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America Needs a White Republican President

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Admit it. You want a white Republican president again.

Now before you start feeling like you’re a racist, understand you are not.

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Wanting a white Republican president doesn’t make you racist, it just makes you American.

In the pre-black president era, criticizing the president was simply the American thing to do. An exercise of one’s First Amendment right. Criticism had nothing to do with color, because there had never been a black president, or at least one whom people recognized as black.

So to criticize the president meant that you didn’t like his policies.

The election of a recognized black president was not supposed to change anything. In fact, it was supposed to (1) ease any perceived racial tensions, and (2) allow the government to focus on legislating without race. So America would be more free than ever to discuss the issues.

Not the case. And that is why having a white Republican president is best for the country.

Consider that nobody is ever accused of being racist for disagreeing with white presidents. Mexicans disagreed with most white Republican presidents over America’s immigration policy. Many deranged Mexicans believe we should open the country up to them, some saying that much of America belongs to Mexico anyway. They are not called racists.

Liberal blacks have disagreed with most Republican presidents since Eisenhower, yet these blacks are not considered racists. In fact, when blacks had sanity and disagreed with the policies of racist white Democrat presidents, nobody accused black people of being racists.

Fighting for one’s civil rights was not racist then, nor is it racist now. Blacks (and Republicans) were on the side of righteousness, when they disagreed with the racist policies of Andrew Johnson, and adopted by every Democrat president since.

Never has a black person been called racist, because they didn’t like one of the white presidents’ policies. Blacks were just exercising their First Amendment rights to speak freely. Blacks have disagreed with policy positions of about every Republican president in the modern era, including those who have helped them.

Take Reagan for example. Reagan ushered in a veritable Renaissance for blacks, as Fox News showcased.

And the Reagan record?

African-American columnist Joseph Perkins has studied the effects of Reaganomics on black America. He found that, after the Reagan tax cuts gained traction, African-American unemployment fell from 19.5 percent in 1983 to 11.4 percent in 1989. Black-owned businesses saw income rise from $12.4 billion in 1982 to $18.1 billion in 1987—an annual average growth rate of 7.9 percent. The black middle class expanded by one-third during the Reagan years, from 3.6 million to 4.8 million.

Real Politics reports Obama’s statistics as follows:

Median family income for black Americans has declined a whopping 10.9 percent during the Obama administration…This decline does not include losses suffered during the financial crisis and the recession that followed, but it instead measures declines since June 2009, when the recession officially ended.

That’s not the only bad news for African-Americans. The poverty rate for blacks is now 25.8 percent. The black labor force participation rate, which rose throughout the 1980s and 1990s, has declined for the past decade and quite sharply under Obama to 61.4 percent. The black unemployment rate, according to Pew Research, stands at 13.4 percent. Among black, male, high school dropouts, PBS’ Paul Salmon reports, the unemployment rate is a staggering 95 percent.

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  • Nancy Pryor

    The next president needs to be someone without Narcissistic sociopath borderline personality disorder. Whoever they are personality traits need to be able to negotiate, be a leader, have a good work ethic, and speak.

    • sonoitabear

      Why bring GeeDumbYa into the argument?

      • Joe Kosior

        It’s A-holes like you that make real Americans want to rise up and forcebly take this country back before you morons destroy it completely. Hiding behind a comment where nobody knows who you are is typical of the cowardice shown by weirdos of your kind. You crawl out from under the rocks long enough to make assinine comments knowing that nobody will ever be able to find out who or what you are. Look over your shoulder every now and then because your day is coming.

        • hdtex

          Like YOU are a “real American”? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

          Impotent bitter troll….

        • JoeNCA

          There’s a reason “no real Scotsman” is called a logical fallacy.

          • Perrofelix

            That’s going to be waaay over his head.

      • Perrofelix

        Haha, I had the exact same thought! Though Nancy left out “dry drunk”

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

        I am not a Bush supporter- I think Bush had a classic case of ‘tin ear’- but to call Bush dumb or narcissistic is to display complete ignorance of the man. You are literally parroting the looniest of the looney left’s narratives.

    • Viola Martini

      I agree, race has nothing to do with a good work ethic. But let me just add, you’re a disgrace to the conservatives, Joe. It doesn’t matter for America whether the president is white, black or purple. What matters is what kind of values the president holds and what his/her policy solutions are. If you think race is tied to a person’s values, you’re just another racist like Al Sharpton who recently scolded Dr Ben Carson for not being with the blacks, i.e. a liberal. He thinks all blacks should be liberal, you think all good policy proposals should come out of white people. I don’t see any difference. You and Rev Al are both equally despicable human beings to me. You can still spew your nonsense and all, but just so you know, you’re an embarrassment to the conservative movement. You’d fit right in with the klan.

      • Nancy Pryor

        Viola Martini: My only qualification was not to be someone with a Narcissistic sociopath borderline personality. I made no qualification as to color. As far as I am concerned I am MAD AS HELL that qualified black people will have to overcome many obstacles now that Obama himself and only himself has created for a really qualified black person. Joe the Plumber is out of line bringing race into anything. I brought up different qualities needed thank you very much.

  • pixeloid

    I don’t want to see any Republican hold any kind of office ever again, no matter what color they are.

    • mattogilvie55

      We do no care what you want. We only care about what the human beings want.

      • Perrofelix

        A quick cull from wikipedia:

        Anthropologists Ashley Montagu and Floyd Matson famously wrote that dehumanization might well be considered “the fifth horseman of the apocalypse” because of the inestimable damage it has dealt to society. When people become things, the logic follows, they become dispensable – and any atrocity can be justified.

        • Malcom Treadway

          Millions of aborted babies can attest to that: call them zygotes or fetuses and they are “things” much easier disposed of.

          • Kent2012

            something that pixeloidhole and dudkembum like, where are the goats when you need them? oh and did I get pregnant ? that is all right kenyan boy and his ho democommies made murder on demand free….oh at least for me anyway….

          • SpiritOnParole

            Word soup

          • Jeff Furlington

            Lay off the cough syrup, or at least stay offline until you get your head together.

          • hdtex

            I thought we agreed yesterday we’d all be better served if you shot yourself in the face. Need to borrow my gun?

          • ThomasER916

            “I thought we agreed yesterday we’d all be better served if you shot yourself in the face. Need to borrow my gun?”

            You’re a d!ckless Libtard. You have no gun.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            How do you know that??? Did you break into his house and look for one???? I don’t have a gun…but I don’t need a gun…I prefer my sword. It will never jam or misfire on me…and with hard work…I can cut the barrel in half and your head clean off before you even have a chance to fire. That’s how I deal with unwanted guests…so please, Kent…do come to my house to determine my political leanings on whether or not I have a nutjob’s arsenal of mass-murdering rifles…

            The STUPID is strong with this one…and I’m sorry to say it can’t be fixed…well…guess I’ll have to toss him out and buy a NEW unit….lol

          • ThomasER916

            My GAWD you’re stupid.

            You’re such an idiot. Your anti-gun rant is so embarrassing. So yeah, you’re a d!ckless Libtard with no gun either. You probably have a Pop Tart chewed into the shape of a gun.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Where did I say I was anti-gun? And I’m actually PRO-handgun…I’m against the ownership of assault rifles…and I’m not stupid just because you don’t understand the way of the Samurai or the pride of the Swordsman. And I don’t eat pop tarts…I’m trying to NOT be overweight.

            My point (which went WAAAY over your head) was that you should not judge liberals as being completely anti-gun…many like just want RESPONSIBLE gun ownership to be ENFORCED.

            So, I think YOU are the idiot here.

          • ThomasER916

            “I’m pro-handgun”
            Man you’re stupid. Handguns are used in assassinations and killings more than the Media labeled “assault rifle.”

            “I prefer my Sword.”
            You’re such a fcking idiot!

          • Justin O’Reilly

            So that means you’re AGAINST handguns then?

            And I should ask you to cite your evidence in which a handgun was used in a mass shooting. And Faux News doesn’t count.

            And you still missed my point that us libs aren’t all “anti-gun.”

            And I think it shows your lack of understanding and intelligence when you can’t come up with a decent rebuttal other than some personal attack against my preferred means of home defence…maybe you’re threatened by the fact that I don’t need to kill someone from a distance but rather have the balls to look him in the eyes as I slice him in half. I don’t know…but how I protect me and mine is my business and you really have nothing to say about it…all you show is again, your lack of understanding of the pride of a swordsman and the way of a samurai. So I’m sorry that my clinging to honourable old ways is so stupid to you, unenlightened one. But I don’t expect you to be understanding as you were not raised in the same way I was. But do remember this: no weapon is unbeatable; just as one can rely too much on one’s sword, one can rely too much on one’s gun…so I hope you won’t make that mistake with me if you should choose to engage me in a fight (I hope not for that either, as I don’t really like to kill, but it’s done if necessary), because if you think that gun makes you invincible…you. Will. Lose.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

            The irony being that if one lives anywhere near places where your political policies have been in place would need a gun for sure- Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Baltimore, etc.

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Instead women should simply be incubators, right Malcom?

          • Malcom Treadway

            You hide your gender. You hide your name behind a ridiculous, juvenile, disparaging “name”; proof that a civil debate is beyond you. Now I don’t know if you’re an emasculated male, or a female. However, if that is how you view conception, then there are several ways to “not incubate”. Pity that your parents didn’t choose to employ some sort of safe sex.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

            Dishonest spin there, boy. Killing viable babies is just wrong, no matter which side of a pussy they’re on.

          • JessicaSideways

            You mean how anti-choicers try to take away a woman’s humanity when she becomes pregnant, taking away the rights to her body? Anti-choicers try to turn women’s bodies into things that don’t belong to them the moment they become pregnant.

          • hdtex

            Malcom should have been a handjob.

      • Kent2012

        could he support the “sex with goats thing”??

        • hdtex

          Why is it always about animals and children with you perverts on the right?

          • Kent2012

            that what the teachers that support kenyan boy want to teach in schools now that we have done away with any reasonable decorum in school and have this diversity thing. For instance forcing girls to wear a burka so they can “relate” and teaching that homosexuality is a “good thing”. these twits are communist wannabes that support your buddy, kenyan boy…perversion is on the forefront of the liberal agenda, not the guiding principles of Real Americans…

          • Guest

            Oh, and you wanna know who else loved the colour RED and was a devout Christian doing his “duty,” like you proclaim to be doing now? And HATED communists with a passion like you (I don’t like them either but c’mon)?

            That’s right! Adolf Hitler, your openly hated but secretly loved and admired darling of the extreme far right wing!

          • Kent2012

            we should have helped them both eliminate each other instead of so many Real Americans dying to preserve the future for so many coward communists….

          • Justin O’Reilly

            So when are you European motherf*ckers gonna start offing each other???

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

            My my, what a childish reaction to a devastating and revealing statistical comparison between your messiah and a real president.

    • Kent2012

      most communist twits are in agreement with you and most of the other democommie a$$wipes that voted for the likes of kenyan boy and that $lut from californication, nance and her ho buddy for nevada……of course their actions display how much disregard that they have for America and those that made it the great country it is……nothing more than a bunch of parasites wanting live off of other’s hard work……….

      • swan ronson

        I find you unpleasant.

        • Kent2012

          I find you uneducated about the world….

          • SLW

            I find you possibly retarded and unable to string together a coherent sentence. Shame, books are free at the library.

          • Kent2012

            twit

          • SLW

            I’m not the one who’s spent 6 hours on this site, judging from all your replies. I actually have things to do on a Friday night.

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Such a good response, SLoW. Good boy! Want a cracker?

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            … but socialism is bad, right?

          • SLW

            If your screen name expresses your viewpoint, then we’re probably political allies, which is unfortunate since your douchebaggery is so evident. I love public libraries. You should probably utilize them more as well.

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Sorry, SLW, sometimes my scatter-shot style of trolling hits the wrong targets.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

            Socialism has yet to work in America, unless you think Detroit is a success, and socialism is pretty much forbidden by this little nothing document known as the ‘constitution’.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

            Then how do you describe the millions of inner city Obama voters educated in your inner city schools?

          • Perrofelix

            I find you unable to make a single point without resorting to ad hominems, generalizations and vulgarities. Everywhere on this thread.

          • Imhotep40

            I find yo unable to use appropriate vocabulary to describe the preceding post. Didn’t your mother teach you to not use words you don’t know the definition of?

          • hdtex

            His mom was too busy turning tricks for 8-balls.

          • Perrofelix

            I have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you have a different definition for vulgarity (such as “$lut”), generalization (“most communist twits,” “their actions display,” Nothing more than a bunch of,”) or ad hominem (“democommie asswipes”)? Or is yours another case of that famous projection problem most a$$hole right-wing lunatics have? (See, I fit all 3 into that last sentence!)

          • Imhotep40

            Yeah, ezcept I didn’t see any of the words you proveded as examples in the comment you replied to originally. . . .

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Chances of anyone who just spewed the raging and ignorant crap you wrote either having finished high school or traveled widely are remote. Therefore, probably better to read and learn than post.

          • Kent2012

            scrutinize this clown….

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Pro-tip here, pal: When you’re as challenged as your “democommie’ and birther references indicate, don’t double down by posting drunk.

          • hdtex

            FINALLY! A three syllable word….used incorrectly, but used nonetheless!

          • hdtex

            I find you uneducated…..period.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            *snicker!* You…calling someone else “uneducated…” BWA HA HA HA HA HAAA!

      • John Richter

        No one wants to be forced to pay for insurance. Like president Bush said, everyone already has insurance, just use the emergency room. All providers have charity built into their fees for the uninsured. I will continue to refuse to buy insurance and pay the 95 dollar fine. I know libs are bad at math, but even they have to see what the better deal is. NO CR OR BUDGET UNTIL THE SOCIALIST OBUMMERCARE IS STRANGLED!!! Ted Cruz 2016+.

        • John Richter

          The most logical alternative to the trainwreck obunmmercare and its free.—

          “But the numbers are misleading, said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank. Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain’s health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

          “So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime,” Mr. Goodman said. “The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.
          “So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved.”

          • MOM

            As you stated, “a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank”. In this case, “right-leaning” equates Tea Party, climate change denying, extremist.

            People getting up in arms about not wanting the PPACA (AKA, ACA or Obamacare) often claim they don’t want the government interfering with their health care. Yet, they conveniently overlook the fact that those very health care providers they are so fond of keeping like they are, SUPPORT “Obamacare”. Yes, the American Medical Association, the National Physicians Alliance, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Association of American Medical Colleges, the American Cancer Society, the National Organization for Rare Diseases, the American Heart Association, Consumer Reports, and the March of Dimes… and many, many more, all support “Obamacare.”

            And as for you, John Richter, YOU, the proudly uninsured that you are, are part of the reason that health care is so expensive for the rest of us. We are tired of you not accepting personal responsibility for yourself and we are definitely tired of carrying the financial burdens of your ignorance.

        • MaggieMay

          You do realize that people using the emergency rooms for their health care costs YOU money, right?

        • nancycccslp

          Car insurance much? Yeah, I’m “forced” to pay for that….and the next time you are in the emergency room, hopefully screaming in pain due to kidney stones, just remember that your 6 hour wait is due to people “just using the emergency room.”

        • CentralScruntinizer

          Because the tax payers funding a $90,000 ICU visit that starts with an emergency room visit is much better than getting someone insured so they can pay $60 annual co-pays for lipitor, huh?

          Jesus, if you angry teabillies could do even basic math you might not be destroying the country.

          Bonus tip: Obamacare aka the ACA was initially drafter by the conservative heritage foundation in 1997 as a private sector alternative to what they expected to be a second run by Clinton at a single payer health care bill. Given that it’s all private insurance and health care providers, without even a public option, its the antithesis of socialism, wingding.

          • lee bell

            Central, You are asking Tea Baggers to do basic math. Have you lost your mind?

        • Perrofelix

          So it’s not “socialism” or “communism” if the government pays everyone’s bills when they go to the ER, because they don’t have funds or health insurance, is that it? It simply sounds like “from each according to his means to each according to his needs.”

      • hdtex

        Meth is an ugly drug huh Kent?

      • Perrofelix

        He told me elsewhere in this thread that he writes like this because he has to dumb down his arguments that otherwise would fly over everyone;s heads.

    • Josh Williams

      Yup. And after reading this article, make that double! Republicans in office lead to decline, disaster, and disgrace. Their main projects over the last few years have been to make abortion illegal and make voting as hard as possible for minorities, the elderly, and the poor. It’s really sad that anybody in America would vote for these racist asshats.

      • Michael Mlyniec

        What’s hard about having an ID to vote? What’s wrong with not wanting to kill babies? Sorry I’m confused by your logic.

        • Angrymike

          Come on, libtards have no logic….

        • swan ronson

          It’s fixing a problem that doesn’t exist in order to disenfranchise a group of people that don’t vote the way the Republican party wants them to vote. Voting is a right. We shouldn’t make it more difficult for people to do, unless there is clear evidence that voter fraud (not voter registration fraud) is taking place. That evidence doesn’t exist, or the Republican party would be singing it from the mountaintops.

          Voter ID laws exist to keep people from voting for Democrats. Period.

          • Keyser Söze

            Agreed!…a better solution would be, banning the democrats from loading
            buses to the gills with demo voters and delivering them to every
            precinct in the district.

          • MaggieMay

            You just hit the entire “voter ID laws” nail on the head. “Let’s stop Democrats from being better at getting people to vote”

          • Keyser Söze

            If the dem’s wish to vote 5 or 6 times in each precinct, so should we. Just walk in and say the Union sent me.

          • MOM

            That didn’t happen.

          • Perrofelix

            Go ahead, try it. See what happens.

          • Carabella1

            You’re an idiot.

          • Keyser Söze

            Except these numbers make you an even bigger idiot.

            “On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout.
            “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote
            cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county
            polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”

            The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say
            concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like
            that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”

            So maybe Allen West wasn’t crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot
            boxes and machines in this county. According to the report given the
            day after elections, Allen B. West garnered 52,625 votes in St.Lucie
            county and Patrick Murphy 65,896 votes.

            This is a problem that must be addressed right away. There is no
            reason that there should ever be more than 100% turnout. This county
            alone could have cost Allen West his election. Voter fraud is real, and
            it is time that this be solved.”

            http://townhall.com/tipsheet/heatherginsberg/2012/11/10/breaking_massive_voter_fraud_in_st_lucie_county_florida

          • Kemp Honeycutt

            I’ve voted dozens of times, and every single time – with no exceptions – when I have checked in they have marked my name as voting. If somebody showed up and claimed to be me, are they going to let him vote? Of course not. Your story just doesn’t pass the laugh test. Sorry. But of course, your source, Townhall, isn’t exactly the fount of honest reportage.

          • Keyser Söze

            “I’ve voted dozens of times,”…exactly, that is how the dem’s do it…now you are getting the picture.

            In 1960 I watched the shenanigans of the Chicago democrats help steal the
            election for JFK. The local news stations took copies of the registration lists to the cemetery and compared the names with the tombstones. SO! smart
            guy…who were those voters that pulled the level for people who died years before the election?

            Sorry to inform you, your knowledge of skullduggery is sorely lacking when it comes to fixing elections, I have watched the best of the best rig elections for
            decades. This may be all new to America, but not for those of us in Chicago. This is why none of us were shocked by an Obama win like the
            rest of the country.

          • Kemp Honeycutt

            You seriously make value judgments based on things you claim happened over 50 years ago? Your tin foil hats must be made of the extra heavy Reynolds foil!

          • Keyser Söze

            If you believe voter fraud has dissipated over the past 50 years, then you walk through life with a skull full of mush.

          • Kemp Honeycutt

            I don’t expect you to heed this because I suspect facts aren’t your stock in trade, but nearly every investigation of purported voter fraud over the past dozen years have turned up no fraud. Actual cases are quite rare . But as that doesn’t support your argument I’m certain you’ll ignore it because. ..facts. So let’s see what that fount of conservativism, Forbes magazine, discovered. Spoiler: voter fraud almost never happens. http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-a-massive-anti-democratic-deception/

          • Keyser Söze

            You have a nasty habit of not answering questions. One more time…who pulled the levers in 1960 Chicago for dead people?

            Here are a few more. Why are the democrats so adverse to cleansing the voter rolls of dead people and those folks who have moved away? Why do
            democrats want college students to vote on campus without any safeguard
            preventing them from ordering an absentee ballot from their home state?
            Why do democrats fight voter ID? Why do democrats fiddle with the
            Military vote when FEDX would be more than happy to handle those
            packages QUICKLY?

            I see you have never heard of the Stalin quote…”it is only important who counts the votes”.

            Voter fraud will never show up, because there is no way to show who voted.
            All of the so called investigations the lib’s tout as not proving
            anything are flawed by fact and definition. Unless those investigating
            are willing to go door to door and conduct interviews to see if the
            registered voters actually voted, you will never prove anything because
            you do not have an accurate vote count for comparison to the vote tally.
            If the voter turnout was actually 50%, but the vote tally showed a 60%
            participation…where did that extra 10% come from? You’ll never know,
            without voter ID, there is no way to say.

            Ballots should be customized with the registrants name and address printed on a cover-sheet. When they come in to vote, they show ID and sign the
            cover-sheet, the cover-sheet gets torn off leaving a paper trail of who
            actually showed up…the same for absentee, sign the cover-sheet and
            mail it back. If the utility companies can produce monthly billing
            statements with name and addresses, then so can the Board of Elections.
            But I am sure the dem’s would throw a conniption fit over that one
            because Joe Blow from Kokomo would be disenfranchised…poor baby.

          • Jarri Tos
          • Keyser Söze

            Snopes? Really? Go and do your own research.
            See the reply to Saint_Augustine

          • Saint_Augustine

            The reason there was a greater than 100% result was a two-page ballot. The first page had the candidates and an explanation of the first of 10 issues Florida voters could answer. The back of page 1 had three paragraphs describing more issues and both sides of page 2 were used for the remaining six issues. Now one would expect the machine count of a two-page ballot to be 200% of the number of voters unless unmarked page 2′s were fed through the scanner and therefore were not counted or voters didn’t put their page 2′s through the scanner because they didn’t vote on the issues. In a national election many voters show up to only vote for certain people and/or issues.

            I would say that in Allen West’s district about 59% of the voters didn’t bother to vote on the issues on page 2.

