, and it is time to believe it, how much more destruction to America do we need?

          • lana ward

            Check out the site, Pat Dollard. It WILL be worth your time!!

        • Robert Umberto Covello

          Lol you forgot your tin foil hat.

          • lana ward

            Check out the site, Pat Dollard, see ALL the news MSM WON’T report. They should be hung for not doing their job!!

      • Ban Goldacre

        Ironical yet not moronical. Or maniacal.

        • jondarmes

          Or insane stinking liberal?

          • Liberal Dawg TOP BANDIT dawg

            You make no sense dawg.

          • jondarmes

            Don’t worry about it, I wouldn’t make sense to the above mentioned insane stinking liberal either.

          • Femfelis

            Claro que si. (And now you have to wonder if that stinking liberal with the cat picture an illigal* alien, as well?)

            (* Spelling is courtesy of Lou Dobbs’ pronunciation.)

      • Ban Goldacre

        You are talking noncesense

        • Femfelis

          Apparently the fnords have gotten to this one. Oh well, those damned Golden Apple folks are everywhere. Kallisti, y’all! :-)

    • paintinc56

      You do realize that Christians are being kidnapped, beaten tortured , raped & murdered EVERY DAY all over the Middle East, right? Is the leftist propaganda machine media covering any of it? Is Obama concerned with the fact that he has done everything in his power to destabilize the Middle East, armed muslim terrorists & that those terrorists are now using those weapons to slaughter entire Christian villages? Where are the Christian/Catholic churches on this outrage, how come so few ever open their gutless mouths about these muslim atrocities? I guess they are too distracted campaigning for amnesty or illegals.

      • John Francis Russo

        Those who DO preach about Islam and Obama get their tax free status cut off by the IRS. What a shame that so many Christians are so easily intimidated.

        • Ban Goldacre

          Turn the other cheek and let that be intimidated too. Don’t worry, when you die there will be this big, like, garden with custard and angels and wildlife.

          • David in MA

            wake up!

          • Liberal Dawg TOP BANDIT dawg

            Woof

          • Femfelis

            To which I must reply, can I get a meow? :-)

          • Lonnie Franklin

            You are a friggin moron1!!

      • Don Sebold

        Obimbo will pay one day

        • Femfelis

          I guess you could always hope for one of those “second amendment remedies”, huh? But isn’t that an illegal “solution”?

          • Don Sebold

            No….first of all,the dangerous ones are all left wing democrats read above…..my comment was aimed at his day before the Creator….can’t buy HIM

      • Don

        Obama has fueled and funded all of the muslim uprisings with our taxes. That’s what boils my ass.

      • Robert Umberto Covello

        You do realize Christians used to do the same thing and there is still parts of the world where they do? Na, you wouldn’t know that since you’re so biased and wouldn’t possibly look something up for yourself.

    • Shane

      Let us add the beltway shooters, John Muhammad and his protege, to the
      list of mass murderers who were non-white and Muslim. Let us never forget that the 9/11 perps were devout Muslims who were killing the enemies of Islam in a jihad against the USA.

  • Juggy Brodleteen

    Oh for hell’s sake! What about:

    David Koresh
    Randy Weaver
    Timothy McVeigh
    James Huberty

    Cho was a resident alien with no US voter registration. Loughner was a registered Independent. Lanza’s not on your list. He was described as “He was always very free-market economics and capitalism,” but, let’s face it, politics wasn’t a motive for this kid.

    In short, it’s complete BS to say “all mass murderers are Democrats,” and you know it. If you’re going to rant and rave about your special rights, at least muster the dignity to be honest about it.

    • Grain of Salt

      > David Koresh – Not a mass murder case, unless you consider the U.S. government mass murders.
      > Randy Weaver – Not a mass murder case.
      > Timothy McVeigh – Affiliations still debated and contested, except by those who believe the baseless ‘angry white male’ façade.
      > James Huberty – Registered Democrat

    • carlton goodson

      As a point Randy Weaver never shot anyone. And David Koresh never fired on any one until he was fired on. Unlike this list of lib’s.

    • SirWilhelm

      Even if you’re right, that’s a lot of Democrats, in the article, that have committed mass murder, considering it’s Democrats who are always claiming that it’s Reublicans and Tea Partiers, that are the dangerous ones. But then, that’s the kind of double standard you have to expect from the Left. Do as they say, not as they do.