          • Keyser Söze

            So, let me get this straight, St Lucie County has 175,554 registered
            voters each getting two cards to a ballot. 175,554 x 2 equals 351,108
            total cards produced. Now we see a report of 70.65% voter turnout.
            70.65% x 175,554 equals 124,028 x 2 equals 248,056 cards issued. Cards
            returned equaled 247,383 leaving only 673 people failing to return their
            second card. Got it…an actuary would have a field day with those
            numbers especially when we look at the vote count.

            Presidential votes cast = 123,301 from 124,028 equals a 727 missing vote
            discrepancy. Interesting that many people failed to vote for a President.

            Senatorial votes cast = 119,035 from 124,028 equals a 4,993 missing vote discrepancy. Interesting that many people failed to vote for a Senator.

            Congressional votes cast = 118,649 from 124,028 equals a 5,379 missing vote discrepancy. Interesting that many people failed to vote for a Congressman, especially considering it was Allen West’s district.

            Source… http://www.tcpalm.com/election-results/st-lucie/2012/general/

            It also just happens, St Lucie County had a voter turnout 13.15% higher
            than the national average of 57.5% and a full 7.15% higher than the
            entire state of Florida. A 13.15% bump in turnout equals a 16,309 vote
            advantage, but yet 11,099 people failed to vote for the top three positions at the top of the ballot. At the 7.15% state bump, an advantage of 8,868 votes would have been had with the same 11,099 people failing to vote…a 2,231 missing vote discrepancy.

            As luck would have it, people are creatures of habit, so when we see that Obama beat Romney by 9,667 votes, one has to wonder if the creature of habit rule applies here and only the state average showed up to vote. If such
            is the case, then we have to wonder if those 8,868 votes were actually
            real or fraudulent. Add to that the 727 missing votes and Obama only has
            a 72 vote advantage…8,868+727=9,595+72=9,667. If the turnout was
            closer to the national average, that 72 vote advantage evaporates in a
            hurry. The national average would bring voter turnout down to 100,943, a
            23,085 voter overage. Not quite the 40% the article states, but just
            under 19%.

            SO!…looking at the numbers and all of the missing votes, it looks just like a Chicago election.

          • Saint_Augustine

            My neighbor voted in the last election and only voted for President, to negate my vote for Obama, he said. I imagine there were voters who didn’t vote for the President because they refused to vote for a Mormon or an African-American. Some people may have showed up to only vote on one or more issues and no candidates for office. All your calculations are for naught. West lost, for a reason – he’s not sane. Get over it.

          • Keyser Söze

            I don’t care who wins or loses and based on the political demographics of the county, West was never going to win it anyway.

            The only people who need to get over it now will be those Obama sycophants
            and minions who reelected him. When they sign those hefty health-care
            premium payment checks every month and watch their incomes evaporate
            before their eyes…they can keep the phrase “good & hard” floating
            in the back of their head.

            Enjoy

          • JoeNCA

            Absolutely. People leave entries blank all the time if they’re not sure how they’re going to vote for them, and the lower the office, the more likely it will be. You detailed exactly how it is in almost -every- district, not just Allen West’s.

            Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re actually out to get you.

          • JoeNCA

            Heaven forbid you fact check your own links.

            “This statement demonstrates a misunderstanding between the difference in “number of votes” cast and “number of cards” cast. The official election results from St. Lucie County, Florida, show, a total of 123,301 votes were cast for the office of President of the United States, but a total of 247,383 cards were cast because St. Lucie County used a two-page ballot (i.e., a ballot consisting of two cards), so every voter who returned both pages of his ballot cast two cards.”

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp

          • Kemp Honeycutt

            Which doesn’t and hasn’t happened. But it’s a fun story to tell repeatedly, isn’t it?

          • pixeloid

            You seem to have confused Democrats and Republicans.

          • Keyser Söze

            Hardly…on election day, the Union Halls of Chicago look like a caravan
            going on safari, ready to scoop up the voters and drive them from precinct to precinct.

          • [email protected]

            Someone trying to present an appearance of not being a racist would not choose such an unfortunate analogy of a caravan going on safari. You guys just can’t help yourselves, can you?

          • Keyser Söze

            Putting your ignorance on display is not conducive to a vibrant life.

            Here you can book an Arizona safari in the Sonoran Desert…dip-sh!t.

            http://www.safarijeeptours.com/sonoran_desert_tours.php

          • 914

            Ha ha ha ha

            How does having an ID keep you from voting for who you choose?

        • Josh Williams

          The whole point of the stringent voter ID laws is to make voting as hard as possible for minorities, the elderly, and the poor. The courts have affirmed this–voter ID has been thrown out on multiple occasions. Historically, a government issued photo ID hasn’t been required to vote. Voter fraud is not a real issue in the U.S., and to the very small extent that it is, it is almost all absentee voter fraud, which voter ID laws do nothing to combat.

          You will remember the famous video clip of the Republican Governor of Pennsylvania proudly proclaiming “voter ID is going to allow Romney to win the great state of Pennsylvania.” It’s a cynical ploy designed to keep the very poor out of the voting booth–the process you have to go through to get the government picture ID is cumbersome and expensive if you don’t have all the documentation.

          The good thing is in this country we have something called the Department of Justice which oversees the states and sues them when they try to encroach on minority rights, as Republican states so frequently tend to do.

          Voter ID, similar to the “ACORN” scandal, is another example of Republicans living on a completely different planet from the rest of us. Anyone who has looked at the facts, the numbers, the actual issues surrounding possible voter fraud and stringent voter ID laws know these basic truths. ACORN was defunded by Republicans out of spite even though it was shown in the 2008 election that the only fraud that did happen happened on the part of some Republican voter registration firms. But the right wing is very religious in nature–they are trained to be deathly afraid of some imaginary threat, while the real threat (wages, working rights, and loss of any kind of basic government services like education and scientific progress) is hitting the constituencies in the face. They are so petrified of the imaginary terror they don’t even flinch.

        • Kemp Honeycutt

          Voter fraud at the polls is virtually non-existent. People just don’t show up and pretend to be somebody else. It doesn’t happen. However, what DOES happen is fraud involving absentee and mail-in ballots. Why don’t the Republicans go after that problem? Because the demographics of voters who vote by mail skew heavily toward the GOP.

        • hdtex

          What’s wrong with fascism? Michael your momma should have spit or swallowed.

          • Michael Mlyniec

            I’m sorry, where was what I said fascism? hdtex, I’m glad you use big words behind your little screen.

          • hdtex

            Google them….maybe you could build a vocabulary.

          • Michael Mlyniec

            Sure thing libtard. Go finish smoking your bong and then come back when you’re done with insults and down to have a rational discussion.

        • JessicaSideways

          What’s this about killing babies? Wow, the paranoia is strong with this one…

      • IHateLibs

        You people havin a Double Bowl of Stupid this Morning ??

        • Ian Henry

          So a well reasoned argument by Mr. Williams is met with personal attacks rather than any attempt at a counterpoint. And you wonder why the Republicans are a dying breed?

    • jackeyb

      Would love to see the moderate Republican of old return. Ike, even Nixon minus Watergate scandal. The Teabaggers and Christian right are the ones will never vote into office. The Christian right has ruined the party

      • pixeloid

        I don’t think we’ll see those guys again. They’ve gerrymandered themselves out of existence.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002348498710 Tim Jonson

      Because, for example, you weren’t able to comprehend the totally embarrassing statistical comparison between Reagan and Obama. In fact, you doubled down by commenting, and embarrassed yourself.

  • Rich Helm

    No, I want a Constitution respecting, limited gov’t conservative Republican president NO MATTER WHAT COLOR OR SEX!! NO MORE progressively unAmerican commie Leftist DEMONRATS!

    • Bonnie Somer

      AMEN to that

    • Cuppa

      Quick question, who was the last Republican president to “respect” the Constitution?

      • WJM51

        Ike. He was also the last DECENT republican.

        • Cuppa

          There was all that crap in Iran and Guatemala he was up to. Not sure where that stands on Constitutional terms.

    • WJM51

      You wouldn’t know a communist if one came up, told you he was one and then kicked you right in the crotch. If you think that Obama is a leftist of ANY kind, you are just as delusional as the rest of the goddamned right wing. Including the MORON who wrote this foolish article. Faux Noise has clearly done it’s job on you.

      • Rich Helm

        Thanks for contributing by saying absolutely NOTHING intelligent or useful.

  • ted

    You’re an idiot. Your “article violates your own comment guidelines.

    • Cuppa

      Ha ha! Like it

  • tinkerblue

    Joe, I wish you would go crawl back in the hole you crawled out of. Plumbing is what you should go back to, or rather, what you should actually try to accomplish since you were never really a certified plumber.

    I don’t want a Republican of ANY color to ever hold the office of the Presidency ever again. The last 30 years has seen the rise of conservatism and the decline of America, and the responsibility for that decline lies in the Republican’s hands.

    And really? “Back when blacks were sane…”? Really? “Many deranged Mexicans…”? Really?

    And you wonder why they don’t vote for your party.

    • Anna Fabian

      Well if life was so bad under the gop…what ii could go on and on but i have more important things to do!n the hell do you call what we have endured under this anti american socialist?
      I guess you think it’s great, huh.
      Loss of business, lack of god, lack of morals, lack of any kind of leadership of any kind.
      loads of scandals, just overlook those too.
      they were’nt really real to the parents or families of the soldiers and ambassor that were left defenless in benghazi.
      That really was not real the irs targeting consertatives and in some cases raiding their businesses and reaking havock on them.
      or auditing dr. Ben carson after he spoke out on how bad obamacare is for our country.
      arms to the muslim britherhood in egypt and syria to kill innocent christians…no not real!
      There are so many more but i hsve other things to do.
      Get your head out of the sand and try investigating exactually what is going on in this corrupt admin.
      I would vote for a drug dealer before i would vote democrat.
      at least the drug dealer knows how to run a business, inlike what we have now!
      have a great day! :-)

      • bobby

        I have seen alot of crazy remarks in my time but you take the prize. You said I have more important things to do, but went on and on about a bunch of no issues. I would like to know what you have endured under this administration. Let me tell you what I have endured. Under Bush I lost thousands in my 401K. Under Obama the Dow went from 6500 in March of 2009 to over 15000 today, I got my thousands back and then some. Under Bush we were attack on 911, 3000 Americans lost their lives. Under Obama we have been kept safe, the NRA is the only terrorist group we have in this Country. Under Bush we were losing 100,000 jobs a month in the private sector, under Obama we have had 47 months of positive private sector job growth, that amounts to over 7.4 million jobs. Under Bush the auto industry was dead, Obama gave it CPR and now they are operating on all cylinders. Under Bush we went into two wars, not paid for and the Iraq war was sold to the American people based on lies, 4500 American died there, countless others will carry the scars of war for the rest of their lives. Under Bush we had a tax cut for his rich friends, not paid for, the leading cause for the financial meltdown. Under Bush a drug program, not paid for. There are no scandals except those created on web sites like this one and others or by Rush, Beck, Hannity, Palin and the list goes on. An example was the IRS, that was started by a Republican and the target was all new organizations taking a tax exempt status, the Tea Party was starting groups up all over at a 10-1 rate compared to other groups, of course it may appears they were being targeted, they were not. If any of these claims were valid you have a Republican watch dog called Congressman ISSA to investigate and bring charges, has he done that, no, because all these so call scandals are made up. The reason Benghazi was not pursued is because the President ask for more funds to add security to our embassies around the world, that was 6 months prior to that incident, the Republican Congress would not approve the funding, that is why Issa is not pursuing the Benghazi incident, it would make him and the Republican party look stupid. Most of the benifits of The Affordable Healthcare Act has been working for some time, that would include pre-existing conditions, no cap for life time max, keeping your kids on until 26. Just make a note, this healthcare reform package is a Republican plan, Romney put it though when he was Governor of MA, the Heritage Foundation endorsed it, it was not a problem until Obama jumped on board, if this were a true Democratic plan, it would be a single payer. People like you are a mouth piece for the extreme right wing of the Republican party, do you really know what you are against, that would be women, children, workers, middle class, the poor, that would be 98% of America, you are supporting 2% of the people in this Country, that is what I would call Anti-American. You would rather see a drug dealer be President, the way you are talking crazy I am thinking that could be your supplier.

        • Joe Kosior

          Not even George Bush, as smart a man as he is, could undo the damage Bill Clinton did to this economy. That’s why he clobbered Al, the hanging chadsman, Gore. We needed GW then and we need another republican now to get us out of what the current resident of the white house is trying, because of fools like you, to do to this great country. Good luck living in your fantasy world because if the marxist is successful in destroying America, you’ll be one of the numbsculls wondering what happened.

          • hdtex

            BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

            George Bush….”SMART”!

            BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

            “Clinton’s damage to the economy”!

            BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

            We need another Refuglican in office like we need another idiot like you to keep breathing.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Yes a man, who by the way, was the First President EVER to have a Masters Degree!

          • Perrofelix

            If correct, that’s an interesting fact. I thought it was people on the right who are skeptical of “left wing indoctrination” in universities and feel that the Dep’t of Education needs to be defunded so we can all go to the Creationist Museum or the nearest taxpayer/voucher-funded High School of Scientology to learn about how the earth is 6000 years old and global warming is not happening.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Get real.

          • Perrofelix

            Yes sorry, there is no High School of Scientology as I know of YET. Though Jindal’s constituents did get spooked when an Islamic, religious school was found to qualify for vouchers the way the law was written. Everything else is accurate. Google “Defund the Department of Education” and you will fund countless right-wing sites, groups and articles pushing for it. Also using Google, you can easily find info about the Creationist Museum where humans walk alongside dinosaurs, You can find right-wingers who believe the earth is 6000 years old and get offended when their public schools say otherwise, and plenty of Congressional climate change deniers (mostly TEA partiers, of course). Google “university brainwashing” for my first point.

            I am completely real.

          • Wesley Nelson

            Dr. Clinton has a PHD from Oxford, at Cambridge, the most prestigious college in the world. Requirements for a PHD, include having your work published, a Masters Degree, 2 years of post grad work in your chosen area of expertise, and many other requirements that are beyond your comprehension level.

          • Wesley Nelson

            George Bush public records indicate he just barely passed many of his courses. He was a member of Skull and Bones, famous for their patronage of other well healed conservatives. I expect that To this guy college was a frat party who only passed his courses by the influence his patrons inflicted on his professors. How can you like this sub-human, I mean you are a vet like me, and he was mainly concerned about avoiding service.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Still even with your background it does not mater. He still is the first President to have been elected who had a Masters Degree. Have we seen ANY information on President Obama’s education record, of course not, he had all of them SEALED, as if he was hiding something, or was a very poor student. I do not know which, and neither do you, because he had them sealed. Great job of vetting this guy.

          • Mike Brown

            Moron…let me break this down for you.
            1. A law degree pretty much trumps Bush’s bullshit MBA. Infact I would argue most advanced degree’s trump MBA’s as they are a dime a dozen.
            2. President Obama’s education record is just as available as Bushes.
            3. The fact that President Obama was elected as editor of the Harvard Law review seems to be lost on your dumb-ass. Go look it up before you cast doubt upon the intellect of Mr. Obama.
            4. The fact that your dumb, sill-ass truelly beleives that GW even remotely approaches Mr. Obama w/r to intellect…..LOL…why are conservatives always down to a man such slack-jawed imbeciles ?

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Mr Brown, if that is your name. You need to check to see what information is available for this jackass we have as a president right now.
            1. Why would anyone seal up his education documents? Because he is HIDING something!!!
            2. No it is NOT available to do any research on. His Records are sealed.
            3. He may have been elected to the Harvard Law Review. So WHAT? You ignore the fact that he was forced by the Illinois Bar Association to give up his Law License to practice law. There is a improper deed somewhere there. Lawyers don’t just give up their licence to practice law over a parking ticket.
            4. I could say the exact same thing about your LIBERAL BS you are spouting in here. GET A LIFE and stay out of mine.

          • LixBugz

            Hey retard….nothing is “sealed by court order”. He doesn’t have to reveal his records. MANY other presidents haven’t revealed their records. So piss you inbred trash.

            http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Oh yes it is sealed by court order he spent almost 1 million dollars to seal them.

          • my20cents

            Come on, don’t be a liar.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Ok, If you want to call me a liar. Then prove to me that you can go online, find those documents, provide me with the website to download them. Then and only then will I apologize, and say that I was wrong.
            But, I am telling you flat out that you will not find any of his documents anywhere. He had them sealed. The documents, his grades, his enrollment into any college or university, even his High School records are all sealed. If they were not, after 5 years of looking for any one of them, I have not been able to find them. The only documents that I have been able to find have been proven to be fraudulent. Show me the proof and I will shut up. But, until you do, I am telling the truth.

          • my20cents

            Now your story has changed, you can not find records. Of course, the schools have his records and they are protected unless you can come up with a valid reason to see them then they will not be released to the public. All school records are treated that way, nothing special about the presidents. Sure, you may have looked and looked, great, you will never find them, of course. Research the efforts of the worst lawyer in the world, Orly Taitz and you will learn all about the confidentiality of school records. It cost her 4k dollars in sanctions for her schooling, you get it for free

            So stating that Obama sealed his records is a flat out lie. Let me give you a bit of advice, do not believe everything on the internet. Do not let your hate for president Obama cloud yor good judgment and common sense,

          • Kent2012

            many have looked in order to publish that magician’s trail from kenya through indonesia and then somehow he was born again in Hawaii and then shows up enrolled at Columbia as a “foreign student”….kenyan boy still does not have the true credentials to be president under the guidelines of the constitution, there is no reference to it being acceptable to have an islamy clown from kenya as your father…..

          • WJM51

            Moron. Go online and try to find YOUR OWN records. Please. I’ll wait. Know what? THEY AREN’T THERE! Why the hell should anyone else’s, including the president’s be online? If YOURS aren’t then why should his be?

            Honestly, you Faux Noise lovers just drive me nuts. They went to court to verify that they have a “right” to LIE to you, they are PROVEN to be liars, and you still believe everything hook, line, and sinker. You are absolutely pathetic.

          • lee bell

            MSGT, You obviously don’t have a college transcript or you would know that those transcripts are private.

          • Kent2012

            up yours twit

          • Kent2012

            this page has a serious infection of communists and parasites…..

          • Perrofelix

            “Hey! Where did my echo chamber go?”

          • NotYou

            The law license thing has been debunked a zillion times. If you care to learn the facts rather than zone out on the emotions of it all, here’s the link: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp.

          • hdtex

            Poor old Gomer Pyle….never could get a real job. Now he rails against the very gubbmint he supposedly protected. ity we can’t cut your bennies off.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            If you call 25 years of Military service NOT a real job , I guess you can say it all you want. I protected your Right to do so. But, if you think that the military is not a real job, YOU ARE WRONG. You probably could not even get in or stand the pressures of it once you were in. I am glad for the opportunity to allow you to be a JERK. Without the military you would be speaking German or Japanese. Good luck with that ACA watch how much you will have to be forced to pay for it.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            You know what, if you loose an argument all you do know how to do is blast out insults… very typical of a left-wing Democrat. If you can’t possibly win an arguement you insult. Yes, I could have had a better paying job, but I felt it was my duty as President John F. Kennedy asked all of us to do. By the way, he was the last of the good Democrats. All since him have just brought the Party down to the level of school yard bullies.

          • Kent2012

            kenyan boy is a diaper head loving, communist. his only job “professor”? There are no public records that have been published suggesting where his college studies start, we know where he “supposedly” acquired his LLB, but his modesty caused him to feel the need to seal those records. The highest office in the land has some special requirements and one of them has something to do with not having a nappy headed clown islamy as your father…the african pretender has a cheer leading group of $luts in the media that took every opportunity to slam George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, but they are so cowardly that they will not even question this pimp’$ involvement in directing the Benghazi debacle and his cowardice in that mess. That is to be expected from kenyan clowns and he is well supported by ignorant clowns right here in the Great USA, because cowards recognize other cowards and they feel an affinity for their messiah…….

          • Kandee MusicLvr

            He is a Constitutional lawyer, too.

          • Kent2012

            that is good, he has trashed the constitution on a number of occasions and all the democommies in the house and senate set there like the puppets that they are and do not carry out their constitutional abilities to hold the executive branch to task for breech of conduct…of course it seems well planned….

          • Perrofelix

            I’ll just add that even Woodrow Wilson obtained his doctorate in history and poli sci from Johns Hopkins a century before GWB was upon the throne. Abe Lincoln famously was a lawyer and therefore had a law degree. Maybe the statistic you are looking for is the first president with an MBA, not the first with a Master’s degree.

          • koolkat_1960

            LOL a masters degree. BFD. Only a goob would be impressed by that.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Probably more than you have. Go find a JOB!

          • bluejacket472

            Part time! Thanks ACA!

          • Kent2012

            and the trashed economy from all the great things kenyan boy and the democommies are doing….Oh wait just a cotton pickin moment now, they have been helping the economy, well if you live in the middle east or africa anyway…

          • bluejacket472

            Maybe 20 trillion in the negative by 2016?

          • Kent2012

            a goob like you?

          • koolkat_1960

            Impressive response, Cletus.

          • Kent2012

            I thought that you would like it…..kind of infantile like your great comment….

          • koolkat_1960

            Thanks, dingdong.

          • Kent2012

            your welcome twit

          • Haverfordguy

            Dear MSGT, go back to school. W got a gentleman’s MBA alright but just off the top of my head, Wilson, Clinton, Obama all had Doctorates (J.D.) In fact, Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, Wilson was President of Princeton and Obama was editor of the Harvard Law Review, to which students are not even invited unless they are among the best in their class. Fortunately, thanks to tiresome ranters longing for an imaginary antebellum America, this trend of terminal degree holders will no doubt continue under the second President Clinton, a graduate of Yale Law likely to be elected because of our citizenry’s disgust at the factually disprovable nonsense propagated by uninformed people such as the person who writes under your name.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            You are ridiculous and NOT factual. You need an edumication.

          • Kent2012

            clinton was a draft dodger, the rhodes scholar part came due to his being a coward…..