      • Juggy Brodleteen

        The problem with the assertion that “all mass murderers are democrats,” (which, I assure you, is NOT a true statement) is not whether or not all of the people in a given list are actually Democrats (or even whether or not MOST of them are). The problem is with the assertion that mass murderers are motivated by their politics. One thing is certain about any given list of people who have criminally killed multiple people with guns – they’re either mentally insane or religiously motivated (or, worse, both).

        This argument attempts to convey the idea that only liberals will kill people with guns, which completely misses the mark when it comes to the actual issue – people killing large groups of other people with guns. Who CARES what they may (or may not) have once registered as, politically?

        This whole line of argument is weird combination of attacking the strawman and non sequitur “logic.” Add a dash of forgetting that correlation does not imply causation, and you suddenly find yourself in the thick of an argument based on pure fantasy, which ignores the actual facts of the issue.

        • speedle24

          Let’s look at it this way Juggy. Who is vilified constantly by the liberal “progressive” politicians, and same slander doubled down on by the mainstream media? You guessed it, The Tea Party. No Tea Party member has ever been shown to even commit assault on another person for political reasons – forget about mass murder.

          Yet the lie is consistently put out there that Tea Partiers are “dangerous” and “bigoted” and have to be monitored by the government, etc. You seem to suddenly be a fan of “facts”, but the facts about the Tea Party don’t seem to be of interest.

          Have you ever heard a public official report that “progressives” should be singled out as “dangerous” (forget about any media in this regard)? Juggy, do you not like the way this article goes down? Well what’s good for the goose….

          • Don

            I remember nancey pooploosy claiming she seen the Tea Party members walking around with swastika signs, damn press never called out that looney toon clown on that lie either!

          • Femfelis

            Seems to me the Tea Party weapon of choice is the mouth. If they ever decide to marry what they think and say to the weapons y’all are so besotted with, look out!

          • speedle24

            That will happen in direct proportion to the degree of tyranny foisted upon the American citizenry. Although you attempt to be satirical Fem you are actually issuing a valid warning.

        • SirWilhelm

          I did not assert that “all mass murderers are democrats”, nor did anyone imply they were motivated by their politics. What we’re saying is, that most of the mass murderers, are turning out to be Democrats, as well as mental cases.

          The Democrats care how people are registered, so they can blame the Right, and have an excuse, to disarm them. That’s why the main stream media never mentions a mass murderer’s party affiliation, if it is Democrat.

          It’s the Left that looks for strawmen to advance their anti-gun agenda, and you’re the one that misquotes, and misinterprets, what I’m saying, to make your argument.

          • Don

            Fact that any time a shooter or mass murder is reported the lamestream media will report right away if the person is a Republican or Tea Party member. As in the case of the Aurora shooter a Tea Party member with the same name as the shooter was used right away by the lamestream media until they found out they were wrong and had to back track on that, of course they left out the part were the shooter was actually a dumbocrap.

        • Don

          Considering the large number of those involved in mass shooting happen to be democraps does matter. There has to be a reason so many of them choose to join the democrap party and it has to play a part in their thinking. I have relatives who are die hard liberals and they are total loons and also threaten violence as soon as you corner them in a lie. Must have something to do with democrap thinking as far as I can see. I see you also jumped straight into blaming religion typical move of the lib. So they can be religiously motivated according to you, but not politically motivated????? Why are you trying to push the religion angle but deny the political angle? What are you hiding from you little liberal troll.

        • ProjectThor

          Ignorant shyt, aren’t you? F’n Trolls…

          • Juggy Brodleteen

            There it is. When someone disagrees with your opinion and you can’t make a reasoned argument, you resort to belligerence, name-calling, and/or hostility, features that are endemic of the far right.

            Just because someone enters your bubble (this site) and voices disagreement doesn’t meant it’s a troll, it just means that someone wanted to voice their opposition to the irrational discourse that goes one here.

            Let me lay it out for you one more time – this article *literally* makes the claim that *all* mass murderers are Democrats. I challenge that assertion as untrue. I am correct in my challenge, at the simplest level, because at least 2 people on the given list are or were *not* registered Democrats (Cho, a foreign national, Hasan, in a state that doesn’t register “democrats” and “republicans,” and Loughner was a *registered* Independent). The point being, if even ONE person on the list isn’t actually a Democrat, than the entire claim that “All mass murderers are Democrats” is wrong.