          • cjmarley

            …and Daddy Bush helped keep Baby Bush out of it too

          • Kent2012

            and who was that last democommie pres that bothered to serve his country? check the date of GWB service and training schedule and you just might see that after completing most of his training units were coming home from Nam, and the continued effort at fighting the communists was carried on with individual replacements and transfers from units going home if your tour was not up….then of course the democommies decided that our allies no longer required our help and the stopped the air support…..scum then and scum now as they support this pimp in the WH

          • cjmarley

            Well let’s see…he joined the Guard in 1968…he graduated in 1970. Went on to do additional training to be a fighter pilot but in 1972 he lost his pilot’s authorization due to failure to meet Air Force requirements (this at a time when there was intense bombing taking place in Hanoi and other northern cities. The next year he was discharged from the guard and discharged from the reserves in 1974. It was found later during an investigation that Bush did NOT fulfill his required obligations during his service and actually could have been ordered to active duty because of that. I wouldn’t call him a bastion of military service.

          • FaramarzFathi

            cjmarley:
            Would you happen to be talking about that dyslexic from Crawford, TX whom upon departures from the town in 2000 they put up signs saying an idiot is missing.
            Would you?
            Faramarz Fathi

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Excuses, excuses…

          • WJM51

            And W went AWOL rather than show up for a DRUG TEST. You want to keep going on who has ANY honor or decency? You boy LOSES. IN fact, damn near ALL of your boys lose.

          • Kent2012

            oh I forgot only democommie twits have access to the truth, mostly on kenyan boy’s web page and the huffy puffy posty……

          • Kent2012

            and he was a pilot that wore the uniform of his country, which country did kenyan boy serve, or for that matter how about old blow J clintony…

          • Tokopol

            Obama earned a JD from Harvard Law School—that’s a doctoral degree. You know, BEYOND a masters degree?

          • Kent2012

            you mean like that would be hero johnny boy kerrymus…..the state twit???

          • Cuppa

            C plus Augustus was a legacy.

          • JessicaSideways

            I wonder how much Pappy Bush had to pay to get his special needs offspring into and through Yale…

          • Kent2012

            you should do yourself, and all sane Americans, a favor and go swimming in a deep lake with some lead boots on….

          • hdtex

            you should do yourself, and all sane Americans a favor, and shoot yourself in the face.

          • Kent2012

            buzz off troll clown….your mother is calling you….

          • hdtex

            F@ck you Kent….actually it’s your daddy calling me. He wants more of my c@ck up his ass.

          • Kent2012

            hang tough twit, you can get your hot dog cut off and a new taco made for free with kenyan boy care and then all the free midol and tampons you will ever need …..

          • hdtex

            Is that your plan Kent? Seeing as you’re such a little c@nt already….
            Your dad likes my c@ck too much……I want to keep that little bitch happy.

          • Kent2012

            you bet queenie, kenyan boy will invite you to the WH for next homo party….

          • hdtex

            Good one….Makes you hard just thinking about it huh?

          • FaramarzFathi

            Wouldn’t that be waste of a bullet one might ask!
            Faramarz Fathi

          • rustywheeler

            Ow, my sides.

          • Perrofelix

            Joe, this is satire, right? A bizarro universe world where George Bush is smart, where the 2000 election was a “clobbering” rather than one in which the loser actually got the most popular votes, and where President Obama is a Marxist.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Popular vote do not count in this Republic. It is the Electoral College that is where it really counts. Learn why that is so and then you may be more informed.

          • Perrofelix

            I understand that. I am not saying the popular vote is how elections are decided in this country. I simply said that you can’t call such a narrow election a “clobbering”. I demonstrate/remind how narrow the election was by mentioning the popular vote, but I can also bring up the Bush V. Gore court case and the fact that the official outcome was in doubt for several days. All of this shows that calling the 2000 election a “clobbering” is a rewrite of history.

            I do understand that people on the right such as you like to infantilize their opponents though.

          • Kent2012

            it is not difficult to do…infantilizing that is..and that court case, it was brought by that co-conspirator of billy “the traitor” clintony (remember the chinkee campaign contribution thing, oh and the impeachment too) It had nothing to do with the kind of voting fraud that went on in 2012, but not too worry….that $lut who was married to the traitor will run for senior ho in 2016….

          • Perrofelix

            Yes, infantilizing rather than arguing a point is rather a reflex action, isn’t it? Go ahead, keep undermining Joe’s point. A recap: This article’s premise is that Republicans are not racist, they just keep getting called that whenever they try to criticize the President on valid policy grounds. Therefore, having a nice white (Republican) president would completely sidestep the issue..

            Then down here you are using “chinkee”… and if your reaction to Hillary is to say “senior ho” and “$lut,” then you are going to be the catalyst for his article in 2018 when he says we all just need a male president because no one can criticize Hillary without being called a sexist.

          • Kent2012

            arguing in the “classical” sense seems to go right over the heads of the propagandized welfare crowd and makes no difference to the worthless government unions….using names and disrespecting others works with those nit wits because that is the level they operate on…..doing the John mcshame trick of following the “high road” totally bypasses the intellectual level of the adversaries of capitalism, free speech, the second amendment, and the operational effectiveness of the American form of “balanced” government..oh and I am very biased, I have an intense hatred for communists and any clowns that want to turn this country into another backwater……

          • Perrofelix

            If you have an intense hatred for clowns that want to turn this country into another backwater, then you should REALLY hate this thing called the “TEA Party.”

            I’m so impressed that your smart, classical arguments are so over everyone;’s heads that you have to dumb yourself down to “chinkee,” senior ho, $lut, “libtard,” and jokes about sex-change operations.

          • Kent2012

            you need a sex change operation….

          • Perrofelix

            Learn the different between gay and transgender please.

          • Kent2012

            why?

          • Justin O’Reilly

            No…that’s the level that YOU operate on, because intelligent debate is completely out of your scope of reasoning. You show just how far out of your depth and how far out of your league you truly are with EVERY post you put on this page…

          • koolkat_1960

            Of course popular vote still counts. Do you think Electors just randomly show up? DUH

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Do you have any idea how the Electoral College even works? They can vote the way the popular vote goes, but they are NOT prescribed by law to do that..They can vote any way the feel like voting. The popular vote DOES NOT elect the President or the Vice-President. Go back to school or better yet look up the Electoral College here online. You need an education.

          • koolkat_1960

            Yes, you blithering idiot, I know the Electors don’t “have” to vote for who the popular vote says they should vote for, but only in a very few cases have their been faithless Electors and never when it’s made any difference. But you’re probably one of those clowns who don’t think this great country is a democracy.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Why don’t you go find a knothole to screw? I don’t need or want you to screw me. Find a JOB!

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Where in the Constitution does it say this is a Democracy? NO WHERE! It is a Constitutional Republic. Get an education!

          • the_rebel_lion

            All of your drivel on this show that you are seriously out of touch with reality. You need to seek immediate help – from a veterinarian because you certainly are not human – besides, vets are the only ones who can treat JACK-ASSES!!!

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            You are a jackass period. You liberal idiot. This country is doing poorly because of the way that you think. That’s OK Obama Care will take care of that. You will be as poor as your mind is now. Just wait and see!

          • the_rebel_lion

            Is that all you’ve got mr retired jackass?? I doubt you were ever in the military at all – the U.S. Air Force has INTELLIGENT individuals serving in it’s ranks – your “intelligence” is like Death Valley – barren… BTW, how are you gonna like it when your “retirement” and “benefits” (if you really have any) are cut off by your republiKKKan fellow jackasses who you probably support?? Yes, you really are a sick puppy! But your ignorance is hilarious!! http://www.stripes.com/va-secretary-if-shutdown-lasts-until-nov-1-benefits-cease-for-5-2-million-veterans-1.246135

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Well, if you like I can give you my address and we can talk face to face and let’s see what happens. You don’t scare me at all. Yes, I just retired in 2007 after almost 25 years in the Air Force TACP. I really doubt if you even have a clue what that is. All I know is I have been shot at and shot back. The ones that shot at me are in the desert sands to this day. So, if you doubt who and what I am BRING IT ON you wimp. I can tell you one thing, You call yourself a rebel… you have no idea. Maybe you should look up what I did for a living. It will tell you all of the easy things I have had to do for this country. It’s not even half of it. Look up what a TACP is and shut the F up..

          • Justin O’Reilly

            So, Mr. “I’ll defend your first Amendment Rights” resorts to threats of violence in order to silence an opposing viewpoint…this is the thing I was talking about when I say that I will NOT stand for forcing a viewpoint down someone’s throat…MIGHT does NOT make RIGHT…and I don’t think he was trying to scare you….but you ain’t so scary yourself, dude. I respect that you served this nation, but this is not the answer…if you don’t feel like supporting free speech, you should NOT have put that uniform on, if indeed you have actually served.

          • Retired MSGT USAF
          • Justin O’Reilly

            Did you not know, sir that in most instances a republic IS a democracy? A “republic” WITHOUT a democracy is not a republic at all, but a DICTATORSHIP. Our nation was founded as a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC! Read a history book. I’m surprised that our very own armed forces don’t know that much about how our system of government works…and also, I’m ASHAMED.

          • Charles Saeger

            Twenty-nine states and DC have laws on the books that punish faithless electors. So yes, they ARE ordered by law to vote according to the popular vote in the state.

          • bluejacket472

            The new vote that counts is the tampered voting machine, and having the IRS pursue a legal PAC. If that truth angers some, please feel free to down rave this.

          • Perrofelix

            Too bad for Romney that the gap was large enough that Diebold shenanigans could not bridge it.

          • Cuppa

            In that election it was the Supreme Court whose vote was the only that counted.

          • Kent2012

            communist twit$ are not interested in learning, only in mouthing platitude from the “golden one”……while he acts in a manner, then points at the opposing party and accuses them of being guilty of the very act he is committing. Psychiatrists label that behavior as “projection”…..

          • WJM51

            That’s a laugh. The right are the MASTERS of projection. If there is ANYTHING they do and haven’t blamed on someone else, it’s only because they haven’t thought of it yet. If there is projection going on ANYWHERE it’s on the right.

          • Kent2012

            just think now with free healthcare you can get your taco repaired or completely replace with a new one…and if you are tired of your hot dog you can get a taco installed….take two midal and call in the a.m.

          • WJM51

            Too bad you don’t have a clue of how the English language works. You’re delusional and need help. LOTS of it.

          • oldgoatee

            Nope, it’s a nightmare universe for the likes of you…

          • Perrofelix

            Yes. Good thing it’s an *alternate* universe that exists only in Joe Kosior’s mind (and yours I guess).

          • JoeNCA

            Bill Clinton ended his presidency with the largest continuous expansion of the economy in history.

            George W. Bush ended his presidency with the largest economic collapse since the Great Depression.

            But go on, keep saying it’s all the Dems fault.

          • oldgoatee

            Yep, dotcoms and paper-shuffling replacing making cars, trucks, tractors and the things we need to actually come out on top…

          • JoeNCA

            Republicans do hate the 21st century, don’t they? I guess having the entire world’s knowledge at my finger tips in seconds just doesn’t count as having value to you, does it?

          • oldgoatee

            You go ahead and order something online. How’s it going to get to your house, a blimp???

          • Perrofelix

            USPS is running, since it is semi-privatized. But if you think the internet is only good for a shopping opportunity, well then you miss the point.

          • JoeNCA

            So what are you typing this on again?

          • oldgoatee

            Microsoft was founded during the Ford Administration and had its IPO during the Reagan Administration. So there! However, Girls Gone Wild was founded under Clinton…and often found under Clinton!

          • JoeNCA

            Which means what exactly?

          • Perrofelix

            Good thing that against Republican wishes we didn’t let Detroit’s auto industry die then, right?

          • oldgoatee

            No, we just had people from Illinois counting the number of pickups we had on our lot as opposed to hybrids and then ordering us closed even though we were selling plenty!

          • Kent2012

            communists are not influenced by facts, these parasites on this page are only interested in stealing from those that build lives and fortunes and provide jobs for others and support the community….these twit$ listened as kenyan boy strode up to the mike and said that Chrysler “did not have a successful product lineup”….the welfare rats believed that……

          • shawn_von_socialist

            you are just a confederate who is mad that karl marx supported the union in smashing the south

            karl marx is more american than any confederate ever-was

          • Kent2012

            does lunacy run in your family or is it confined solely to you??

          • shawn_von_socialist

            lets see the people who fund the teaparty earned their money in stalinist russia the koch daddy-

            and you teatards have the balls too call obama a communist -when the family which was best friends with stalin funds the libertarian movement

            i am a redneck-socialist who roars at laughter at you tea-tards

          • Kent2012

            you are twit

          • lee bell

            I hope your family did the world a favor and decided not to bring anymore idiots into the world.

          • Kent2012

            now with kenyan boy care you can get your taco fixed for free…..

          • Perrofelix

            Because Chrysler was doing so well in sales…

          • Kent2012

            I suppose that you drive around blindfolded, the chrysler product lineup is everywhere and in great numbers….but do not let those facts alter your judgement, oh and by the way Generous Motors and Chrysler should have gone through restructuring if that was the best alternative, does the name Lee Iacocca ring any bells ? probably not he was a Ford exec that took over Mopar and used a government loan to rebuild the company and then paid the loan back, unlike the GM joke…..

          • JessicaSideways

            I know, you seem to be uninfluenced by the facts and willing to just eat up the right wing propaganda.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            I find it sad and idiotic the things that pass for “facts” to brainfarts like you…

          • Perrofelix

            Are you saying you ran a car dealership and Obama sent his “thugs” to close it down? Your statement really needs more context.

          • Kent2012

            probably, of course you only believe selective propaganda….

          • oldgoatee

            I ran a car dealership in Hillsboro, TX, between Dallas and Waco and hardly a tourist-intensive area. This man driving a Caravan with Illinois plates was driving around our lot counting the types of vehicles we had in inventory. Two months later we were closed by Chrysler even though we were profitable…

          • Kent2012

            yes and 85% of GM will soon be “overseas” and soon Fiat will do to Chrysler the same thing they did to Allis Challmers…..the government’s only success story when meddling in business is Conrail…

          • Perrofelix

            That’s free trade agreements for ya. Both parties are in favor of them, and then we wonder why our manufacturing base can’t compete with kids making shoes for 5 cents an hour! NAFTA under Clinton, CAFTA under Bush and a bunch of other agreements in between.

          • Kent2012

            we are dealing with parasites that love scum like clintony and the current clown, the Benghazi bungler….

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            You forget to understand what happened there. It was a DotCom Bubble that collapsed and sent us into a recession. He did help somewhat after he was forced to help getting Government finances in line when the Speaker of the House forced the issue. That was when the economy actually got moving in a meaningful way.

          • bluejacket472

            It’s not going to be good for anybody to be able to say “I told you so” at the close of THIS administration and what the ‘economy’ (whatever’s left of it) will look like.
            You’re not going to convince anybody this late in the game that the Titanic is going to sink.

          • Kent2012

            disinformation is a very effective tool and the communists have used it here in our country very well and have done so since the late 1920s. kenyan boy is a student of Lenin….

          • Perrofelix

            Ah yes, “kenyan boy” again. None of the criticism of the president is racist? You go on, keep undermining the premise of Joe the Plumber’s article here.

          • JessicaSideways

            Are you saying you are from Kenya?

          • Kent2012

            more ignorance about that worthless piece of crap billy “the traitor” clintony….keep right on forgetting that it was the Republican house that made things happen, not the rapist from Arkansas….

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Well, if you think this last recession was bad, which by the way after 5 years it still is not over, wait for two to three years from now and you will be wishing for the ole’ days of Bush. With a projected 20 Trillion dollars in DEBT and a slack economy that really is going nowhere at the highest rate of unemployment since the late 1950s, This small amount of good things happening in the Stock Market will blow up in about two-three years and the printing of money at 53 Billion dollars per week. Can you say the Greater Depression instead of the Great Depression? The inflation and lack of tax revenue due to all of the part time jobs people are being forced into at 29 hours per week will be staggering. The Greater Depression will drag every country in this entire world down because of economic collapse that is brought about by the policies of a “community organizer”.

          • Perrofelix

            The economy will blow up a lot sooner than that if these dead-enders make us default on our debt because the president is done negotiating with terrorists.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            That’s not going to happen. You know it and so do I. Both sides will agree to it and all of this BS talk about the debt ceiling will be over before you know it, Concessions will be made by both sides and the rhetoric will subside a bit. The 82-84% of the government will keep on working and the rest will be paid when this budget is straightened out. You know it and so do I. The people of this country on both sides will stop this political Washington DC bickering after they have had enough of the BS in Washington DC. All of the Senators, Representatives, and the President know that as well, because they do want to be re-elected in 2014. They know if they push any harder, and the polls show it, the majority of all of the Reps/Senators will be voted out of office in that election. They do one thing in Washington DC, they watch the polls and they all know their jobs are on the line from both sides of the aisles. I still say the economy will blow up as usually it does at the end of an eight year Presidency, it almost always does. How bad it will be, depends upon clear heads on both sides of the aisles. There may not be anything that can be done if the Debt and the printing of cash and the Budget that has not been passed in the last 4 years is not accomplished. By the way, Harry Reid is a MAJOR part of the problem in this cat fighting in WDC as well as the President. It is not just the Republicans in the House.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            the word “terrorist” implies actions…and does not recognise international borders.

          • WWWJD

            I bet you’re a blast to be around.

          • Mike Brown

            Yes…we can all thank George Bush for saving us from a massive treasury surplus and getting us into 2 illegal wars of choice…not getting Osama Bin Laden and nearly destroying our economy.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            That and look how Al Gore turned out. He is so extreme in his views that he thinks the world is coming to an end. Then he has also made Millions of dollars off of selling his dreams of Global Warming.

          • koolkat_1960

            Poor Gomer Pyle.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            I am proud that I risked my life for my country many, many times. I can tell you NEVER have. You HATE monger!

          • bluejacket472

            I’ll thank you for your service, though this government, and half the populace don’t appreciate it. I would save my words now, until the haters come begging for a slice of bread.

          • hdtex

            Couldn’t get a real job in the private sector huh?

          • davideartman

            You Joes, collectively, must be a group of morons. Lol the numbskulls that can’t even spell the word numbskull.

          • Rikian319

            Clobbered? You have a strange view of history. I seem to remember Gore winning the popular vote. I also remember the Supreme Court having to rule in favor of Bush. It was a conservative court. You can’t call that a clobbering.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Popular Votes do NOT win the White House and you should know that. The Electoral College are the ones that actually vote the President and Vice-President into office. Get over Gore. He would have been the second worst President of all time.

          • Rikian319

            Obviously they don’t win the white house. The point was that Gore wasn’t “clobbered” at all. A clobbering would have been the Reagan victories. Even the GHWBush Victory. Clinton’s victories… I’ll even go to GWB’s 2004 run. That wasn’t quite a clobbering, but a decisive victory none the less. It’s terrible speculation to say that he would have been the second worse. Who do you think is the worst? Carter? All I was saying is that the Supreme Court had to rule in favor of Bush winning. And that was only because it was a conservative leaning court. If it had been five liberal leaning justices, Gore would have likely been elected.

          • WJM51

            Good God, the stupid is REALLY strong in you, isn’t it? We needed W like we needed a national lobotomy, which is pretty much what we ended up with. Good Lord, you need help. LOTS of it.

          • bobby

            We all know the damage George Bush did to this Country, if you don’t than intelligence is not one of your strong points. I won’t even go over point by point the damage Bush did to this economy but it appears that you don’t have a clue the good things Clinton did. If you did not enjoy the good times of the 90′s than you must have been drunk in some ally without a job and homeless with no motivation to do better. I will educate you on a few facts that are now part of American History in ref to the Clinton Administration. 1) He had the lowest unemployment rate since 1969 at 4.2% as reported in 1999, the unemployment was at 7.5% when he took office, the unemploment rate under Clinton had fallen for seven years in a row, this unemployment rate was under 5% for 30 months in a row, the unemployment rate for women was at 4.1%, the lowest since 1953, the unemploment rate for African American was at 14.2% when Clinton took office, by 1999 it had drop to 8%, the lowest in history, Hispanics went from 11.6% in 1992 to 6.4% in 1999, the lowest in history. 2) Clinton created 20.4 million new jobs during his administration, 18.8 million of these jobs was in the private sector, that is the most jobs ever created under a single administration, more jobs than reagan and HW Bush created in three terms, the average was 245,000 jobs per month, that is the highest of any President ever, this compares to 52,000 for HW and 167,000 for Reagan. 3) Clinton had the most rapid growth in Construction jobs in 50 years, that is 1.9 million jobs, that is the fastest growth since Harry Truman. 4) Fastest and longest real wage growth in two decades, hourly wages increase by 3.7%, that was ahead of inflation, wages were up 6.5% after declining 4.3% during the Reagan, Bush years. 5) Inflation was the lowest since the 1960s, at 2% lowest since 1965, the GDP rose 1.3% the lowest rate since 1963. 6) Clinton had a budget surplus of $230 billion when he left office, the Federal budget was balance and the Federal deficit erased, Clinton is accused of puting in the largest tax increase ever, this is not true, this was totally on the uper income tax payers, if you ever heard of the dot-com bubble, that refers to the hundred of millions in unanticipated tax revenues from taxes on capital gains and rising salaries. 7) Clinton had a bold three part economic stategy focused on three objectives: fiscal discipline, investing in education, health care, science and technology and opening foreign markets. You are the first one that ever thought Bush was a smart man and by the way he did not clobber Gore, Gore won the popular vote at 50,999,897 to Bush 50,456,002 and if the Conservative Supreme Court had minded their business Gore won the election. At the time the recount was stopped the electorial count was at 266 for Gore and 271 for Bush. The state proceeded with the recount but it was not reconize because the Supreme Court had weighed in, the way it would have turn out is Bush 246, Gore 291. Bush was appointed by the Supreme Court, he was not elected. The extreme right wing is all about re-writing history but one thing you can’t change is facts, that is what you have here. I am sorry you missed the Clinton years that everyone else was enjoying, for me I was close to all this because from 1969-2009 I was a Congressional aide, seen it all first hand.

          • lee bell

            Joe NCA made all of the points that I was going to make. Man, you need a history lesson!

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Smart? George Bush? The EMBARRASSMENT from Texas? The guy who jeopardized the safety of our nation by not acting on the 9/11 intel? The guy who used said incident to justify preplanned wars? The guy who fucked our economy six ways to Sunday with his economic policies AND who has delusions of eloquence??? That George Bush???? Smart???? In the SAME SENTENCE!!! HA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAH HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! OWWWW!!!! MY GUT!!! (Dies).

        • oldgoatee

          Under Bush I could quit my job and have another one the same day or if I wanted to, take a week off with all the money I made even from the job I hated. Under Obozo there are background checks for burger flippers since they can pick and choose instead of hiring the felons and the credit criminals they had to since most people had better jobs than that.

          • JoeNCA

            Well if those Republicans stop terrorizing the economy every few months you might get that back!

          • Perrofelix

            Under Bush when? Not in December 2008 just as he was about to leave office and leave us with a mess. And speaking of a mess, as a government contract employee I’m now enjoying my mandatory week (plus) off and it’s coming outta my vacation time until that runs out. Thanks GOP!

          • oldgoatee

            November and December 2008 were nightmares…but after the inauguration of Obozo it was no better! People losing their houses and jobs and what does he do? Obamacare first priority!

          • Mike Brown

            After the inauguration…?
            So Obama destroyed the economy that Bush actually destoryed…even before he moved in to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
            Can we just stop pretending that none of this stems from the fact that you really don’t like black people and like them even less in positions of power?

          • oldgoatee

            The thought of Obama destroyed consumer confidence. If you were selling retail large ticket items then you could see it. And I wouldn’t mind at all seeing Allen West, Herman Cain, or Ben Carson in elected office…

          • Perrofelix

            Yes, Fox News made sure to terrify all of their audience with thoughts of how that black man would ruin America. You’re saying they did have some success.

          • cjmarley

            People started losing their houses BEFORE the Obama administration. My mother was one of them. She’s now going to be getting money back from the illegal practices that caused that to happen.

          • cjmarley

            And by the way…the housing market has already started to rebound which is a huge indicator of our economy.

          • bobby

            Your post doesn’t make much sense, am I to understand you are a felon or credit criminal and Obama is requiring McDonals’s to background check you and because of your history they won’t hire you but under Bush they will hire anyone. To me you sound more like a wineno, don’t they work just long enough to buy the next bottle of wine? I am not sure what point you were trying to make here. I am not sure how you made alot of money working for mim wage, that is what burger flippers get. Have a nice burger flipping life.

        • Kent2012

          too bad you have not gained enough education to realize that your democommie clowns started the housing crash with the community reconstruction act in 1979…….and single payer….that is communism and you and others that keep pushing it are parasites……….

          • Perrofelix

            Who knew the CRA would have had a 30-year fuse, through several up and down cycles of the housing market? On the other hand, I’m sure you’ll tell us that GWB has nothing to do with today’s economy because his reign of error ended almost 5 years ago. (pss..You forgot to mention ACORN and Benghazi).

          • Kent2012

            and you overlooked the effort by the Bush administration to correct many of the problems with agencies like freddie mac and fannie mae, oh how about what that faggot barney and his boy friend did ? okay and then those demo$luts put the agencies into high gear buying “toxic notes”, oh sorry I know you are not interested in the truth of what those clowns have done….you are just so happy that they are really expanding the parasite feeding trough with another bank busting entitlement program…….

          • Perrofelix

            This is all from a NYT article named “Bush drive for home ownership fueled housing bubble.” Since it does not confirm your worldview and is not from Redstate.com or Fox news, I’m sure this will roll right off your denialist little fantasy backside. At least someone else here may read it and realize that blaming the CRA for what happened 28 years later is folly.

            “We can put light where there’s darkness, and hope where there’s despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home.”
            - President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002

            “The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs,” John Snow said during an interview. “But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost.”

            “No one wanted to stop that (housing) bubble,” Lawrence Lindsay (Bush’s first chief economic adviser) said. “It would have conflicted with the president’s own policies.”

            “Part of economic security,” Bush declared that day (June 17, 2002), “is owning your own home.”

            Bush had to, in his words, “use the mighty muscle of the federal government” to meet his goal. He proposed affordable housing tax incentives. He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending. Concerned that down payments were a barrier, Bush persuaded Congress to spend as much as $200 million a year to help first-time buyers with down payments and closing costs.

            The president also leaned on mortgage brokers and lenders to devise their own innovations. “Corporate America,” he said, “has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place.”

            The president did push rules aimed at requiring lenders to explain loan terms more clearly. But the White House shelved them in 2004, after industry-friendly members of Congress threatened to block confirmation of his new housing secretary.

            Today, administration officials say it is fair to ask whether Bush’s ownership push backfired. Paulson said the administration, like others before it, “over-incented housing.”

            Hennessey put it this way: “I would not say too much emphasis on expanding home ownership. I would say not enough early focus on easy lending practices.”

          • Perrofelix

            …and by the way this gay man is done trying to dialog with someone who cannot go a single post without writing “$lut,” “faggot,” “ho,” “kenya boy” or other racist, sexist, homophobic tripe.

          • hdtex

            That all Kent knows…..he’s dealing with meth addiction and repressed homosexual feelings. He can’t help it.

          • WWWJD

            Is this just an act or are you really this miserable of a human being? It’s got to be awful being you.

          • bobby

            I guess I am not as smart as you, I only spent 40 years as a Congressional aide, from 1969-2009, I have never heard of the community reconstruction act in 1979. I did hear of the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, that was enacted to eliminate discrimination in issuing loans. You mention single payer, we don’t have a single payer healthcare system, what in the hell are you talking about. I am very well educated, you should take some of your own advice so you don’t look like a stupid fool, but then again that would discribe all of the extreme right wing nut jobs and it appears you are a certified member.

          • Kent2012

            got it right there bobber and that little act, The CRA, why not tell the people why that piece of crap legislation was nothing more that a weapon to blackmail banks into making loans to people that either could not or would not repay them….oh that single payer thing, that is what your hero kenyan boy told a union gathering during his first campaign, “We will have single payer insurance”, Too bad he did not expand on that communist comment. It would not have helped though the media clowns will not inform the public what that means….oh and after the loans went to hell due to the CRA we have turd$ like the clown from Connecticut and his boyfriend at freddie mac/ fannie mae absorbing toxic loans from banks so that the Real Americans can pay the freight….why not simply do another LBJ rape of the taxpayer give all the terminally unemployed houses and cars and repair insurance policies…..oh and lets not forget QE, now that is a quaint term..what it really means is print more money until the dollar crashes and the economy goes into the toilet……..

          • bobby

            I won’t waste alot of my time arguing with ignorance. For someone that don’t even know the name of the program he is trying to criticize thinks he is an expert on it, give me a break. See if you can absorb this, the program became law in 1977, the housing collapse happen in 2007-2008, do the math, that was 30 years, in that time a person would have their mortgage paid off. Banks were not required to give loans to people with bad credit, they could not turn down an applicant because of the color of their skin or nationality or gender or any of the other factors the Republicans like to use against a person. Their motive can be sum up in one word, GREED. Of course Obama was for a single payer, so was I, that is the only way everyone has access to good and equal healthcare. The single payer nerver happen so way did you even mention it? Obama compromise and used the Republican version to implement, this plan was indorse by the Heritage Foundation, given to MA by Romney but once Obama jump on board they were against it. I know you Tea Party jerks don’t live in the real world, the economy is on the mend, the stock market Dow is at 15,000 points up from 6500 when Bush had control. Thank God your type of ignorance is in a minority and more and more people every day is realizing what fools you really are, Ted Cruz is not even showing his lying face any more.

        • Retired MSGT USAF

          If you cannot look up Sept 11 2001 and realize that Osama Bin Laden was at war with the United States under the Clinton Administration. He had the two Embassies in Africa bombed to make his point. Then all Clinton did was send a few cruise missiles his way. I have read the Declaration of War that Osama Bin Laden wrote, have you? He (Osama Bin Laden), was offered up by the Sudan when he was there and Clinton decided that he did not want to be bothered with him and told the Sudan Government at the time NO DEAL. All of the deaths of 911 were due to a Democrat President worrying about the DotCom bubble bursting and Monica telling on him. Does the phrase tail wagging the dog sound familiar? I realize that you are going to say, “Well Clinton was not the President at the time of 911″ well I have to admit that is true. The problem with that fact is that Osama’s problem started with Iraq invading Kuwait and we went to the middle east to save northern Saudi Arabia from being over run by Saddam Hussein and to return a legitimate government back to Kuwait. (I know I was there and in on most of the planning). When GHWB left office and Clinton took over he ignored all of the signs and thought that Osama was just another Arab screaming in the wind. It took a while, but Osama Bin Laden was able to bide his time after leaving Sudan for Afghanistan and the rest is history. Know all of the facts before you condemn either side, please.

          • bobby

            Gee, I only had a one liner in my post about Bush being the President under 911. I am well aware that Bin Laden was around long before Bush took office, I also read his declaration but not recently, I first seen that back about 15 years ago, I chalked it off as the ramblings of a mad man. I agree that Clinton could have been more aggressive in his responses to some of the terrorist attack taking place around the world but he did respond. In this Country you can’t buy a car with $10,000 cash, the dealer would have to report it but a person can lay out $25,000 cash for flying lessons, they were not interested in learning how to land just keeping the aircraft in the air, that should have been a red flag. The fact remain this happen on Bush’s watch, if he had been more pro-active and review the doccuments the Clinton Administration passed on, 911 could have been prevented. I commend you for your service, I also served in the USAF but only for 4 years during the Vietnam conflict, excuse me for saying but when I was in I never heard of a Master Sgt. being part of the war strategy or planning, maybe things change. The fact that you did not mention is that Bin Laden is at the bottom of the sea thanks to Obama, Bin Laden was made to pay the price for years of creating havoc in the world. This Administration has done more than any other to bring a countless number of terrorist to justice. Thank you for your post, CLH.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            You neglect the fact that Bush failed to act on that intel and on top of that let the Bin Laden family leave the country…in fact, you probably failed to realise that the Bush and Bin Laden families are close as 12:00.

      • Bobby P

        Anna – And I would rather eat the rear end of a skunk than to ever vote for a republican.

      • hdtex

        When the idiots on the right have nothing left to say…….BENGHAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!

        • Retired MSGT USAF

          There have been over 100 crimes that this administration have committed and you call Benghazi and the cover-up not a crime? It is illegal to cover-up anything by the government! Just look up the cover-up of Richard Nixon. He was drug through the Press and the Congress for doing just that, covering up a crime. A single crime! When this President told the families of these four fallen people that he would get the people responsible, he did not mean it. It has been over two years and still no attempt to solve this. The families have not heard a single word from Obama or his administration on what they are doing to capture or kill these terrorists that killed and RAPED our Ambassador. Hillary Clinton covered it up with a LIE about some video, she still has not told the truth about why this happened.
          Do you NOT want to know the TRUTH?

          • JoeNCA

            Always amazing how people on the right are more angry at the president than they are at the terrorists who committed such atrocities.

          • Perrofelix

            And how they give the last administration a free pass for allowing us to stoop almost to the terrorists’ level. (I say this while being completely in opposition to the President’s current drone strike policy).

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            I am angry at BOTH. But this administration had those people in Benghazi for a reason. Has he ever said what that reason is? NO he has NOT. You just want this to be about politics, I do not, I want the TRUTH about why these people were killed, why were they there? I have no sympathy for any Administration that would not even attempt to try to save these 4 people’s lives. We still have not heard the reason for the LIE that was perpetrated upon us by another Ambassador. A TOTAL cover-up, manufactured by this administration, whether from Obama himself or from his handlers in the White House, it does not matter! It was a LIE told to the Citizens of this country. When this happened there were aircraft that could have been there within 3 hours. There were military personnel t5hat could have been there within 2 hours. This is just another cover-up of a President who is refraining from being a Commander-In-Chief..

          • JoeNCA

            “I want the truth about why these people were killed.”

            They were killed by terrorists.

            “Why were they there?”

            I’m assuming you mean the ambassadors. Because that was their job?

            Can we get back to real issues now?

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            That is a REAL issue. The death of the first Ambassador in decades is not a real issue?
            Why were they there I can tell you, but you would not believe I. They were there to funnel weapons into Syria after they funneled weapons into Libya. Boat loads of weapons left Benghazi for Turkey via our Ambassador and the CIA. When the terrorists caught wind of it they were the ones who did the deed. But, when this Administration did absolutely nothing to come to the aid of these US Citizens and Employees, that is when it crossed the line.
            I know for a fact that there are many resources they could have used in the immediate area that could have come to their help. his was NOT just a few minutes of firefight. It was over the entire night, over 8 hours. A F-16 from Aviano Air Base could have been there in less than three hours. Not to mention that there are two Squadrons of F-16s at that Base. The Navy has a Base at Sigonela on the Island of Sicily There is an entire Brigade of Airborne Army personnel in Italy, that could have been airdropped into Benghazi. There were Special Forces Ready and willing in the former Yugoslavia. There was absolutely no excuse for not coming to their aid.

          • hdtex

            YOU musta been PISSED at the 93 diplomatic officials killed under Dubya’s watch…..Amiright???

          • cjmarley

            those people were dead LONG before that 2 hours. but you would rather risk more lives to extricate bodies.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Yes of course you go get them. Dead or alive, preferably alive. You NEVER lave anyone behind. I take it that you have never been in the service of this country, so that is a foreign concept to you. Never lave the fallen behind. EVER!

          • cjmarley

            And sometimes you have to wait and go back for your fallen when it’s safe. You mentioned the 2 hours.
            The call was made at 9:40pm of a group of men descending on them. At 10:05 a group of CIA from the annex was briefed and sent to institute a rescue. When they got there people were already dead. They got what survivors they could find and took them back to the annex. After midnight the annex was then attacked. Hmmm…so sounds to me like that there was NOT enough time for a rescue outside what the Annex agents did who DID save lives.
            It’s only you Pubs who see a conspiracy in everything that Obama does and believes everything that Faux news tells you.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            You just don’t get it do you. There were plenty of assets there in the area to accomplish this task. What was ordered by the President? Nobody seems to be speaking about that.

          • hdtex

            when all else fails……BENGHAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!

          • Justin O’Reilly

            You are not angry at BOTH…all you’ve managed to do was slam liberals and democrats and make excuses for and build up conservative republicans…you are anything BUT neutral or bipartisan with your anger.

          • Retired MSGT USAF

            Who are you to say what I am angry about or who I am angry at? You do not know me!
            I just recently had my home broken into by some DRUG Addicts that Stole a rare weapon out of my home, along with 13,000 dollars worth of other things. This was just 4 days ago! The sheriff’s department has closed the case already because they say they have no funds to investigate. These punks that broke into MY HOME took a very lethal hand gun, and my passport among other things, which are FEDERAL CRIMES. My property taxes have gone up 400 dollars in the last two years and they say they can no longer investigate because of lack of funding!
            These drug addicts that have infiltrated my community have everything to do with the liberal MINDSET, that they are only hurting themselves. I beg to differ, they have just hurt me personally and now there is a STOLEN .40 caliber handgun out on the streets and my passport out there to sell to a terrorist. How is that for being angry. The policies of the left have allowed this mindset to go on far too long.

          • hdtex

            And the 93 diplomatic staff killed under Dubya? Were you outraged then you Faux patriot?

      • Gayskeptic

        Coo – coo

      • drdbiggs

        Exactly, look at what America has become and is turning into with the HNIC!

        • Perrofelix

          Gee, right. We need a white Republican president because no one can call the president the Head N*gger in Charge (HNIC) without being called a racist. How unfair to white TEA partiers who just really really want to have discussions over policy, starting with using “N*gger” and moving on to Kenya, Islam, and so forth.

      • usorthem3

        According to the 1st Amendment of the USA, I don’t have to care about your “god”. You lost all credibility of intelligent thought with BENGHAZI!!!!!! You have been brainwashed by FAUX NEWS and the LIES they were given license for in 2004 to misinform the public. Your SAINT Reagan sold the American citizens to the corporations and the GOP have done everything the KOCH brothers have told them to do like good little puppet sycophants.

      • Haverfordguy

        My suggestion is that you write the name of your drug dealer on your hand before you enter the voting booth so you get the spelling right. I’m sure you’re a very nice person but you really haven’t a clue, do you?

      • Sheldon Gramps

        Ms. Fabian you are clearly parroting the garbage you hear on Fox news. None of what you have stated here is true. Where was your outrage at the numerous embassy attacks and hundreds of deaths under Bush’s watch? In addition, there were the deaths from the Iraq war and 9- 11 victims. Your last Republican president was disastrous
        .

      • shawn_von_socialist

        you’ve listened to many of these types

        • Justin O’Reilly

          LMAO!

      • JessicaSideways

        As for loss of business, this is probably more due to big box stores diverting traffic from local businesses and Bush-era tax cuts to the rich which tanked the economy. Or predatory lenders, which sold people bad mortgages that they wouldn’t be able to pay.

        Well, since there is no god, there will be a lack of god, no matter who is in office.

        As for a lack of morals, lack of leadership and loads of scandals, that’s the GOP, Q.E.D.

        You do realise that the Benghazi thing was a result of the consulate being defunded thanks to… Republicans! http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/10/14342096-the-gops-embassy-security-problem

        If you would vote for a drug dealer before a democrat, then that says a lot about your unwillingness to do the right thing.

    • mattogilvie55

      Well, we wish someone would kill you. So there.

      • booboodevo

        Keep it classy.

        • mattogilvie55

          I was responding to a liberal. There is no need to keep it classy.

          • booboodevo

            You get the respect you give. So, actually, yeah, there is a need to keep it classy. If you can’t comment with respect or something resembling humanity, you might want to consider not saying anything.

            You don’t do your side any favors when you behave like a buffoon.

          • mattogilvie55

            Conservatives never get any respect from liberals, and never will, regardless of how polite we are. I’m not even bothering with it anymore. I’m treating liberals exactly how they always treat conservatives.

          • JoeNCA

            With blanket statements?

          • mattogilvie55

            It’s called sauce for the goose.

          • JoeNCA

            Yes it is. So you’re just being the change you want to see in the world, aren’t you?

          • mattogilvie55

            I’m being what I am, one of the good guys.

          • Perrofelix

            Yeah, one of the the good white guys against the forces of blackness.. er, of darkness.

          • mattogilvie55

            Liberalism is a dark force, glad you are finally seeing the light.

          • cjmarley

            Funny…it’s only the Tea Party you hear being the loudest and most crude. It’s the Tea Party duds on TV acting asinine with some of the stupidest stuff I’ve ever heard come out of a politicians mouth.

          • mattogilvie55

            That is pure BS and you now it. Liberals have always, without exception, been the most crude and hateful bunch I have ever seen. And if liberals don’t like conservatives finally giving back what we have been getting all these years, tough. They don’t have the nerve to do anything about it because they want to keep living.

          • cjmarley

            So you’re saying that doing anything about it would mean they’d be killed for it? That’s not hateful? I think there are crude hateful people on both sides. But I can tell you when I was driving OTR the only people you heard being crude and hateful on the CB were the tea party drivers who’s favorite terms were “ni**er in the whitehouse”. Online I see so much use of “libtards” & “sheeple” used by the tp’s when they speak about liberals. If I’m a libtard…does that make you a retard? Bad enough the two parties in the white house can’t talk peacefully with each other…but it’s no different than how it’s become in this nation when the two are attacking each other with such hatred.

            And the stupid stuff coming out of tea party politicians mouths…no comment on that eh? Maybe it’s because you know it’s true.

          • mattogilvie55

            Spare me your made-up moral outrage. Liberals think and say the same thing about every conservative every minute of every day.

            And just for the record, conservatives are the good guys. Liberals are the evil ones. All of the bad in this country can be truthfully be laid at the feet of the DNC and all of their evil supporters.

            “But I can tell you when I was driving OTR the only people you heard
            being crude and hateful on the CB were the tea party drivers who’s
            favorite terms were “ni**er in the whitehouse”.”

            You are a damn liar. Liberals have been hateful from the getgo. All the vile things you piles of crap said about Palin, ALL of it unjustified? All the vile things you said about George W Bush and his family, again ALL of it unjustified? Cram it junior. It is YOUR side who are the hateful ones. You just don’t like your own tactics being used against you. and don’t even think about pretending you have the high road; that is totally impossible. Conservatives are better than liberals, and that will never change. It doesn’t matter what we say or what we do; we are still better.

          • cjmarley

            yea, get out there on the road and listen to the CB and tell me I’m lying. And sorry…but Palin IS an idiot. Conservatives are such good guys they shut down the government. Yea…believe what you want. And to label ONE party evil is just ignorant. There’s stupid people on both sides. But I’ll stick with the side that doesn’t feel the need to go to war every chance they get.

            You should really let go of some of that anger…it’s very bad for your health.

          • mattogilvie55

            Palin is not an idiot. she happens to be a very intelligent person, and for you to say what you said only proves that I was right (as if there was any doubt).

            There is only evil on YOUR side of the fence, not mine. If you choose the DNC, then you have chosen evil. You have decided to hate America. Ergo, you are the enemy.

          • cjmarley

            Hmmm…not an idiot. Let’s look at some of the things she’s said.

            “The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.”

            “But obviously, we’ve got to stand with our North Korean allies.” (DOH!)

            “We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic?” –Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada’s single-payer health care system

            “Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the Ten Commandments.”

            “Who calls a shot like that? Who makes a decision like that? It’s a disturbing trend.” –Sarah Palin, pushing a conspiracy theory that “In God We Trust” had been moved to the edge of coins by the Obama administration (the change was made by the Bush administration in 2007 and was later reversed by Congress, before Obama took office),

            “Only dead fish go with the flow.”

            “I don’t know if you’re going to use the word ‘terrorist’ there.” –Sarah Palin, asked if people who bomb abortion clinics are terrorists.

            “I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’”

            “Nucular.” (Couldn’t pronounce nuclear)

            “I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we’ve been charged with and automatically throw them out.” (no such thing as a Department of Law)

            “‘Refudiate,’ ‘misunderestimate,’ ‘wee-wee’d up.’ English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!”

            “What does the vice president do?” :That’s something that Piper would ask me! … They’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.”

            “Well, I’m very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there,” – after she was found to have engaged in wrongdoing and unethical activity

            “Polls? Nah… they’re for strippers and cross country skiers.”

            “No wonder Michelle Obama is telling everybody ‘you’d better breastfeed your baby’, Yeah, you’d better, because the price of milk is so high right now.”