            But, as I’ve previously said, the *real* issue isn’t whether or not a mass murder is a democrat or a republican, because most of them did not kill for political reasons. So even if the claim were true (and, again, let’s be clear: it’s NOT true), it’s irrelevant. The political affiliation of insane people who go on rampages with guns isn’t an issue worth exploring. It’s not the “problem” with what’s happening, if you will.

            So, can make a reasonable response to that, or will you just call me some more names?

          • Solletico Ranting

            John! Henry! Kevin! Hector! James! 😀 x

          • Juggy Brodleteen

            It’s easier to call names and assume I’m a troll than to engage in a serious discussion about the issue, isn’t it? Much easier.

    • Combat Veteran Seabee

      Why? you’re not! And by the way, lanza was a left leaning punk!

    • Antoninus

      I’d like to see comments from the 3 ‘geniuses’ who gave this baseless comment a thumbs up 😉

      • Why is it so-o-o easy to spot O’Bummer voters?

        • Femfelis

          Actually, it should be a little more difficult. We aren’t the ones with keyboards stuck on Caps Lock. Now that’s a dead giveaway! :-)

    • This proves my theory that if a conservative is 99% right, don’t say it.

    • ColoradoMan

      What are you trying to say? Huberty was mentally unstable. Koresh and Weaver didn’t commit mass murder, and McVeigh, if he was guilty, didn’t use firearms. Loughner was a liberal regardless of his voter registration. And don’t forget to include Hitler, Stalin, and Mao – all leftists.

    • Guest

      McVeigh and Huberty go back further than the article seems to intend, though McVeigh indeed leaned a bit Right. Your reference to Koresh and Weaver are obviously wrong. Loughner worked for REP Giffords’ campaign. Lanza’s family was known to be liberal, and I know a few “free-market” liberals who love Obama.
      That said, I will lend you the example you need: the Sikh Temple shooting in Wisconsin by Wade Michael Page, a Rightwinger too stupid to know that Sikhs aren’t Muslims. That said, it would seem to be an outlier compared to the obvious pattern, the point of which is simply that it’s not the side most associated with gun rights which tends to produce those who misuse weapons of whatever sort.

    • Lee Thomas Walker

      McVeigh and Huberty go back further than the article seems to intend, though McVeigh indeed leaned a bit Right. Your reference to Koresh and Weaver are obviously wrong. Loughner worked for REP Giffords’ campaign. Lanza’s family was known to be liberal, and I know a few “free-market” liberals who love Obama.
      That said, I will lend you the example you need: the Sikh Temple shooting in Wisconsin by Wade Michael Page, a Rightwinger too stupid to know that Sikhs aren’t Muslims.

      • Juggy Brodleteen

        Loughner did, indeed, work on Gifford’s 2007 campaign, in which she ran as a “blue dog” (conservative) Democrat. Loughner was also schizophrenic, paranoid, and a known misogynist, anti-Semite, and conspiracy theorist. His politics, which seemed to be all of the map, were probably among the least of his reasons for doing what he did. Regardless of any of those facts, he was a registered Independent, not a Democrat, rendering the claim of this article that “all mass murderers are Democrats” false.

        I don’t think we have a lot of information about Nancy Lanza’s politics, or any indication that politics played a big role in her life, but we do have this little nugget from Russel Hanomen, self-proclaimed “close friend” of Nancy Lanza, when speaing of Adam: “Adam Lanza also was “an organic vegan” with a conservative worldview.” Doesn’t sound like a “known liberal” to me. Regardless, unless Adama Lanza was actually a registered Democrat, which I doubt he was or can be proven, then once again the claim that “all mass murderers are Democrats” is rendered false.

        I’m sure we can continue to play this game with others on this list, and maybe even more mass murderers that didn’t make the cut (probably because they weren’t Democrats), but as I’ve tried to say, it misses the point entirely. First, the claim that “all mass murderers are Democrats” has *already been shown to be false.* If anything can be said about this debate, it’s the fact that the article is imply untrue.