            You mentioned education, and I’m glad that you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and God bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?

            “I don’t think equality is always a good thing… We should promote competition instead of hating on those who work hard and get ahead.”

            And oh look…she palled up with McCain who is now being attacked by the Tea Party as being “pro-Obama”.

            Evil on my side of the fence eh? I bet you believe Alex when he says the government is run by lizard people too huh?

          • mattogilvie55

            So?

          • Justin O’Reilly

            So…that means she IS an idiot!

          • mattogilvie55

            No it doesn’t.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Well, it does mean this if you can’t come up with actual evidence to the contrary. cjmarley cited evidence to the fact that Sarah Palin IS, in FACT, an IDIOT…and if all you can say to all her idiotic antics is “So?”, without even being able to refute these, then that makes YOU an even BIGGER idiot for falling for her nonsense…or a Lemming. E-D-U-C-A-T-E YOURSELF!

          • mattogilvie55

            Whether Palin is stupid or not in irrelevant. She did not deserve any of the hateful rhetoric she received from the left, not one bit of it. Everyone who said those things about her should die.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            You know…Hitler said the same thing about his opponents…if you adopt the ways of the decadent west and their liberal democratic nonsense backted by the Jew, then you have chosen evil…You have decided to hate Germany. Ergo, you are the enemy.

            Not his exact words, but his intended message.

          • mattogilvie55

            But Hitler was a fascist, just like the DNC is today. I’m not.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Actually, the fact that you parroted his absolutist philosophies makes you, in every sense, a fascist.

          • Imhotep40

            What does Palin mean when she says “take our country back,” or when she speaks to all white crowds in middle Americans – “you’re the real Americans?” – I merely ask because you equate political ideology and affiliation with good and “evil” when their actually two sides of the same coin. . . . Our two party system serves as a check/balance in our legislature, not good vs. evil.

            Ignorance, good and evil are represented and present on both sides of the political isle. The farther the extreme (right/left), the more oppressive (evil) to individual liberties of the majority in the middle.

          • mattogilvie55

            I’m merely taking a page from the leftwing playbook. That is how they treat conservatives, so that is how I will treat them. They definitely deserve no better.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Because they earn the dispresect they receive. They have no TACT when presenting an argument, and they don’t even hide the fact that they are backed by hate groups and other sketchy organisations such as the KKK and Stormfront. How is being backed by the centre of White supremacism, religious intolerance and hate, being insolent toward their opponents and then claiming to be polite in the same breath (have you even TRIED to be genuinely polite????), attempting to eliminate the rights of the groups you are out of favour with and bawling “attack on my civil and religious liberties!!” when that does not work for you, and murdering innocents (what you call “justifiable” homicide) out of a misplaced sense of “Christian/religious duty” even REMOTELY worthy of respect? By all rights almost the ENTIRE lot of you extreme wing-nuts should be doing prison time for all the hate crimes you seem to get away with, but that’s what I love about this country…and I have to respect that if you are found innocent by a jury of your peers…then you are innocent in the eyes of the law, and that’s why it PISSES me off to no end when people like you take that for granted and continue your little Klan-wannabe hatefest. So as for the “no need to keep it classy…” I seriously doubt you ever intended to do so in the first place, and instead come up with bullshit to justify what you would have done either way, regardless.

          • mattogilvie55

            You deserve to have everything you own taken from you simply for telling the lies you just told. Not one thing you wrote is the truth, and you know it. So you can take your phony moral outrage and cram it, junior. Compared to conservatives, you have absolutely no moral high ground.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            See, you never even tried, and I want you to cite your evidence…prove to me that I’m lying. And I don’t know about high ground, but you seem to never cease finding new LOWS to sink to.

      • hdtex

        It’s always a violent comeback from the idiots on the right.

        • mattogilvie55

          Take your phony moral outrage and cram it. You liberals think the same thing about every conservative every minute of every day. You are a liar if you say otherwise.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Take YOUR phony moral outrage and cram it…ours are genuine, and supported by actual human morals that EVERYBODY could agree on and easily follow…YOUR outrage is based PURELY on your own bias and the horse dug that Fox News spoon-feeds you every minute of every day…and you are DELUSIONAL if you think otherwise.

    • Dawn Garland

      did someone forget to take his sanity pills ?

      • Kent2012

        no he is just another parasite……

      • JessicaSideways

        Well, you and Kent2012 forgot your psych meds.

    • Texas Belle

      Except for a few years after 1994 the Democrats have totally controlled Congress (for 40+ years) which has led to near bankruptcy of the United States. After Obama leaves in 2016 the debt will be about 20 trillion and rising because of Obamacare; he has spent more than all other Presidents combined since the beginning of this country. He knows nothing about Economics and cares little what people want. A majority rejected Obamacare but it was passed by Democrats anyway; no Republican voted for it. They will be totally responsible when this monstrous program completely destroys the country.

      • Retired MSGT USAF

        Very True, even though the liberals keep saying it was passed by both Houses of Congress. The plain facts are that it was not passed by any other Party but the Democrat Party. Not a single vote from the Republican Party, at all. Pushed through on Christmas Eve in the dead of night without ANY input from the Republican Party AT ALL.

        • Perrofelix

          I guess every time a partisan bill is passed it doesn’t need to be followed then? Well in that case I think the Bush tax cuts and the invasion of Iraq must not be legitimate because the yellow cake was faked, er, I mean, because not a single Whig, Know-Nothing or Bull Moose voted for it. I pray that the Republican party will be joining that list soon, btw.

      • cjmarley

        Obamacare has nothing to do with the the budget or the debt. Obamacare is funded outside of those.

    • Kent2012

      well actually the decline got going very well with the democommie’s and lyndon johnson’s huge welfare rat act affectionately known as the “great society”…..of course accuracy is not your forte……

      • Justin O’Reilly

        Dude…please…just stop with your projections…you are going to kill me by making me laugh so damn hard…

  • Mobyminnow

    Joe,
    You’re an idiot. If criticism of POTUS didn’t come with pictures of watermelons, or being called “boy”, or being called a liar during the State of the Union address, or being called “food stamp President”, or being called someone with a “Kenyan Marxist worldview”, or numerous other slurs, I’d agree with you.
    I thought your 15 minutes was over and here you are holding down your little corner of the blogosphere. Good for you.
    You do realize that the Koch Brothers wouldn’t allow you to shine their shoes don’t you? How you identify with those folks is beyond me because based on your life performance so far, you’ll never get rich, lol.

    • Carol Cowart

      You are assuming the Joe’s goal in life is to “get rich”. He is rich in ways many people will never understand.

      • robtish

        Yeah, rich in what comes out the back end of a cow.

    • Dawn Garland

      he’s called the food stamp president for a reason—look it up. and don’t forget that this president calls Tea Party people all sorts of names–he is utterly classless, and you are drinking the kool aid and drowning in ignorance. Time to wake up before YOUR America is totally gone…he is hurting you too.

      • grassroot

        He’s a Marxist and driving this country under, as is his aim.

        • hdtex

          And you’re far too stupid to know what “marxist” means.

      • Brian Daugherty

        So let me get this straight Dawn. Instead of giving us meaningful examples that back up your arguments you want us to look it up and prove your point for you? what a ground breaking Idea that is my little country bumpkin.

      • Perrofelix

        Yes, Fox News is calling him the food stamp president because under the economy GWB left us more people than ever have been on food stamps. I’m familiar. The reason Fox has made this a talking point is because they think that a time when more then ever people are dependent on food stamps is would be the perfect time to cut the program.

        • Retired MSGT USAF

          Ok, here goes the BLAME GWB bunch all over again. Get a LIFE. Under the economy we have been in for the last 5 years the Obama Administration has doubled the number of people on “Food Stamps”. GWB did not double OUR debt in the last 5 years. GWB did not cause the Senate to NOT pass a BUDGET in the last 4 years. GWB did NOT and has NOT been in power for the last 5 years to blame him for anything. He tried to STOP the Democrat Congress from giving out loans to people who did NOT deserve to get them and the Housing market dumped! Obama has NOT taken responsibility for anything, ever! It is always somebody else’s fault! NEVER HIS!

          • JoeNCA

            Funny how all that still has GWB’s signature on it when it went into law.

          • Perrofelix

            “You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due.” – Dick Cheney telling Paul O’Neill, treasury sec., we could go ahead with those tax cuts that would blow up our debt. So, I wonder why we didn’t see the “TEA Party” founded until less than a month after the inauguration?

          • Justin O’Reilly

            see? You’re not so neutral…admit it…you are as partisan as they come.

    • oldgoatee

      He IS the Food Stamp President! Besides, you guys are always telling us how many more white people are on food stamps than blacks…

  • Patrick Jones

    I have to shake my head when people post comments without actually reading the article, or even checking out who wrote it.

    • hdtex

      Most on the right can’t read. What do you expect? Needs more purty pictures.

  • James Maxwell

    As a TEA Party, White Conservative person I would rather follow the words of Dr Martin Luther
    King and “Judge a man by the content of his heart and not the color of his skin”. Unfortunately
    the first Black person elected to office turned out to be a racist, anti American, Anti Christian
    and totally unqualified to even speak to the American people. His actions have done more harm
    to race relations in our nation since the violence during the Civil Rights movement. He, and
    other race baiters, have done all they can to start a civil rights war and destroy the advancements
    that we have made towards equality for All Americans, not just a “select few”.
    Personally I have know Men and Women of various races that I met in the military that I would
    follow to hell and back again never doubting their qualifications. But by the same token I have
    also met some in leadership positions that were unqualified to clean the outhouse those normally
    do not last very long.

    • booboodevo

      Interesting. So it’s the President restricting voter access in North Carolina? Or is that not racist in your TEA party White Conservative mind?

      THAT is a race war.

      Making sure the rich get richer at the expense of the poor is class warfare. It’s also the GOP platform.

      You’re not very bright.

      • Herman Nelson

        You’re a good example of why there used to be state run mental institutions.

        I guess we won’t talk about how the democrats are in bed with the KKK, nor will we talk about how democrats were against equal rights every step of the way. Your bridge is missing you, go back to it.

        • booboodevo

          Actually, why don’t you talk about it? You’re so knowledgeable and wise, I’d LOVE to have all the knowledge you have to share with those of us in the state-run mental institutions.

          Go ahead, Herm. We’re listening.

          • Herman Nelson

            Never been to one, but how about you? If you’d quit boinking yer dad and take the peter out of your mouth, maybe you could compile a complete thought or two.

          • booboodevo

            “boinking your dad and take the peter out of your mouth.” I can see you’re the high point for conversation here.

            I also notice that you didn’t bother to back up any of your assertions with facts. Just more petty insults.

            Sorry, but you’re an intellectual lightweight. I don’t have time for such tomfoolery. Here you had a chance to educate someone, and you passed. No wonder you guys keep losing elections.

          • Perrofelix

            Oh yes, they are homophobic too. they want a STRAIGHT white male president next time around.

        • Perrofelix

          An ad hominem reply followed by denial that the 1960′s or later ever happened. Nice. You’re an example of what happens when people skip American history class.

        • JoeNCA

          Were, past tense. The Southern Strategy put Republicans in bed with disaffected white racists and they’ve been there ever since.

          • Herman Nelson

            you only were against it when it was not in your favor. You’re still racists as far as I am concerned. Multiculturalism is just a tool to further your goals. As soon as a tool is no longer useful, you throw it under the bus. Stalin did that numerous times.

          • Perrofelix

            Yes, I’m sure every open of us Obama supporters were around and voting and were rabid segregationists then. 70 years ago. Let me tell you then that as an American you were for slavery when it was in your favor. And you were for the inquisition too! You were for driving the Native Americans away from our settlements and then signing treaty after treaty that you broke with them. You were really for an awful lot of nasty things.

      • James Maxwell

        The last time I check on the number of voters in the south there were more
        registered Black/minority voters than those identified as white. This surprisingly
        enough was a report done by the Democrat party. The TEA party has numerous
        members from all racial divides in it and gaining more and more ever day. It is
        open to any and all who are upset with the games being played by the diversity
        leaders on the left. I think your moniker tell a lot about you mental status and
        the fact that you are a disgruntled Kool Aid drinker. Wake up and get facts
        before you show you lack of knowledge. To require a person to have a photo
        I.D. is nothing new. You have to have one to conduct business with and
        agency in the world today. Even in foreign lands you must have a photo
        I.D. issued by their respective governments or you do not get to vote nor
        conduct any form of business nor travel without being constantly stopped,
        check and detained until you can prove who, what and why you are there.

        • booboodevo

          You got a lot from my jokey handle on disqus. You really must be an intellectual heavyweight!

          As for the IDs, I don’t mind. IDs seem like a reasonable thing to require, so long as it’s easy to get one from your state and local government. In some places, THAT is under attack as well. That shouldn’t be.

          What I mind is shortening early voting BY WEEKS AT A TIME, as well as shortening the hours available to vote ONLY to 9-5 hours, basically ensuring that fewer poor folks will make it to the polls before voting is closed. THAT bothers me. That’s intentionally making it harder for people to exercise their right to free elections. How, exactly, do you justify that?

    • Joe Kosior

      You are absolutey correct. It amazes me how many kool-aid drinkers are commenting on this article. I guess Joe struck a chord and scared their little asses. You can almost see them frothing at the mouth while spewing their anti-American comments knowing they can hide behind a keyboard and nobody will ever know who they are. Cowards always hide.

      • booboodevo

        Psst. Joe The (Unlicensed) Plumber didn’t write this.

      • JoeNCA

        Wait a minute, if we disagree with someone, we’re anti-American? Did you not even read your own article?

  • Robert Carvo

    This president will go down as a socialist and one of the worst presidents ever.Jimmy Carter and Warren Harding, move over you have been surpassed.He is a corrupt stubborn man who doesn’t know about governing or how to do his job!Look at all the scandals involving his administration,IRS,Benghazi,Eric Holder,Lois Lerner,on and on.He has covered up his place of birth and faked a birth certificate,will not release college transcripts and other personal coverups.

    • booboodevo

      People who think this President is a socialist have no idea what that word means.

    • Rebecca Gardner

      You don’t let facts get in the way of your talking points do you. The reality is Obama is further right than Reagan.

      Obama lowered taxes : Reagan raised them 11 times.
      Obama has reduced the debt at an amazing pace : Reagan created one of the biggest deficits in history.

      I can go on and on and on but if you actually believe there is some sort of scandal in any of the non-scandal issues you listed I don’t see any hope of getting across facts to you.

      • oldgoatee

        900 billion dollars for porkulus has reduced the debt? Don’t think even the late John Maynard Keynes could make a case for that…

    • Rebecca Gardner

      P.S. – “He has covered up his place of birth” LMAOROF!!!!! Yeah, one day old Barack Obama placed a birth announcement ad in a Hawaiian newspaper.

      I feel so sorry for you that you are believing people that are lying to you and make you vote against your own best interests.

    • hdtex

      BENGHAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!

    • JoeNCA

      Don’t tell me, you’d vote for Ted Cruz de Canada in a heartbeat.

  • DouglasDauntless

    The Black Senators and Congressmen have proved time again that they are biased and Racists against the White people. Same thing for the Latino Caucus, they are Racist against the White population because they always vote for the Latino’s right or wrong and they were born in this Country. Same thing with the Blacks that do not appreciate that it is the White people that went out of their way to set them free. It is the White people who took a back seat for them and let them become the chosen people of the Government stopping all White males from advancing even though the White male was more qualified for anything.

    The Black male and females are chosen first over all White people for everything of any impotence. They are the only ones that can show up at a college and walk right in with no SAT test or show any educational credentials. They don’t have to pay for their education they get free housing and free spending money and they don’t even have to show up for classes to get a degree in let’s say law like the Obama’s. And the White people have to take a back seat and not complain.

    Sonia Sottamayor is a good example of Racism first, she even brags about being a Affirmative Action person all her life. She did not attend any classes for law, she couldn’t understand what she was reading and was told to read children classic books. Yet she because of Affirmative Action she was appointed a Federal Judge and all her decisions were based on Racism and delighted in putting down White lawyers in her court. Now she,is still a Racist and a bigot, is a hand picked Supreme Court Justice controlled by our Racist, Muslim, Bigoted Communist, President Barrack Hussein Obama, who hate’s the United States and the Military, and all the White people, even though he is a White/Negro.

    • Perrofelix

      No replies because there is so much wrong with your premise and statements that nobody even knows where to begin. That’s why you have so many downvotes, though. Nobody wastes their time trying to talk sense to the crazy person walking down the street talking to himself.

  • Oswald Carnes

    Joe the Plumber is still alive? That’s a shame.

    • simpletony1

      Oswald, oswald…didn’t one of you oswalds assassinate Kennedy? I know you have brown eyes because the crap runs all the way thru your brains (?) to the top of your head

  • Gigi

    Your 15 minutes were just a long time ago buddy.

    • DudeKembro

      Maybe Joe the Plumber would like some cheese with all his whine?

      • paintinc56

        MAYBE you should be ADDRESSING the BLACK MAN WHO WROTE the ARTICLE, OOPS, I forgot you are a BRAIN DEAD LEFTIST so YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE of READING.
        BLACK MAN WROTE ARTICLE POINTING OUT THAT BLACKS WERE DOING GREAT WHILE REAGAN WAS IN OFFICE & ARE DOING HORRIBLY UNDER the ObaMAO REGIME.

        • DudeKembro

          Boy you tea partiers sure are angry. Maybe that’s why you and your party are so unpopular.

          Lay off the coffee, homie.

          • Kent2012

            lay of the drugs homie

          • hdtex

            In Kent’s case it’s meth…..teabilly heroin.

          • Frederum

            That would be Oxycontin.

          • James Youngblood

            yeah thats not racist

          • DudeKembro

            Nice comeback, more proof the Teathuglican Party is so full of original ideas they come up with on their own, haha.

          • Kent2012

            well dud the comment is still the same, with the appropriate spelling correction from “of to off”….nice to see that you and the rest of the coward weenie kenyan boy supporters can dish out all the insults that come to mind, but are unable to take any….that figures..

          • DudeKembro

            Haha. Well, according the polls — both skewed and unskewed (ahaha) — Americans now know that the Teathuglican Party isn’t fit govern. But at least you good folk can correct spelling mistakes online — so that’s something. Haha.

            By the way, we took everything the Teathuglican Party had to dish re: your shutdown tantrum, and we won. Try to keep up. ;)

          • mandate

            @Kent2012 — Well I can take any insult you can dish out. You know why??? Because I am unaffected by the opinions of village idiots!!!!!! So knock yourself out little man!!!!

          • Kent2012

            no you are simply infected with communist ideals from your hero, Kenyan boy

          • mandate

            I just love the witty conservative comebacks!!! Derp!

          • Kent2012

            twerp!

          • mandate

            Is that the best you can do???? You disappoint me! I thought for sure you would come up with something original. I guess I shouldn’t have expected anything more from the picken’em up truck/easy rider rifle rack/ hillbilly contingent.

          • Kent2012

            that is a shame starbucko coffee swilling neocommunist beemer bigcity kenyan boy supporter, athletic that is…..

          • mandate

            Derp!!!!!!

          • spencer1952

            Kent, look at what sort of GOP/Tea Party candidates you will have to choose from in against the political powerhouse Hillary Clinton, you have Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio. Two Cubans and one redneck what a combination! We can fight for the country but if these two communistic bastards and the one KKK
            sob can join force against the President who is Black! What kind of America are you fighting for? Jim Crow died a long time ago Kent, you cannot resurrect him even with all the satanic blood running through your miserable body he’s dead Kent, he’s plumb dead.

          • BiIIy

            Shut up you racist idiot, you probably don’t even really know what communism is.

          • Kent2012

            sounds like your taco is hurting, now you can get it fixed with free kenyan boy care, or even get a new one built….and Real American taxpayers will have more bucks stolen at gunpoint to pay for your mental care…..

          • BiIIy

            We are the real Americans now. You traitors remember that.

          • Kent2012

            no, you are another parasite…..

          • BiIIy

            You’re a senile old parasite in our country, traitor.

          • Kent2012

            and you are a brainless twit…go promote your idiocy where it is appreciated, say Venezuela, hugo “lips” chavez is eagerly awaiting your companionship….and he will have his friends enjoy your new taco…

          • BiIIy

            I really don’t think Hugo is waiting for me in Venezuela. Anyway we’re very much appreciated in the USA, more so than you Tea-Teard traitors

          • Julie Marie Totsch

            First, if you don’t want to look like a racist, quit referring to the President as Kenyan boy. You’re just helping to make the case that the Tea Party is full of nothing but racist slobs. Second, calling Obama’s policies Communist, just proves you don’t know anything about Communism. Third, this whole “taxed enough already” movement the Tea Party is all about is stupid. As the tax levels have been dropping on the top one percent, the entire middle class is being squeezed to being nearly out of existence. Further, the “written by a black man article” that proves Obama is bad for blacks in America is full of repeatedly flawed logic and misleading numbers. And, let’s see, you wanted an example of the stupidity of the the Tea Party? How about the fact they keep voting to shoot themselves in the foot? They are so busy worrying about the gays getting married or taxes being raised to pre-Clinton rates that the vote for politicians who in turn vote against policies that help the American worker. Take for example the vote against overtime. Talk about harming your citizens! I have more examples, but I need to go to work.

          • spencer1952

            You people (the tea party idiots) always seem to think that if anyone does not adhere to your warped ideologies they must be communist. America will no longer tolerate racist factions with your anti-government buffoonery anymore. Haven’t you noticed that President Obama has always defeated you clowns and all your manufactured crisis? Give up stupid!!!

          • Jeffrey Robinson

            Did you insult someone, Kent?

            I thought that took intelligence to do so. Pretty sure you aren’t capable of insulting. Bigotry and hate, like a blind rat, yes, but insulting – that takes wit, and you’re pretty bankrupt in that department.

            No go on and put your white pointy hat on, burn a cross, but please be home int time to suck on your mom’s dried mammies, cuz she misses you, Kent…

          • vlodko62

            Make sure you line that pointy hat with tin foil Kent, or Obama’s minions will start up the mind-control machine.

          • Kent2012

            I doubt that there will be any cross burning, but we hope to take down some idiots….like the trolls that support kenyan boy. Your comment is in relation to what? Karl would be proud of you and the rest of the parasite crowd that think others should keep you fed and housed, oh and a free phone and bus pass…

          • spencer1952

            Be careful Kent, if you start taking down idiots there won’t be many tea party members left and what in the world would happen to Sarah Palin the queen of idiots?

          • Kent2012

            she would have a chance at the presidential race instead of the lesbian communist that is supposed to be married to billy “the traitor”

          • spencer1952

            C’mon Kent, you could not possibly be that big of an idiot to actually believe the woman who once said, “Folks, this government isn’t too big to fail, it’s too big to succeed” should or could be elected POTUS. Get your tea party head out of you tea party ass!!!

          • James Youngblood

            yeah because teathuglican is so original

          • spencer1952

            The Tea Party has been involved in too way many idiotic and stupid escapades to count. However, they are necessary because they will be instrumental in helping Hillary Clinton get elected in 2016.

          • James Youngblood

            name them.

          • spencer1952

            Are you serious??? I don’t want to develop carpal tunnel.

          • skipfoss

            I hope the bitch get’s taken out along with Obama before she has a chance, Just like they did to the four guy’s in Bengazi

          • spencer1952

            Well you definitely represent the crazed mentality of the Tea Party, and I hope that the authorities will be able to track you down because you sound like a classic psychopath to me.

          • spencer1952

            Can the rest of you people see what kind of person you are siding with? Here we have a person who has threatened the life of the president and a former secretary of state which is a blatant federal crime.

          • Kent2012

            yes they have, doing their best to get candidates elected that believe in fiscal sanity, instead of more entitlement programs to give more Real American’s money to parasites (domestic and international). Not only that these candidates are supposed to follow the constitutional guidelines instead of doing things such as trashing secured creditors and stealing a company(GM) and in essence giving it to the unions for having voted the thief into office….

          • spencer1952

            Kent, all one has to do at this moment is to carefully observe what is taking place in Virginia today. The tea party’s Cuccinelli is well on his way to defeat, the relatively unknown Democrat, Terry McAuliffe, is just about to tear him a new one. Why? Because of Cuccinelli’s utter hatred for American women, and the recent Republican initiated and totally unnecessary government shutdown. Kent, look into the political crystal ball a little closer because this the tea party’s future. You “Real Americans” might as well move to Jonestown, Guyana because you will never get your way here in America and this I can assure you.

          • Kent2012

            and watch as the “traitor” and his $lut wife “the lezzy” support another clown….great TV….

        • XsojX

          I suppose his in article citation confused you immensely. This article is “Posted by Joe Wurzelbacher on Oct 10, 2013 in Uncategorized”. Did you miss that part before you opened your “INCREDIBLY STUPID MOUTHS AND TRY ACTUALLY READING the ARTICLE”? I would call you a joke, but your lack of brain power is immensely depressing!

          • Lillian Abel

            This is very sad, very sad indeed. Must send healing to people who write such propaganda

            btw, The homeless population, that we never had before, exploded during the Regan years and continues to grow today as his ‘trickle down’ policies have been followed for 30 years now. President Obama is a Miracle Worker who has surmounted many obstacles from the Right extremists. He has had an impossible job in cleaning up the mess made by his Republican predecessors. History books will note this one day.

          • MMinCC

            A miracle worker??? HAHAHAHA Yamean like making 20 MILLION new people appearing on the food stamp rolls or the lowest labor participation rate in almost 60 years or 7 TRILLION in new operating deficits or 7 out of 8 new jobs are part time or throwing MILLIONS of people out off the health care plans they were happy with…oh yeah baby, he’s a “miracle worker” all right

          • Kent2012

            he is their “messiah”, next they will tell us that he can change the desert to freshwater lakes and the rocks in Icrapastan into loaves of bread, wheat bread of course, can not have any of the white stuff…..

          • Lillian Abel

            Obviously you are a propaganda reader, do more research, educate yourself with the truth.

          • Kent2012

            another load of bull$hit from the uneducated twits from twitville…be sure to send it to Kevin Jackson, the man of color, he wrote the article…..

          • Kent2012

            yz

        • Ho Bo

          you would not be fun to have a beer with.

          • Kent2012

            Is that BJ ho boy…..

        • Eric

          Joe Wurzelbacher – closet black man

          • Guest

            -closet intellect

          • Terrence Linder

            Joe wizzle!!!

        • cj

          1) Joe didn’t cite properly. He should learn how. It’s considered plagiarism to not do this correctly, and most people learn this in high school
          2) All caps doesn’t make everything ok

          • vlodko62

            He’s only a plumber. If he did finish high school, it was with barely passing grades.

          • Nikkiru

            In fact, he isn’t even a plumber. And his name isn’t even Joe. Which makes him exceptionally phony, even by teabaglican standards.

        • JoethePlummerisaBigot

          I can’t help picturing paintinc56 crouching in a bell tower with a high-powered rifle.

          I’m not sure why.

          • Kent2012

            probably hoping that a bunch of coward communists will stroll by, you know kenyan boy supporters…..

        • readabook

          It’s funny that people with about a high school education and possibly the reading level of an 8th grader that listen to “fox news” think that they are experts on political life. Fox news is considered journalism smut at best. I wouldn’t even consider ‘this” journalism; this “MERICA”…I left out the A on purpose, is a racists rants and raves. Sadly enough, this person represents the “MOB”, which is republican majorities movements. I did not say thinking or thought process because that would elect a higher form of intelligence. So @joeplumber, be a good boi and do what your “master” tells you to do. The consistent ignorance without knowing historical facts is a consistent past-time of the post-civil rights republican party and fox news viewers as a whole.

          • Kent2012

            too bad that you are not bright enough to realize that Joe did not write this article, a man of color wrote this piece…..

          • readabook

            racism vs. prejudice…look it up. My argument still works

          • Kent2012

            shine on twit….

          • vlodko62

            Brilliant rebuttal. Proving the point.

          • Kent2012

            I thought that it was excellent and concise, thank you….

          • readabook

            racism vs. prejudice…my argument still works, just need to change the hashtag#morethanahighschooleducation

          • Kent2012

            too bad you are not bright enough……

          • vlodko62

            Where’s the rebuttal, idiot.

          • Kent2012

            well vodka twit, a rebuttal requires at least two intellects and you and redabook do not measure up…

          • vlodko62

            Really? That’s the best you can do? There’s a winning argument! The vast majority of independent voters are going to be flocking to support you!

          • hdtex

            It’s a wonder you can read at all….Pity about capitalization and grammar though.

          • Kent2012

            And of course you are the editor in chief of “Ditzy” magazine, the monthly for those that can write and not cover anything important. But they know their punctuation……capitalize this hardontx…..

          • Rich Kingdon

            Honey, from reading your posts, you’ve proven you ain’t got nothing worth capitalizing….

          • Kent2012

            well sweetie with kenyan boy’s unaffordable health care you can get your taco repaired, or if you have worn it out, you can get a new one built….or you can change your miniature hot dog for a new taco….

          • dratman

            That makes no difference whatsoever. But Joe can’t see that.

          • Kent2012

            Joe did not write the article…..a man of color wrote this piece

          • armour1955

            here here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Kent2012

          they are not bright enough to read that far…..

        • swan ronson

          I wasn’t really convinced, but the capital letters really turned me around on the whole thing.

        • Jed Covington

          You’re hilarious!

        • Jeffrey Robinson

          Maybe you should look up what an Uncle Tom is, ignoramus.

          And just FYI, CAPS LOCK doesn’t make your lack of a point any stronger, and betrays the childish and cowardly emotional base of your misinformed “opinions.”

        • unebaiser

          It says in the rules there is no tolerance for this capital letters nonsense. What gives?

        • charlesward4

          So not only is this idiotic racist tripe, it’s plagiarized idiotic racist tripe. You go, Joe.

          • Kent2012

            you bet buckywad…

          • Skeletor X

            That was written by a racist BLACK man.

        • molosky

          Joe apparently decided to spread this tripe, so he bears responsibility for it.

        • northierthanthou.com

          Maybe if you use a lot of caps, people will think you are saying something important.

        • Mike Farris

          LMAO I didnt know they put up a fake picture of Joe the Plumber because that picture of him sure looks like a white guy to me Paintinc56.

          • Kent2012

            no $hit, where did you find the clue ? in the clue closet ?…Kevin Jackson, a man of color, wrote it as a contributor to “TheBlackSphere”….

        • booboodevo

          Maybe you should be questioning the white man who took this article from the black man who wrote it WITHOUT ATTRIBUTION.

          • Kent2012

            if it does not take too much of your precious time rereading the piece two things will come to light, first Joe has a number of “contributors” who write articles that he then “posts”. Secondly, by following the link “Read the rest” you will encounter this at the end of the article @2013 Kevin Jackson – TheBlackSphere – LLC….

            © 2013 Kevin Jackson – The Black Sphere, LLC – All Rights Reserved
            Read more at http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/#C1V5D2kz7G18aCiw.99

        • Calvinius

          So Uncle Ruckus wrote the article?

          • Kent2012

            no dill berry it was Kevin Jackson…..

          • Calvinius

            And the difference between the two is?

          • Kent2012

            a lot, but you would not understand, it is like the joke about the roof, it is over your head…

        • spencer1952

          If one white man said that all whites were stupid would you concede to that remark?

        • vlodko62

          Sheesh – even on this website, the anti-Joe comments outnumber the tea bagger comments by a factor of more than 10:1.

        • Micky Baker

          You’re right. They didn’t even check that. They don’t care. The left is racist and they know it so they project.

        • MyHumble

          Ask a black man.. No they were not.. Financially Blacks were in the same situation as today. But things are much better socially now.

    • MMinCC

      Truth hitting a little too close to home pal?

      • Kent2012

        it would have smacked him in the head, but it was too far up his alimentary canal…..

        • jackeyb

          Do you think this person actually knows the definition of alimentary canal before they Google it?

          • Kent2012

            yes and you are talking through yours right now….but no one is listening..

          • hdtex

            Kent LOVES to play in the alimentary canal…..just ask his husband!

      • paintinc56

        HUH?

    • Joe Dokes

      Joe is the reflection of what most Americans think, believe and are. His fame is irrelevant. His flame is ours and will not expire as long as the rest of us live.

      • Imhotep40

        The flame is flickering. . . . Most Americans realize that white supremacy is gasping its last breath of legitimacy. So sad for you and your kind, extinction is an absolute.

        • Joe Dokes

          I am not a white supremacist of any stripe. I loathe and detest anyone who judges by skin color rather than content of character. I await with great eagerness the demise of all racial supremacy, whoever holds to it.

          The point of my comment was that everything Obama was sold as – namely, the Great Racial Uniter – turns out to have been a carefully crafted lie. In fact, he has deliberately taken American BACKWARDS in terms of race relations. Many of us suspected it would turn out thus, and so it has.

          • Imhotep40

            Yep, your kind and the ones who think like you lost in more ways than one, that we can agree on. . . .

          • jancc

            In the first place, the president never touted himself as a uniter of black and whites. Others ascribed that to him. In the second place you failed to show any evidence that he has taken us back in race relations.

          • MMinCC

            Ahhh, take your head out of the sand and your nose out of Ed’s asscra*k-if you think race relations haven’t deteriorated in the past 5 years, dude, you’re nuts

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Yah, race relations are so bad in America, I bet you a black man couldn’t get elected for two consecutive terms as President.

            Oh, wait…

          • Armando Wilson

            I’d argue that they never were great, they were just masked as being fixed. No offense, but most white people never experience racial tensions due to them commonly being the majority. It’s just not that

          • MMinCC

            I don’t agree-over the course of the last 40 years I’ve seen racial tensions and groundless recriminations grow and grow where previously there was none. Black friends I’ve had for many years are now buying into the victimization mantra that Sharpton and the NAACP are preaching.

            What things like the Zimmerman trial, the knock out game, scores and scores of blacks attacking whites for no other reason than skin color…etc have done is alienate truly nonprejudicial people.

            When 6th and 7th generation welfare families believe their plight is due to racism, Houston, we’ve got a problem.

          • Armando Wilson

            Saying that it never existed in the past forty years is false. Saying that your black friends are suddenly buying into the victimization mantra also shows the inaccuracy of your ways. Your friends likely never changed their views, you’re just more aware of them now because you perceive race relations to be worse (and not to your favor/liking). With all due respect, you sound like many of my white friends who like me when I agree with them, however take offense and are shocked when I disagree with them.

          • MMinCC

            In the early 70s I used to go to City Park in Denver at all hours and play 1 Wall with blacks, whites. Mexicans, you name it-made a lot of friends there too. I quit going there in the mid 90s when bangers were using park goers for target practice and now I wouldn’t be caught dead there and wouldn’t ever consider driving through at night.

            Now it sure as hell isn’t white people throwing rocks at passing cars. It isn’t white people playing the knock out game or beating 88 year old veterans to death for kicks or assaulting random white people on the 16th St Mall, is it?

            I can say that not one of the many many conservative friends I have wishes anything but the best for ANYONE who works and accepts personal responsibility for their actions. Nor would any of them exclude anyone qualified for anything based on the color of their skin.

            It’s a million miles from the current mindset of blacks. If more than 5% think they will get an even shake, you can knock me over with a feather. The success of racial pimps like Sharpton to make blacks feel as though they are being held back is undeniable. 40 years ago, my black friends might have felt they needed to work even harder than whites, but they believed they could do anything they put their minds to.

            Now? No way-much easier to blame someone else for your shortfall, sit abck and collect today’s version of reparations. How’s that working for the black community anyway? In the 60s, blacks had a higher marriage rate than whites, now thanks to the destructive policies of REgressives, their illegitimacy rate is near 80%!!

            And take your “with all due respect” and shove it”

          • JessicaSideways

            You do realise that the idea of legitimacy of children is a holdover from a shame-based culture that tries to assert that there is something wrong with sex and works hard to withhold accurate, fact-based sex education, right?

          • MMinCC

            You do realize that children, especially males, born without a father in the home are far more likely to have a lot of really bad things happen to them in their lives don’t you? Like gangs, drugs, violence, prison….

            Maybe that shame based culture where children grew up in 2 parent families wasn’t so bad after all. BTW that term, “shame based” sounds like some gender studies crap-I prefer “moral culture”

            Further if you think it’s appropriate to be teaching 6, 7, or 8 year old children “sex education” then you’re crazy lady. Look around, that’s certainly been the case for quite a few years now and if you can’t see the sewer culture it’s brought on, then there’s nothing I can add.

          • JessicaSideways

            Do you have any evidence for your no fathers = bad things idea? It has been proven that children of lesbian couples tend to do better than their peers. (Evidence: http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1994480,00.html )

            But a sex shaming culture is not a moral culture. Denigrating an entire field of study because it doesn’t agree with your views. That speaks volumes to your intellectual honesty, not. There’s a book you should read “The Way We Never Were”.

            I think the sewer culture is brought on by sociopaths (i.e. conservatives) that teach that it is somehow wrong to care about your fellow man.

          • MMinCC

            Pitiful but you’re perfect example of what happens when you take God out of a culture as you REgressives have been hell bent to do for the past 100 years.

            You might want to take your nose out of books(?) that do nothing more than twist facts to affirm your sick and degenerate life view. Your harping on a “shame culture” speaks volumes about your moral depravity.

            Conservatives who believe in a one man one woman family environment to raise children has worked pretty well for 1,000s of years are sociopaths? We believe in fiscal sanity, less government and traditional values and we’re the ones that are sick? HAHAHAHAHA

            If you want to call gender studies a viable field of study, let’s see how far that garbage would take you in a culture not suffering the nightmare of REgressivism.

          • JessicaSideways

            Your argument is invalid because you can’t take “god” out of anything since there is no god. Next thing, you’ll be getting mad at progressives for taking unicorns out of the culture and blaming bad things about that. What it is, though, is we are advocating against cramming religion down people’s throats and subsidizing it with tax dollars.

            I think of religion as a pen!s. You’re totally free to have one. You’re totally free to love it. What you’re NOT free to do is to whip it out in public nor cram it down children’s throats.

            You are the one who is a republican, you can’t call my worldview sick and twisted when your world view glorifies sociopathic attitudes. You are the one trying to defend a shame culture when the evidence shows that it doesn’t work.

            The one man/one woman family environment doesn’t always work though. For whatever reason, some people aren’t meant to be together. Or they are gay. Or they are widowed. You get the idea. Just because any of these are the case, it doesn’t make the family impacted somehow immoral. A father is not a given, nor a guarantee, nor required – as the evidence shows. It is trying to denigrate single parents, gay couples and sex outside of marriage that makes conservatives sociopaths.

            Oh, do you mean a regressive country that aligns with your political ideals, like Iran? Places where women have no voice because of religiously inspired misogyny. Yeah, those places are nightmares and it is my job to make sure you sociopaths don’t turn us into Iran or another he!lh0le where people aren’t free.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            I know…it’s soooo terrible…People actually becoming self-aware and smart…becoming educated and liberated…casting off the chains of religious servitude…and the worst of it…discovering the TRUE mysteries of the universe and becoming enlightened…terrible thing that….what are we thinking by taking God out of a culture He never belonged to in the first place, and to add insult to injury, daring to actually THINK for OURSELVES???? The SHAME!!! The HORROR!!!! The SIN OF IT ALL!!! Please, mein fuehrer pastor! GIMME MY JESUS CHAINS BACK!!!! BURN ME AT THE STAKE FOR DARING TO NOT BE A SLAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Please try to understand that to completely rely on religious pressure compounded by fictions and mythology will only ENSURE mutual self-destruction…we need to try a little less hard to “find God” by torturing and enslaving ourselves as well as others around us and focus more on living life to the fullest and being what we really are…which is HUMAN.

          • dratman

            JessicaSideways, I strongly agree. I would also like to point out that before reliable, convenient, woman-controlled birth control became readily available, “shame-based” sexual politics was the only game in town, because of the likelihood of pregnancy.

            The practical problem was that a young woman with a baby but without a husband was likely to need long-term support from her family of origin — which the family typically could not afford and/or did not want to provide.

            I am saying that women used to be discriminated against simply because it has always been the woman who becomes pregnant. Let us hope that old, dead age is on its way out the door in a hurry. Since Republicans want to bring it back, they should be kicked out of government forthwith.

          • JessicaSideways

            Agreed. There are sites like Embabyment that talk about forced adoption that was encouraged by the establishment and still is. This has been going on for decades.

            I also want to add that the idea of legitimacy is an awful idea because it shouldn’t matter whether a child is born without a father, or to gay parents, etc. What should matter is that a child is raised in a loving, supportive environment.

            That is what my point was before that previous jerk took my “shame-based” culture comment to a different topic.

          • dratman

            Who is “Ed”?

          • Perrofelix

            Oh yes, a coordinated right-wing racist attack campaign against the president is the president’s fault. I think you just feel that Barack Obama just “didn’t know his place” in the Tea Party order of things. If he “wouldn’t a got so uppity” and ran for president, none of this would have happened.

          • IrishYank2

            I don’t see a regression in race relations either. If anything, it’s just increased racism coming from the white right.

          • eloy

            you sound really smart with them there colorful words, loath, flame- i think someone is in love with Joe.

          • johnsawyer

            Obama has no way of getting racists to not be racists. His mere existence in the White House can’t do that, and he never made any claims that this would happen, or that it was even possible. People are responsible for their own reactions to things, including how they feel about people of other skin colors. Obama hasn’t called for black opposition to whites, nor has he implied this, no matter what you think you’ve heard.

          • c-bass

            since you also “suspected” the downfall of the dow jones, i’ll bet you hate that it is booming too.

          • Josh Williams

            You couldn’t be more wrong. Obama has simply been himself. It is the Tea Party, the crazies, the extremists, who have lashed out at literally every small thing he has tried to do as “communism” and “socialism” and crying about his birth certificate. The racism on the right is actually palpable–you can just feel them seething with hatred for the man. And that is somehow supposed to be his fault. You people are completely delusional. He’s black and he was born in the U.S.–get over it.

          • tangxia

            So what’s your evidence that people hate Obama because he’s black, and not because he’s you know, lefty scum?

          • ekdikeo

            Of course you will find that which you seek, and if you don’t find it, you’ll make it up, and say you found it.

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            That is garbage. The truth is, the election of a black man as President has so unnerved the racists in this country, that it has brought them out from under their rocks.

            And they all deny that they are racist. Don’t they, Joe?

          • lee bell

            Obama did not set us back in race relations. That black man and woman in that White House brought the racism out of the closet!

        • Joe Dokes

          I am not a white supremacist of any stripe. I loathe and detest anyone who judges by skin color rather than content of character. I await with great eagerness the demise of all racial supremacy, whoever holds to it.

          The point of my comment was that everything Obama was sold as – namely, the Great Racial Uniter – turns out to have been a carefully crafted lie. In fact, he has deliberately taken American BACKWARDS in terms of race relations. Many of us suspected it would turn out thus, and so it has.

          If Thomas Sowell ran for President, he’d have my vote.

          • http://cantercast.net/ Lou G

            No, what set us backwards is the teahadists claiming he was born in Kenya and that he was a Muslim and then comparing him to Hitler.

          • Carabella1

            Lest you forget, the week after Obama was inaugurated in January of 2009, the race baiting began in earnest. It’s you people who decided the black man in the White House was abhorrent. You own your racism whether you believe you are or not.

          • Imhotep40

            When did our POTUS claim to be the arbiter of race relations? What promise outside of being president to all Americans irrespective of race did he fail to keep?

            It’s quite sad that you blame a bi-racial man for racial disharmony, the very opposite of what he physically represents. The only ones who have an affinity for race relations from a backwards era are conservatives and racist projecting their racism on our President.

          • dmengdon

            My question to you is how has he been the president to all Americans while giving one of his many speeches he proclaims Republicans are the enemy?
            Republicans aren’t the enemy and neither are the Democrats. Were all Americans
            with vastly different ideas on how this country should be run. Enemies
            not.

          • Imhotep40

            How else would you characterize the obstructionist behavior of the GOTP caucus as it relates to the economy, health care reform, gun violence, voter purging, jerry meandered congressional districts for a full-proof majority in the US House, when the POTUS won the popular vote by such a large margin?

            Pease, stop with the juvenile talking points of criticism about the current administration, it’s just irrational and sad. . . . .