        But, more importantly, what I’m really interested in understanding is why you (the collective conservative pro-gun crowd) feel it’s so important that the actions of obvious lunatics need to somehow be explained or supported by their perceived politics. Listen, I get that the “right to keep and bear arms” is a very political issue – it has been so for a very, very long time, and the degree to how political it has been historically can be attributed to both “sides” of the argument. The simple fact is, *none* of our rights are absolute, and everyone here that is remotely reasonable understands this. There is no “absolute” freedom of speech (you can’t slander someone, for example). There is no “absolute” freedom of religion (you can’t stone a sinner to death and expect to get away with it, no matter what your holy text says). You can’t keep and bear nuclear missiles, or bazookas, or even fully automatic weapons (in most cases). And so on.

        You need to understand that most “libtards” as you like to call us, since calling the opposition names is so fashionable among the right, aren’t clamoring to tear down your door and strip you of all your guns. In fact, many of us are also gun-owners as well (myself included, complete with concealed carry permit). Many of us are wondering if maybe, since “Keeping and bearing arms” is not an absolute right, we can’t all find some sort of reasonable ground that reduces the guns that are out there, and reduces the ease with which the criminally insane can get their hands on them. We’re open to talking about it, but articles like this, which try to paint “all mass murderers as Democrats” don’t help the conversation. That, ultimately, is my point.

        • Lee Thomas Walker

          I was simply adding facts to the individuals you mentioned. As you should have noted, I did not agree with the contention of the article, do believe in keeping accuracy in our facts (though I believe this article was produced not out of a desire to deceive, but rather out of sheer ignorance and lack of thinking), and offered you a solid counterexample.
          As for the rest, keep in mind that the Left routinely pastes its opposition with names far more insulting than “libtard.” The big example right now, of course, is “racist.” There is also “sexist,” “bigot,” “homophobe,” and “Islamophobe.”
          The difficulty the Right finds with talking with the Left on matters like this is your greater agenda. Nothing you all (yes, I talk in collective terms) ever suggest is an end to the matter, but rather the setting up of a next stage. Registration becomes confiscation (as has happened some in NY and CA, and possibly coming in CN). Mental health considerations go from certified crazies to anyone who has a bad day and gets mad on Facebook. All of this can be shown to be simply a step-by-step effort to virtual civilian disarmament. Other issues follow similar patterns.
          The result is that even some ideas which might be someone “reasonable” and workable have to be opposed. Someone who likes the idea of background checks on private gun sales might have to oppose such legislation because it WILL–no doubt, WILL–be used to produce registration lists without a LOT of safeguards, and it will be used both to deny Second Amendment rights to those in immediate need (I can’t lend a neighbor or family member a weapon when faced with, say, a stalking ex at the time they need it) and to make criminals out of people doing the most innocuous things (e.g., accidentally leaving a gun at a friend’s place, using a friend’s safe to store a weapon, or even leaving a weapon in a friend’s car while running into a bank). Add to that the slippery slope we see now in CA–their laws didn’t prevent this latest shooting (though a good guy with a gun would have stopped it while the bum was still using his knife), and so they are going for still more laws, and if you are honest, you will see the difficulty of working with the other side.
          It is correct that there are no absolute freedoms. Yet it’s interesting how your side seems to stretch every other freedom (save for mainstream religion) to the utmost, while constraining the Second Amendment freedom as much as possible, and then some. I can’t attest to your specific attitude, but I can tell you that your side is simply not trustworthy on this matter. Contrary to your insinuation, your side indeed has a disarmament agenda, and THAT is the problem.

          • Juggy Brodleteen

            It’s entirely possible that you’re correct that there are some liberals who would prefer to see complete disarmament. What is real, however, is that there is no widespread effort for complete disarmament, that I’m aware of. The conservative fear of a sudden dissolution of the 2nd Amendment seems to be more in the realm of fantasy (or conspiracy) than rooted anywhere in reality.

            The fact is, there are people in this country who represent a significant proportion of its citizens – if not a majority – that are simply fed up with the widespread and frequent instances of horrible gun violence. It is the gun culture as much as the actual guns themselves that are at least *partially* responsible for these instances. And, since we can agree that there are no absolutes in this issue, and in the protected Rights that encompass it, then there must be some sort of middle ground wherein we can achieve at least a reduction in such violence.