          • Imhotep40

            The idea that you characterize the president’s speech giving ability, respective to his partisanship is intellectually and politically disengenuious. This discussion of this article centers on his race and the race bias of Tea Party affiliates, which you are now attempting to bait and switch to that of political policy and ideology.

            Republican and Tea Party agendas are destroying our Republic, they are a well funded political minority and fringe group that is attempting to thwart to will of the People and the mandate given to a 2nd-term Executive.

            It is one thing to disagree on political ideology on running a country, it’s another thing entirely to damage our economy and punish the majority because they disagree with the minority’s political ideal. . . . vastly different indeed, and yes, the very definition destructive and anti-American policies that can be couched as “enemy” personified.

          • Imhotep40

            dmengdon, your question is intellectually disengenuious and transparent in its contempt for the President’s oratory skills. Proclaiming that “Republicans are the enemy”, I don’t believe has ever been uttered by the POTUS; perhaps more correctly, it was phrased that the political optics, agenda and voting record of the GOTP caucus in Congress is contrary to the growth and prosperity of America and by default, Americans. Stifling growth, voting against expanded background checks for firearms, voting repeatedly to repeal Health Care Reform law, etc, etc. can be construed as policies that are tactically in opposition to or perceived as an “enemy” of the American People’s well-being.

        • tangxia

          Good thing nobody is a white supremacist here. I’m young, Chinese-American, and I wish painful death on liberals all over the world.

          Especially America

          • Imhotep40

            Wow, and you really think those types of wishes will advance you positively and result in a good conservative political ideology?

      • Russell C Lewis

        Don’t presume to speak for “most Americans” you would be wrong.

        • Joe Dokes

          Most Americans prefer liberty over crushing government led by a race baiter. So yes, I do speak for them; I suspect to that same small degree, I speak for you.

          I am not a white supremacist of any stripe. I loathe and detest anyone who judges by skin color rather than content of character. I await with great eagerness the demise of all racial supremacy, whoever holds to it.

          The point of my comment was that everything Obama was sold as – namely, the Great Racial Uniter – turns out to have been a carefully crafted lie. In fact, he has deliberately taken American BACKWARDS in terms of race relations. Many of us suspected it would turn out thus, and so it has.

          • Russell C Lewis

            Yayyy, I won a bet… you are deluded.
            And you don’t speak for me in any degree.

          • Joe Dokes

            What was the bet.

          • Joe Dokes

            Unless you enjoy judging by skin rather than by character, yes I do. If you disagree with that, you’re the racist here.

          • Carabella1

            Liar.

          • MOM

            No, Joe. You do not speak for “most” Americans. The fact that you think you do is pretty scary to most Americans. And yes, you are a racist. Granted, one who does not understanding the meaning of the word, but one none the less.

          • paintinc56

            You are a PAID leftist CU NT agitator, NOT a mom. NO, A BLACK MAN POINTING OUT THAT BLACKS WERE DOING BETTER UNDER RONALD REAGAN THAN BARACK OBAMA does NOT MAKE HIM A WHITE, CHRISTIAN RACIST, NOR ANYONE ELSE WHO PONTS OUT THE TRUTH A RACIST.
            SHOOTING OFF YOUR BRAINLESS LEFTIST CU NTHOLE WITHOUT HAVING A CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKES YOU A TYPICAL BRAIN DEAD LEFTIST.
            OOPS, KEVIN JACKSON, AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE, IS A BLACK MAN!!

          • XsojX

            You must have serious reading comprehension problems. Kevin Jackson was quoted in this article. This is a blog. Do you know what a blog is? Are you somewhere where you can get help with that? I know it is difficult to get any sort of adult education in a red state, but if you aren’t in one, head to your nearest adult learning center and have them teach you the basics. You are calling everyone names and typing in caps but it is you who are mistaken and acting like a fool.

          • c-bass

            the hate is STRONG with this one ^

          • http://www.urban-society.de hassia

            That individual obviously does not know that they can change the font on their own computer if they have problems with vision.

          • MOM

            No, paintingc56. I’m just an ordinary mom. (Would love to get paid for my opinions, but pretty sure that will never happen.) In fact, I was a life long Republican, until their train ran off the tracks under Bush. The more I studied the facts, the more I learned and the more I learned, the more I resolved that our family, and country, should not end up like you.

          • CentralScruntinizer

            You’re awesome! Either you are a performance artist doing an online spoof of a barely literate Tea Party troll OR you are in the running for the crown of the angriest, most undereducated and misinformed rage addict on the internet.

            Either way, keep up the great work.

          • hdtex

            Someone needs his daily lithium.

          • jancc

            You speak for a very narrow minority. Period.

          • paintinc56

            You, a BRAIN DEAD LEFTIST, speak for a bunch of LYING, RACIST, VIOLENT A$$HOLES.
            Perhaps you & the rest of the DEMOCRATS that STARTED the K K K can go LY NCH KEVIN JACKSON, the BLACK MAN WHO WROTE THIS ARTICLE.

          • XsojX

            Perhaps your outhouse hero should learn how to write properly before he copies and pastes an article someone else writes and CHOOSES not to properly cite it. Yes, that nifty little link at the end is pretty, but a citation it is not. The article should have been introduced and quoted.

          • Perrofelix

            That was 18 hours ago as I reply here… probably already dead of a massive coronary on his kitchen floor.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            excuses…the CONSERVATIVE Dixiecrats started the Order of the Knights of Ku Klux, but is the same CONSERVATIVE and now REPUBLICANS (particularly the Tea Party) that continue to help the KKK THRIVE.

          • hdtex

            You are a TRUE idiot.

          • John R. Trevisan

            Troll

          • jackeyb

            So how is the ‘white’ GOP the GREAT RACIAL UNITED? How are Joe’s words unifying all of the races together?

          • paintinc56

            MOTH ERFU CKER, DID ANY OF YOU FU CKING MORONS ACTUALLY READ THE FU CKING ARTICLE??

            At least if we had a white president, black people might have a shot of regaining a modicum of respect.

            © 2013 Kevin Jackson – The Black Sphere, LLC – All Rights Reserved

            Read more at http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/#he6jUWIJTxxBybGB.99

            KEVIN JACKSON IS A BLACK MAN, GOT IT?? HE WROTE THE FU CKING ARTICLE, GOT IT??!!!

          • spiro

            most of the joe dokes of this country will gradually die off over the course of my life. then our country can and will move forward.

          • XsojX

            Is that painful, paintinc56? I mean stupid on your level has to hurt….or it should. I believe you may have an aneurysm happening right now because this level of utter ridiculousness can’t be natural. Did you slip and your head slipped into your arsehole?

          • [email protected]

            The fact that Joe continues to allow you to post bullying obscenities without even a reprimand says all I need to know about at least one white conservative. I don’t know what color you are, but you are most certainly an angry jerk.

          • ekdikeo

            Patriotism and having actually zero experience whatsoever in politics does not make anyone qualified.

          • Andrew

            Get new material, racist. Your rants are getting stale and boring.

          • Perrofelix

            The fact that having a black man in the White House caused the racist nutcases to come out of the woodwork, does not mean that the president is the one who is race-baiting.

        • paintinc56

          DITTO. Or for the BLACK MAN who WROTE the ARTICLE.

      • Carabella1

        Wow, are you delusional.

      • http://cantercast.net/ Lou G

        So I’m guessing you’re going to be upset in about 5-10 years when those old, white, “Christian” Republicans are the minori..oh wait, you want apartheid just like South Africa had.

      • http://cantercast.net/ Lou G

        Hi, TRUE native american here. You don’t speak for me, and you don’t speak for “most” Americans. What you speak for is the old, bitter, white, corporatists who proclaim themselves Christian then act the opposite.

        • paintinc56

          HI BRAIN DEAD, RACIST LEECH, living off of HARD WORKING, LIGHT SKINNED RACE’S PAY CHECKS!
          If you are upset with the BLACK MAN that WROTE the ARTICLE then perhaps you should be calling HIM a racist, white Christian.
          Like your fellow BRAINLESS, ENTILEMENT SUCKING LEFTIST CRACKHOLES you obviously DID NOT READ the ARTICLE or you would have known it was written by a BLACK MAN, POINTING OUT THAT BLACKS WERE MUCH BETTER OFF WHEN REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT THAN THEY ARE UNDER Obama.

          • spiro

            try saying that to me in person buddy

          • XsojX

            You are a moron.

          • Ho Bo

            why do you keep repeating the same stupid line over and over. The issue is about “Joe the plumber” and the article he’s written. People like you who spew hate and anger to make a point, even if your point if hidden in the background of your hate makes discussion worthless.

          • http://cantercast.net/ Lou G

            Except Joe the Plumber is white.

          • Perrofelix

            I see how your brain does that weird thing it does. Native American (now a minority) to you automatically equals “leech,” and “entitlement sucking.” Nevermind that Lou said NOTHING about his source(s) of income, his level of wealth, or any of that. You also believe that other minorities do not pay any taxes (“living off of HARD WORKING, LIGHT SKINNED RACE’S PAY CHECKS!”).

            Also you take as gospel what you read when it confirms your views, no matter how incorrect (“bias confirmation”). For example, that blacks were much better off under Reagan.

        • tangxia

          You look like a fat white guy to me

          • http://cantercast.net/ Lou G

            Thank you for mislabeling me. Funny, only Republicans seem to do that.

      • Warden

        Really fucktard? Then how did Obama win twice? Go stick it up your ass Klansman

      • CentralScruntinizer

        Actually, Joe and you simply regurgitate low IQ Tea Party rhetoric meant to direct anger over the pressure than Globalization and the Crash of 2008 (courtesy of the Repeal of Glass Steagall & Greenspan’s monetary policy_) away from the plutocrats who are screwing you. Therefore that puts you in the 14% of the country who identify as TeaBillies.

        14% < 51% needed to refer to yourself as "most."
        14% = extreme minority of Americans.

      • BufordJr

        “His flame is ours and will not expire as long as the rest of us live.” Is that verse sung to the tune of the Horst Wessel Lied?

      • XsojX

        By most, you mean all the ones you are related to multiple times over? You people don’t have brain cells and logic escapes you. Only morally and mentally bankrupt people would think this way.

      • Justin O’Reilly

        Most Americans don’t go around screaming “White Power.”

    • CayucosDrew

      Why would race matter? If you believed that a black Republican was the best candidate, you wouldn’t vote for him because it might not fix race relations? Stick to fixing pipes, Wurzelbacher. Your political commentary reeks and you’re absolutely racist for allowing race to impact your vote.

      • CentralScruntinizer

        If I recall, he actually isn’t a licensed plumber, so you don’t want him messing with pipes any more than offering his political commentary.

        • CayucosDrew

          I guess Joe the Unlicensed Contractor just doesn’t have the same ring to it. Neither does Joe the Racist, Media-Created Hack Political Commentator Desperately Holding Onto His Fifteen Minutes. I’m surprised this guy doesn’t have a reality TV show yet.

          • paintinc56

            Perhaps you should be bad mouthing the BLACK MAN who WROTE the ARTICLE. Is this BLACK MAN a RACIST because he points out that BLACKS WERE DOING WAY BETTER with RONALD REAGAN in OFFICE than BARACK OBAMA?
            BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR INCREDIBLY STUPID MOUTHS TRY ACTUALLY READING the ARTICLE. YOU ARE SUCH A JOKE!

          • The Franklin

            Sure why not? At least Obama didn’t give my money to Bob Jones University…

          • mjnellett

            No, he gave it to his buddies at Solyndra, and other failed “green energy” companies! I believe it is in the range of BILLIONS of dollars! How’s the return on your investment working out for you?

          • The Franklin

            Far better then any money given to Bob Jones University did! And all that supply side nonsense that you Reaganuats put us through! How’d that work out fer ya?

          • IrishYank2

            I’ll take investment in national companies, whether they fail or not, over exporting the hundreds of billions to Blackwater and the such in Iraq. Keep the money here.

          • XsojX

            He failed to properly indicate he was simply cutting and pasting by inserting quotes (“) and properly using in article citations. Just digging for, copying and pasting such an idiotic article makes him truly the bigger jerk here. He posted it as if it were his words, and deserves the fall out.

          • Kent2012

            another graduate from twatville high….

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Shouting doesn’t make you any less wrong. But it does make you look stupid.

            And yes, that black man is a racist if he thinks the color of a person’s skin has anything to do with his ability to lead the nation.

            And just as people have pointed out, Joe the Plummer (and you) are using that black man’s words to rationalize your own bigotry and racism.

          • tangxia

            Black people can’t be racist, genius. Learn your sociology.

            Oh and even if someone is racist, they could still be right. “Bigotry” is just a grown up way of calling people mean, used when the speaker has no actual argument to add.

          • ken pifer

            I don’t fault the Emperor for being black. I fault him for being a lying communist bent on the destruction of my country.

          • IrishYank2

            Obama is about as Communist as GW Bush was a Nazi. Get over it and please have some basic comprehension of what Communism actually is. Until then you’re just embarrassing yourself.

          • ken pifer

            I’ve been embarrassed ever since the emperor was put into power. You may want to wake up and actually look at what a lawless regime we have running this country.

          • IrishYank2

            Lawless? That’s the contrary to all the new laws put in place. Not sure I understand your point. Every POTUS is a politician, and every politician is a crook, therefore every President is a crook. Nothing new here. Move on.

          • ken pifer

            Very true. Most of our politicians are corrupt and self serving. Americans have become complacent over the years and have allowed an atmosphere to foster that let the liberal take control of our government and put a tyrant into power. Most of our government needs to be removed and replaced with real American patriots, if there are any left.

          • IrishYank2

            First off, if you think liberals aren’t “patriots”, then you’re less of a partiot than they are. I’m tired of this “patriot” sound bite. Really tired of it. It’s like you think you know how to be an American better than your political opponents. It only makes you foolish. Secondly, tyrants such as GW Bush were in power long before the “liberals” took control. Did you completely sleep through 2000-2008? Did you not see what happened? Two worthless wars, illegal wiretapping, torture, massive corp failures, (Enron), massive govt response failures (Katrina), energy policy decided by big oil, the list goes on. And last I checked he gave us a tax break, invaded a country, gave us another tax break, invaded another country, then never even bothered to find a way to pay for either war. GW did a TON of damage to this country, but I can’t really lay the blame on him as he didn’t ultimately make those decisions. So if you actually think Obama is the only tyrant in that mix, then you must have literally erased your memory up until 2008.

          • Kent2012

            you are asking a lot from the communist wannabe troll idiots that are commenting here like censcrewnitinizer and cockusdrew and the bigot and the ho bo and dudkembroke and jessica on her back…

          • JessicaSideways

            Well, you are the troll in this instance. :)

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Really: finishing High School might do you a world of good. And more immediately, the more you post, the longer the line for Quarter pounders and Fries gets backed up at the Drive-Thru window.

          • Kent2012

            up yours commie ho

          • CentralScruntinizer

            See? In 11th grade they might even teach you the meaning of words like Communist and Socialist so you don’t make embarrassing mistakes like this again.

          • Kent2012

            I know very well, up front and personal what communist means. I need no lessons from brain dead trolls…….

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Given your usage of the word, and the construction of your posts, the chances of you having reached that level of education is remote.

          • Kent2012

            not really clown, spent some great time in Nam getting to now some of the slant eyed versions of marx and lenin….we did not have problems with idiots too often over there, because the cowards stayed at home. The same is true today….screwtinizer….

          • CentralScruntinizer

            You keep reinforcing my point every time you post.

          • Kent2012

            the only point you have is the top of your head screwtinizer….

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Really…define the word “Communism,” then. I think you’ll find that “Liberalism,” which IS defined in one part as “a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties…” to be as far from “COMMUNISM” (as practiced by Stalin, for example) as as the planet Pluto is from the Sun.

          • Kent2012

            well just what do you want to have defined? I do not use the term “liberal” or liberalism…

          • Justin O’Reilly

            You don’t use those two words because you don’t actually know what they mean…and probably because it
            involves a modicum of truth and doesn’t rely on scary terminology….

            I
            didn’t ask you to use either of these terms or define them…I asked
            you to define “communism,” and the only reason I included the definition
            for “liberalism” is to help you comprehend just how far apart these two
            systems actually are…not that I really EXPECT you to ACTUALLY
            COMPREHEND this.

          • Kent2012

            then try to ask a question without answering an unasked question. Communism is a failed experiment that involves the instigation of a revolution, the destruction of a sitting government (or the extermination of a sitting monarchy), then the theft of any privately owned businesses and their assets, the destruction of any textual(digital now) references to history and other related information with regards to societal governance methods at odds with communism, the extermination of any intellectuals that are deemed capable of threatening the formation of the “new people’s government), and lastly, the continued efforts to eradicate any neighbors who believe in different forms of government….

          • IrishYank2

            Not seeing how any of your definition relates to the current administration. Please, professor, help me out here.

          • IrishYank2

            You’re a pedophile because some conservatives are pedophiles so you must be one too. See? I just labeled you incorrectly, just like you are doing. Keep up the good work!

          • IrishYank2

            Since we’re misusing labels, from now on you’re a pedophile in my books. Not that you’re doing anything that a pedophile does, just applying your logic toward the use of the word communist. So don’t wory, pedo-man, you like to molest little children because you’re conservative and there have to be conservatives that are also pedophiles, therefore you are alos a pedohpile, you pedophile. BENGHAZI!

          • molosky

            Men of color can also be comically uninformed, FYI.

          • Kent2012

            the most uninformed clowns around the world are the wannabe communists. they are convinced that they are the only ones with the “truth”……when in fact they have been indoctrinated by lies, that is why they voted for the african pretender, kenyan boy

          • IrishYank2

            Hey once again you clearly don’t know what a communist is. Please gain a fundamental understanding and definition before you start labeling people something.

          • NiteOwlett

            http://joeforamerica.com/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/

            This was written by “Joe the Plumber” himself.

          • spencer1952

            No, it was written by an up and coming Uncle Tom by the name of Kevin Jackson.

          • Allen

            I read the article. Go to the “black mans” website and read what I posted. Perhaps you’ll see how dumb both Joe and “the black man” really are.

          • MyHumble

            This article wasn’t written by “Joe” . Joe is just trying to cash in on his notoriety. Which is paltry at best. Good for him.. As far as that scumbag author Blaqsphere. He is just a sensationalist. A Black Hannity or Limbaugh. But Joe is also using a Black mans words to justify his own personal feelings. Obama gets plenty of criticism and disrespect. More than I have ever seen for a sitting President. Mostly undeserving. I recently saw the Obama Werzulbacher interaction again. Socialist please.. Obama made a great statement. ” I plan to do things to help the litte guy”…

        • paintinc56

          Once again, BRAIN DEAD LEFTIST TROLL, ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A BLACK MAN, NOT JOE, F–K you are so STUPID it is BREATHTAKING!
          TRY ACTUALLY READING SOMETHING BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MINDLESS MOUTHS.

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Take yer meds, and relax.

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Kudos: Posts like that tell us that life is working out well for you, with lots of success, satisfaction and good relationships.

          • Kent2012

            we are having fun with all of you commie wannabes

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Fun huh? Sounds more like O’Reilly when he doesn’t like his prompter copy, but if you call it fun, have at it.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            I wished I wasn’t related to that dumbass…actually wait…I’m NOT related to that fool…I just wished he didn’t share my last name…he sounds more like a Goering or Himmler to me.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            well for someone who keeps claiming those of us on the other side are “commie wannabes” you motherf**kers on the right sure DO like the colour “RED” a lot…you wanna know who ELSE loved the colour red????

            I’ll give you a few hints…he also, like you…was a Christian doing his “duty” (and it’s a big doodie!), he, like you…also hated communists….who also, again, like you, hated Democratic Liberalism…he also…just like who I’m talking to right now…hated what you call “darkies,” and was also, like you, anti-Semitic (hatred of Middle Eastern peoples, i.e., Jews and Arabs/Muslims)…wanna take a stab as to who that guy was???

            BINGO!!! Adolf Hitler…the openly hated but secretly loved darling of the extreme Christian far-right conservative wing. And if you know ANYTHING about ANYTHING at all, you’ll recall what HIS final solution was…and I’ll tell you right now…I don’t like Communists (the political kind…I’m okay with sharing certain things, this is supposedly what Jesus taught…I just don’t like how it was practiced in Russia, China and Cuba, etc.)…but I’ll take being called one as a compliment from someone like you…because you honestly can’t tell me what it really is…I don’t care if you DID serve in ‘Nam…my dad did too…and he could clearly tell the difference between Democratic Liberalism and Communism, unlike a certain someone on this thread.

            And I’ll tell you something else, as much as I hate political Communism…I’d rather see the good communism in place than Political Nazism…because that’s infinitely worse…there’s NO good qualities to Nazism. At least communism was born from a noble ideal, and then tainted by shitheads like Castro, Mao and Stalin. And while Stalin and Mao have committed atrocities…Hitler’s had the longest lasting impression on the world…And to be honest, I don’t like the left all that much either. But I find the Right to be much more infinitely EVIL..and if it WASN’T for the extremists and the Tea Party…I’d actually vote Republican once in a while, as long as the bastard doesn’t try to kill his nation with his policies, as our dear Repub Congress has actually tried to do and has almost succeeded in doing…so forgive me if I don’t vote Conservative Republican as defined by the Tea Party…because I don’t want to find myself in a place like Auschwitz…I have elderly relatives that survived that hell, and I have had nightmares about being locked up in a place like that…so I vote left, because from what I’m seeing, the right scares the piss out of me due to their master plans for this nation.

      • paintinc56

        Proving once again how MENTALLY BANKRUPT you LEFTISTS REALLY ARE, the ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Is HE a RACIST because blacks were doing 100 times better under Regan?
        CAN YOU READ??!!!!

        • CayucosDrew

          One, I’m registered independent and politically moderate, but I vote Democrat these days because people like you scare me. Two, the byline says Joe Wurzelbacher (who I believe is white), so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. If a “BLACK CONSERVATIVE” wrote the article, Joe should give him/her credit instead of plagiarizing.

          • cj

            Exactly. I clicked on the link to ‘read more’ only to discover who the real author was. Writing terrible articles is bad enough. Plagiarizing terrible articles is even worse.

          • http://www.grannyguerrillas.com/ Molli Nickell

            This may be a challenging concept to understand, but Joe’s blog is a member of the Liberty Alliance, a group of conservative blogs that share articles. Nobody steals. They share. Golly gee, what an idea.