            The problem I see, from what you’ve just described, is that the right fears the left wants to take away all of their guns, so they won’t budge an inch on gun legislation, and the left fears that the right won’t budge an inch on gun legislation, so the only solution is to push back and try to take them away entirely. Like so many political issues in this country, the stubborn divisiveness seems to immediately push each side to the extremes of their respective positions, with no one willing to entertain the middle ground and compromise. That’s now how it used to be here – even *I* remember a different time.

            I should also point out, once we cut through the noise and established some definitions for our individual positions, we *seem* to be capable of having a reasonable discussion on the matter. Imagine that.

          • Lee Thomas Walker

            I appreciate your final paragraph about being capable of a reasonable discussion. I do believe that is true.
            However, there remains the political reality. As I described, and as I have no doubt you fully appreciate, the Left works incrementally. When they say they don’t want to take this or that away, I know to always add the word, “yet,” to their statement. Oh, I’m sure they would be agreeable to letting people have all sorts of things locked away at gun clubs, and maybe allow a few single-shot items at home for convenience, but anything with real Second Amendment value is something they want gone (though maybe not “yet”).
            As for responsibility, I’d point out that guns are the only item which people attempt to seriously regulate when misused, even though they are the ONLY property specifically protected by the Constitution. And rarely if ever is there any tradeoff or added protection offered by those working for gun control. They don’t say, “Limit mags to 15 rounds, and in return, get nationwide car-carry without permit,” or “Ban AR15 configurations, and in return, get a suitable rifle designated as the official militia arm, the attempted added regulation or confiscation of which would legally warrant militant response.” No, it’s always essentially one way.
            Yes, the gun culture has impact on violent crime, even as the car culture has impact on all sorts of crimes. The Internet culture impacts so much more wrongful action than do guns. How much child porn is spread via the Net? How much slander and libel? How many national security secrets are leaked? Or statements of sedition broadcast? And how are so many crimes coordinated? Restricting the Internet and other communication–i.e., the First Amendment–would do far more to make society safer than restricting the Second. But aside from religious practice and conservative outlets, the Left wouldn’t dream of infringing on the rights of the PC media.
            Your assertion that the Left goes extreme in response to the Right is fallacious. Please, it’s the Right that is “reactionary.” Your claim that countering the no-compromise pro-gun crowd is to go overboard makes no sense. It only reinforces what pro-gunners already know. The logical response, then, would be for anti-gunners could try more modest and more reasonable ideas–logical, that is, if complete effective disarmament (single-shot target rifles and such do not count) is not their goal.
            I can see how some very targeted and very reasonable idea might be sellable to the pro-gun crowd, IF they are accompanying tradeoffs and guarantees, as described earlier. Yet again, there is always the Leftist version of the Jihadi taqiyya–lying to forward the agenda. I’m not sure how, after all that has been attempted by the Left, you could ever convince pro-gunners you all have changed. Feinstein’s proposal last year and the NY SAFE Act (research the short history behind it–some Dems wanted to limit all guns to single-shot) sorta hurt those chances.
            Honestly, this most recent case is the PERFECT proof that the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Had any CCW holder been allowed to be armed there, it would have ended with the first stabbing. And that really is the answer. Deal with the world that is, not some fantasy world where a law makes physical items disappear. Lock up mental kooks, rather than leave them in society (my general standard is, if an adult cannot be trusted to bear arms, they should not be free in society). And finally, note that quite honestly, these high-profile acts are very rare and kill few people in comparison to other crimes.
            That, honestly, is the reality.

          • Juggy Brodleteen

            So what’s to be done? You said, “I can see how some very targeted and very reasonable idea might be
            sellable to the pro-gun crowd, IF they are accompanying tradeoffs and
            guarantees, as described earlier.” But, such an idea is never put forth. Instead we get strong backlash and “open letters” that remind readers (some of whom might be liberal) that their children’s lives aren’t worth as much as Joe’s right to keep a pistol in his pocket. The problem is the vitriol – the strong, reactionary language, the immediate underlying and not-so-subtle threats, and the rabid name-calling and insult slinging. I know it comes from both sides, but from my side of the bubble, it sure seems a lot “stronger” from the right.

            Nowhere on Joe’s site, or I’m sure any other far-right, pro-gun site will you see a thoughtfully articulated article that reads, “Hey, innocent people got killed and victims and fellow citizens alike are going to be really pissed off about it. Let’s try to find a way to work together to minimize the backlash and put on the table sincere options to help reduce this kind of violence in this country in a way that doesn’t compromise our Constitutional rights.”

            No, instead we see “Why are all mass murderers Democrats” and “Your children’s lives don’t trump my rights.” It’s exceedingly difficult to engage in a conversation about making changes that everyone can live with when that’s the first thing out of the gate after a tragedy. I’m sure you can see that.

          • Lee Thomas Walker

            The problem, again, is the agenda of the anti-gun side. They really do want essentially disarmament. Statements from most to the contrary are taqiyya.
            A word about the “trumping” comments some pro-gunners make: I know the rhetoric about “rights.” I personally–and this is just me–focus less on “rights” for their own sake, and more on the function for which those rights are secured. In reality, it’s not (just) “rights” as such which would be trumped, but rather the ability and function of protecting their kids because it MIGHT–somewhere–prevent an event that rarely happens in the context of American crime. Far more break-ins and street assaults occur than “mass shootings.” So as a practical matter, when someone says their right to arms “trumps” something, the functional issue is that them having the ability to defend their home, person, family, property, and homeland trumps substantively restrictive measures in a largely-futile attempt to prevent something that, again, is relatively rare. It’s not so much the gun in the pocket itself, but rather the power that gun–and other, more powerful arms–gives. “God created all men, but Colonel Colt made all men equal.”
            Answer me this: Would liberals be willing to have their comments about wars pre-approved to ensure they are not spreading enemy propaganda (libertarians on the Right would need to do the same thing)? Would liberals be willing to have their Fourth Amendment rights trumped to ensure they are not harboring illegal aliens? Would liberals be willing to have the (supposed) Eighth Amendment rights of Jihadi terrorists trumped via waterboarding–as well as ACTUAL, full-blown torture–in the interest of preventing a terrorist attack on some PC target? Again, there is a double-standard here. The right to arms is subjected to more and more restrictions, while the more “liberal” rights are expanded to include enemy illegal combatants.
            Where have anti-gunners offered anything to pro-gunners (as much as I hate seeing it as a negotiation)? What restrictions have they offered to end or new options create in return for some new restriction? Nationwide car-carry? Concealed-carry reciprocity? Reopening the machine gun registry (research if you don’t know what I mean by that)? Free ammo for civilian practice at military bases? Allowing licensed carriers to have arms at places where these attacks occur, and thus be in a position to stop the action before it becomes a “mass shooting”? How about protections from police harassment of people lawfully carrying? Or of people with carry permits, even without a weapon?
            I honestly would love to see some of these ideas proposed. It might change the whole debate.

          • Lee Thomas Walker

            And about the vitriole: I don’t know this site’s functional policy, but when liberals are allowed to use the C-word, the N-word, etc., freely (I refrain from actually using them here simply because I’m not sure of the policy on this site) to attack female and Black conservatives, and when “racist” is bandied around to silence the slightest criticism of your Great Black Hope, truly the vitriole is on your side, it is clear where the strong language is.
            “Slut” cannot be used to describe a college co-ed who spends $3000 a year on contraceptives, but it can be used to describe a woman in a faithful marriage of over 20 years? “Oriental” is now “racist,” but referring to an Asiatic female conservative (Michelle Malkin) as a “banana”–yellow on the outside, white on the inside–is just fine? The N-word leveled at a Black street punk is the most horrible thing ever, yet liberals calling conservative Blacks, “Uncle Tom,” “Oreos,” and “house [N-words]” is within the pale? And referring to Whites as “crackers” and blanketly judging the race to be racist (e.g. Obama’s “typical White person” description of his grandmother) is acceptable, and no return-fire is allowed? Double-standards, PC codes, etc., all put the lie to your claim that language issues in our debates on caused by the Right.

          • Juggy Brodleteen

            I didn’t say they were “caused by the Right.” Re-read my remarks where I acknowledge both sides are complicit.

    • JMWinPR

      He left out a few, Ted Bundy,Ted Kaczyinski, Charles Manson, Christopher Dorner, David Berkowitz, Alferd Packer, Jeffrey Dahmer.
      Who did David Koresh kill, but should we add Janet Reno? She ordered the deaths. If you want to move to the international scene. We can add Castro (a true favorite among libs) Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, all left of center.

    • CQ

      Nobody said anything about “special rights.” Motive is not the issue – mental mind-set and attitude of mass murderers is.