          • JessicaSideways

            You mean they all share resources as a collective? Gee, I wonder where they got that idea…

            http://benefitof.net/benefits-of-communism/
            “Communism is a political thought based on sharing of efforts and sharing of resources.”

            Are you telling me that Joe the (unlicenced) plumber is a communist, along with everyone else in the liberty alliance?

          • hdtex

            Only because “Joe” can’t read nor write….

          • lee bell

            You mean there is an entire group that cannot produce a cumulative IQ of 100!

        • http://www.grannyguerrillas.com/ Molli Nickell

          Many liberals are too busy screaming and yelling like spoiled kids who want their way to actually READ facts, or heaven forbid, real truth. Or, they were not educated in the skill of “critical thinking” while attending failing schools run by teachers’ unions more interested in achieving attendance goals than in achieving academic ones.

          • SLW

            You’re right, Molli. Harvard really did me a disservice. Terrible education.

            Argue on the merits and not by making assumptions by people you don’t know at all.

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            You know what you call a conservative who is educated in critical thinking?

            An ex-conservative.

          • Kent2012

            no a communist wannabe…..

          • MyHumble

            Nail on the head.. Although I will say for some it hardens them and they decide to toe the line and lie profusely for financial gain.

          • vjerickson

            You are adorable, Molli Nickell. I’d like to put you in my pocket. Golly gee, indeed.

          • Armando Wilson

            Molli,

            My inferior liberal thinking would lead me to ask whether Reagan’s policies had an immediate impact. My of intellect forces me to view things over time to show their true success. Unfortunately, people now days are too quick to label something a failure or success without studying all things that impact it. I’d certainly study policies that impacted businesses during the period cited (and preceding it, since this don’t magically change over night) other than just attributing things to just having Reagan as president. Reagan’s war on drugs has shown to be a failure that has disproportionately impacted minority men. I’d be curious to see the original author of this article, and the impact minor drug records have had on minority men for future employment compared to their white counterparts. Furthermore, what specific numbers is the original author citing? If an increase of African American owned businesses increased during that period, what sales size and income did that business have? When was it created? How did those figures fare compare to noon African American owned businesses? Statistics can’t paint any picture you want depending on how you present the information.

          • JessicaSideways

            No, that would be conservatives. It is conservatives that scream and yell like spoiled kids who want their way, ignoring all the facts or truth. The current government shutdown is a prime example of that.

            There is no such thing as “real truth”, there is only the truth. There can’t be a false truth because that would then be, just simply, false. Is it this kind of double speak that goes on in conservative circle jerks?

          • Andrew

            Facts? Facts? When’s the last time you learned a true fact on your own without having it screamed to you on Fox News? Go to the library. Open a book. Read it. Or is going to a library too unpatriotic and communist to you?

          • CentralScruntinizer

            Was just going to say: “library?” The socialist pooling of books and ideas? What kind of a ‘Merica hater are you! FREEDOM!

          • Amanda De

            Yeah it’s the people who write comments like yours (which makes assumptions in order to write off millions of people’s opinions for having what you describe as the the exact same negative characteristics) who are the really well educated, critical thinkers. No wonder you like the kind of drivel on this site.

          • CayucosDrew

            The thing that bothers me about people like you is that you consider everyone who disagrees with you about an issue “liberal” or “leftist.” Your extremism is what forces moderates like me to consistently vote for Democratic candidates. If you’re wondering why President Obama got re-elected, look in the mirror.

          • hdtex

            Molli go pound sand….any orifice will do.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            We DO read facts…hell, we even do OUR OWN research, hence the knowledge we have on what we talk about AND why we do NOT vote for Right-wing extremists like the Tea Party.

        • Allison Kirkpatrick

          Joe the Dumber is black? Huh, I thought he looked sorta white…

          • JessicaSideways

            Don’t say it too loud, they might claim he is from Kenya next. :)

          • Justin O’Reilly

            And he looks like a &#*$ing Skinhead, too.

        • IrishYank2

          caps lock…..UNLEASH THE FURY!!!

      • Jeffrey Robinson

        race matters to Joe the Bigot because he’s all about feeling comfortable as are his Uncle Tom heroes.

        • Kent2012

          but it does not matter to Jeffrey the bigot, most of the those bad mouthing Joe are bigots, they just pretend that every body else is. There was a time that the US was moving way away from prejudice, not just against those of color, but all bigotry. Of course now we have those shining examples of racist clowns, kenyan boy, eric von holder, minister of justice and gun sales, pig al sharpleston, and one of the worst bigots around lewis “I am a rag head communist lovin pimpola” farakhany….and jessy jacksonoff. There you have the #1 through the #5 of the world’s worst racists…..

          • Jeffrey Robinson

            Wow, Kent2012, thanks for showing your epic stupidity right off the bat!

            first, notice how you don’t at all show or explain how I am possibly a bigot. Secondly, you haven’t the logical skills (or language skills for that matter) to respond to my own criticism.

            No, like the typical baffoon who is convinced he is smarter than he is, you just use words without explanation and ignore the substance of the comment to which you were responding – which is what idiots do, Kent1242 – the year of your cultural intelligence – and idiot you are.

            I know you have a disturbing infatuation with Mr. Plumber, and thus feel the need to defend him even though your are intellectually disarmed. So, again, your rant just comes out as emotional, and then you go on a tangent about other individuals that don’t even pertain to the conversation at hand or the comments that followed.

            So you have the reading comprehension of a first grader. And since you don’t understand what you are reading, save for the feeling that you are, in fact, an ignorant head nodding bobble head, you use key words and miss the point entirely – like, well, an idiot.

            I can’t wait for your next extremely long and incoherent run on sentence that will simply mean “I have a crush on Mr. Plumber and bobble my head to conservative authority.”

            Having no mind of your own Kent: how’s that working out for you?

            Jeffrey Lee

          • Perrofelix

            Kent, my jaw literally fell open when I saw YOU calling someone else a bigot. Maybe you should go back and read everything you have posted here?

        • spencer1952

          I am so glad that serious Uncle Tom, Kevin Jackson is now receiving the negative exposure he deserves. People everywhere are now asking who is this black idiot who wants a white Republican president? He is Joe the Unlicensed Plumber’s favorite Negro Kevin ‘Cricket Face’ Jackson.

    • paintinc56

      Your IQ is about 15. You obviously can’t read, can you? ARTICLE WRITTEN BY BLACK MAN MAKING the POINT that BLACKS WERE MUCH BETTER OFF UNDER RONALD REAGAN THAN BARACK OBAMA.
      GOT IT NOW?? F–K YOU LEFTISTS ARE BRAIN DEAD!

    • IrishYank2

      And keep in mind that his 15 minutes were brought about by Sarah Palin, so basically his 15 minutes were wasted by the worst political joke since Joseph McCarthy.

  • FoxIsForRetards

    Pay your back taxes yet joe?

    • Kent2012

      no twit he will pay when the former secretary of the treasury under kenyan boy timbo geithner, pays his delinquent taxes…..

      • Tokopol

        That’s not how it works, idjit. “He did it too!” is not a defense against tax evasion.

        • Kent2012

          what did you say twit ??

          • swan ronson

            Keep throwing out phrases like “that kenyan boy” to prove wise old Joe’s point about how non-racist everyone is when criticizing the President. You’re doing a great job of proving his point.

          • Perrofelix

            Well, it’s the president’s fault he’s divisive because he’s half-black. If he was just white, then no one would be calling him “that kenyan boy”. So I guess Kent2012 just proved Joe the non-plumber right Well, sort of. lol.

          • Kent2012

            how about african pretender or Benghazi bungler. guess what studly, when a clown like this communist does his best to stir up racial discontent and continues to demonstrate his efforts to ruin the economy and takes the time to bow to every tin pot dictator around the globe there is no need for racial slurs, he is a communist scum sucking pig…..color, no concern

          • redhand32

            Kent2012 is a prime example of someone who only emerges from his Fox “news” bunker to buy this week’s lottery tickets. Can’t you people say anything but regurgitated phrases and Tea Bag talking points. If you remove the words “commie” “socialist” “liberal” “Benghazi,”– mostly on some misspelled sign, you would be tongue tied. It betrays your painful arrogant ignorance, total lack of formal and informal; education. You attempt to talk about “the economy.” But, face it “Kent2012″ you don’t have the slightest inkling of basic Economics 101, –nor a basic academic grasp of American History, the Constitution (which also involves some of the basic case law interpretation). You people simply majored in football in maybe high school. You feel that your “gut check” reality trumps facts and analysis using actual knowledge. It doesn’t. You’re stupid. Read some books, credible mags, come out of the bunker.

          • Kent2012

            and you clown could not find your a$$ with both hands and a flashlight without your messiah holding your hand…

          • redhand32

            No comment. Your puerile response tells any intelligent reader what he/she needs to know about your painful intellectual shortcomings. Because I ration my time for cretins, I will have nothing more to say about you. Best of luck in your lifelong quest to be taken seriously by normal people.

          • Kent2012

            first chance you get take a long cruise back to roosha or chinkee ville

          • Justin O’Reilly

            You just outed yourself as a racist right there dude…

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Why do you hate Jesus?

          • Kent2012

            love Jesus, hate communists and their children, the socialist parasites…

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Jesus was a socialist.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            No, you do not love Jesus…remember, you hate Jews (I think)? Jesus was Jewish…from the Middle East and had brown (not white) skin and brown eyes and dark hair. People that look like this are who you would most likely shoot as “Muslims” and “Terrorists.”

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            I don’t.

            It’s difficult to hate a fictional character.

            Why do you hate children?

          • hdtex

            But he does know how to spell, capitalize, and punctuate. Were you a junior high dropout or is it the meth>

          • JoethePlummerisaBigot

            Of course it isn’t. Which is why you’ve not once mentioned his oh so irrelevant African ancestry. Oh, wait…

          • johnny_o

            how do you feel about that “Canadian boy” Sen Cruz?

          • Kent2012

            he is super, know why ? he uses common sense and has a real understanding of economics…..unlike the communists that are attempting to turn this great country into another communist cesspool………

          • johnny_o

            I just don’t understand why people have to exaggerate. When I hear gross exaggerations, whether from Sen Reid or Sen McDonnell, it really turns me off and I can’t give serious consideration to what is said. You fall into this category Kent.

          • Kent2012

            I guess that is your loss…..It is unfortunate that many can not see what the african pretender and his administration is attempting to do to the USA. We do not need any Euro style socialism/communism, nor do we need a clown as the chief executive of the Great USA cruising around the world bowing and scraping to every towel head and tin pot dictator and adding insult to injury by returning to the country of his real birth and throwing more tax payer money around to his buddies and family….

          • JessicaSideways

            Which is why we didn’t vote for a clown in 2008. :)

          • Kent2012

            that is right and he lost and now we have the emperor of kenyan on the throne and then he was put back on the throne through voter fraud and and twits that stayed at home because Rand Paul was not on the ballot….and now even those worthless government union pukes do not want the african pretenders health care baloney, only the welfare rats and the pseudo intellectuals, who will be trying to elect the lezzy next time…..

          • JessicaSideways

            What Kenyan? All US presidents must be natural born and the evidence has been presented that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Additionally, that fake Kenyan birth certificate that makes it’s ways across the right wing ignorance sphere has been thoroughly debunked.

            http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

            What voter fraud? I mean, there was huge evidence of voter fraud back in 2000 and 2004 to favour Dubya, the cheerleader, but I bet you don’t get all up in a tizzy about that, now do you?

            What “lezzy”? I wish there would be an LGBT president but I think there is too much hate in this country (as you have exhibited) to make it possible for a lesbian candidate to win.

          • Kent2012

            can not be natural born candidate with a fat islamy darkie as your daddy…oh and the gay thing, kenyan boy and the ho support that perversion too. so it looks as though you got your money’s worth…keep on voting communist…

          • JessicaSideways

            So, it’s all about race. Glad you cleared that up. :) And for the record, my father is a white fundamentalist Christian from Texas.

            Being gay is not a “perversion”, it is simply a trait. And could you, at least once, tell me who the hell you are talking about when you say “Kenyan boy”?

            Thirdly, you do realise that the Communist party isn’t an actual political party in the US and that “voting communist” would be impossible, right? Unlike Canada, where there are TWO communist parties that don’t put anyone into Parliament. As Canadian-born Ted Cruz about that one. ;)

          • Kent2012

            some good points, let us see now….yes while in court on bank robbery charges, the defendant can suggest “that thievery is not a perversion, it is a forced life style”, and rape is not a perversion, it is a “natural outlet for the continuation of the species”……

          • JessicaSideways

            Those are not even remotely relevant and here is why.

            Thievery is a choice because, unlike being gay, no one has to steal but they choose to steal.
            Rape is a perversion because it hurts the people it affects and is completely a choice.

            Being gay:
            1) does not hurt anybody and
            2) is an inborn trait rather than a behavioural choice.

            Your argument is stupid.

          • Kent2012

            you should have, he is a Real American, instead you voted for the communist from africa…..your indoctrination in school has been successful…

          • JessicaSideways

            Well, first, Barack Obama isn’t a communist and if he did identify as a communist, his policy decisions aren’t communistic.

            Secondly, Hawaii is not part of Africa, it is part of the US. I am so sorry that you are too ignorant to realise this.

            Thirdly, McCain WAS born in Panama, so if you wanted to vote for the Manchurian Candidate, McCain would have been it instead of US-born Obama. Trying to hold on to that birther nonsense in the face of all the evidence to the contrary is just craziness.

            It seems like your indoctrination has been successful because you believe in so many obvious lies.

          • Kent2012

            well upside down, there is no proof that kenyan boy was born in Hawaii, but he may have been born in one of the other 57 states, doubt that though….no reason to be born in the US and then go to islamy towel head school in indonesia and later to enroll and columbia university as a “foreign student”. Oh and mcshame mommy and daddy were both real Americans, not a fat islamy darkie and a $lut. and in his own words in his book, ghost written by an avowed communist terrorist, billy “the bomber” ayers, the african pretender states that he had no real friends and he gravitated to the communists…not to mention that his step daddy “diddle davis” was a full blown commie and his ho mammy’s folks (that is kenyan boy’s granny and grampa) were self proclaimed communists…but you be sure not to let these “facts” alter your fantasy of what this piece of manure from kenya really is…….by the way you did vote for a clown in 08 and 12. He also the ringmaster of the current circus in DC, leading the demoRATS in the trashing of America…….

          • JessicaSideways

            Well, I don’t know what Kenyan boy you are talking about but the Hawaii Department of Vital Records affirms that Obama did post his HAWAIIAN birth certificate online because of racist conspiracy theorists such as yourself. I think that people like you who refuse to accept the facts show the ‘birther’ movement for what it is: racism cloaked.

            And last I checked, there are 50 states, so the statement should have been “the other 49 states”.

            “Islamy towel head school” and “fat islamy darkie”. Yeah, you are just the face of tolerance, you are. You’re not racist at all. Riiiight.

            Never mind the fact that you voted for Canadian-born Ted Cruz, which was raised and born around socialists, unlike Barack Obama who was born in the United States.

            And no, I told you before, I didn’t vote for McCain nor Romney in ’08 and ’12. And it is the Republicans who are trashing America, not the Democrats. They don’t have respect for the US’ laws nor the legal process, nor the republic, nor checks and balances, nor the constitution.

          • Kent2012

            and you are full of it, kenyan boy made the comment about 57 states, mister brilliance…but you keep your head firmly planted in your backside and do not bother to read your messiah’s own words…well the bomber wrote them for him, you know that royalty can not be bothered with the mundane…and the Hawai document, it is up for speculation as to who created that and when….oh and the world will be better off with out all the isalmy diaper heads and the idiot communist twit$…..

          • JessicaSideways

            Who the hell is “kenyan boy”? You keep refusing to answer that question because we know that Obama wasn’t born in Kenya, any person with half a brain knows that.

            I don’t have a messiah, my religion doesn’t have that kind of paradigm. :)

            Well, I can tell you who created the Hawaii document. Alright, are you ready?

            The Hawaii Department of Health. Mind blowing, I know. And, you can go to Hawaii to confirm this fact. :)

            “The world will be better off with out all the isalmy [sic] diaper heads and the idiot communist twit$ [sic]”

            I am more into challenging false beliefs that the extermination of people personally. I believe in trying to wipe all of the Judeo-Christian belief systems off the map with education and facts.

          • Kent2012

            another islamy diaper head…..

          • JessicaSideways

            Never mind the fact that I hate Islam for similar reasons that I hate Christianity. It is an ignorant religion that promotes hatred, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, slavery, rape and ignorance. To name a few things.

            But by all means, go ahead. Show your ignorance. Call me “islamy”. Go ahead, do it.

          • Kent2012

            see we agree on at least one very important thing……I retract by crappy comment Jessica…..

          • hdtex

            Jessica, you do know you’re arguing with a meth addict right?

          • JessicaSideways

            Curse my unrepentant liberal heart… ;)

          • Justin O’Reilly

            And who’s next after that? Mexicans? Asians? Jews? Again, you must like repeating “Töten sie die Juden! Wir können nicht noch stehen,
            bis alle tot sind! Es ist Zeit für Säuberung” in the mirror every night…particularly that last bit…and if I were you…before going around telling people that they keep their head firmly planted in their backsides…I’d remove my OWN head from my OWN backside first…

          • Kent2012

            dummkopf

          • Justin O’Reilly

            That’s all you have to say??? LOL…you are a funny guy Kent…I like you…that’s why if I wind up in hell for my misdeeds, you’ll be the FIRST guy I look up…so that I can “darken” your time there even more.

          • Kent2012

            bring plenty of water….

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Depends on the Hell…you see, I believe in the Jigoku no Hachi, which
            are 8 hot hells similar to Dante’s inferno…each with a different
            punishment for different sins. Liars tend to have their tongues yanked
            out over and over for all eternity, plutocrats get crushed under the
            weight of the gold they so desire, murderers suffer in lakes of boiling
            blood, things like that. Think LONG and hard about your deeds in life
            Kent, for Lord Enma-o is UNCOMPROMISING in his judgements.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Unverschamt Scheisskerl…Kusotare futodoki…or hows-about stràiceil tuilli (that last one is in Irish Gaelic)

          • lee bell

            Jessica, You write so intelligently. Why are you wasting time verbally sparing with Kent 2012 who obviously has the IQ of an amoeba.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            wow…and you claimed colour was not your concern…hardly a convincing statement coming from someone who uses words like Chinkee and “Darkie.” Admit it…colour is the ENTIRE basis of your whole damn argument…communism is just your idiosyncratic backup crutch, which also holds no water.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            No, he is not…unless he can claim Native tribal ancestry.

          • hdtex

            Poor Kent……go buy another lottery ticket and a gram of meth.

          • lee bell

            Kent, I know some high school dropouts looking for a job. Anything available where you work?

          • Kent2012

            yes, but they will have to go to a short school to learn how to handle a big rig….and read english….

          • JessicaSideways

            What drugs have you been on when writing that obviously false statement?

            Ted Cruz doesn’t use common sense, he uses bullying and gerrymandering, holding this country hostage in order to get what he wants. If you believe that he has a real understanding of economics, then he knows what he is doing to the country and he is a financial domestic terrorist.

            As for the communists, I wouldn’t call Republicans communists but I do agree that they are trying to turn this country into a cesspool and the evidence backs that up.

          • Kent2012

            have you been sucking some of that kenyan boy candy ??

          • JessicaSideways

            You didn’t answer my question. In what world did Ted Cruz use ANY sense in any of his decision making?

            Is that all you can do, respond with ad hominem attacks?

          • Kent2012

            yes as with most Real Americans he believes in capitalism and the free market with the appropriate regulation, he does not believe in communism which is as much of kenyan boy’s background as his islamy schooling in Indonesia and his wonderful friendships with the likes of the scum scuking pig billy “the bomber” aires………

          • JessicaSideways

            But Canadian-born Ted Cruz doesn’t believe in democracy, checks and balances nor the free market. Canadian-born Ted Cruz was born in a socialist country, unlike Barack Obama who was born in the insanely capitalistic United States.

            Who is this Kenyan boy you speak of? It can’t be Obama since I just crushed that nonsensical idea several comments ago. Additionally, Obama is a Christian, not a Muslim so he can’t be the person you speak of.

            You know what, it would be interesting to have a non-Christian president for a change. Christianity is just as insane as any other religion. :)

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Jessica…way to go…I almost told you that you are wasting your time though…you’re arguing with an obvious KKK or Nazi sympathizer who most likely spends every night in front of a mirror wearing a brownshirt uniform and screaming “Es ist Zeit für Säuberung” over and over for hours on end…lol

          • hdtex

            “get bright”….now THAT is profound!

    • MMinCC

      Yaknow, I love the way REgressives discuss any issues-I call it my Liberal Debate Playbook and it’s never never been proved wrong
      1) Ignore any points raised by your opponent and personally attack him
      2) Introduce totally unrelated points into the debate and
      3) Attack them

      Well done REgressive-Polly want a cracker?

      • JoethePlummerisaBigot

        There’s a saying about talking kettles and pots… I forget how it goes.

        • Kent2012

          do not strain yourself, it could cause an aneurism then you would have use the “new kenyan boy care”….it is supposed to be free you know….how about that..

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Obviously sarcasm is lost on you.

      • 914

        I believe it is called scorched Earth. The Clinton’s were masters at it.

    • 914

      You have him confused with Obama’s cabinet.

  • rcdcr

    You are not the man you think you are.

  • simpletony1

    Bull crap. We should abolish the democrat party, and probably the republican party too. But the democrat party is the absolutely worst group of people in the history of the world and have succeeded in taking down our country so far, and it may NOT be recoverable anyway.

    Screw your stupid “white man” concept because the democrats screwed our country, with their most evil contingent ‘putting’ obama into office against the objections of rational americans by lying, cheating and stealing. Democrat frontrunners are among the most inept, ignorant, idiotic, evil and flatly stupid people on earth.

    Two of the best contenders for office are ‘black’, not half breeds with a criminal scumbag following. obama is not black anyway, he’s just a muslim half-greed with a white trash mother

    • booboodevo

      No race warrior here. No sir.

      Simple Tony indeed.

      • simpletony1

        Try to think further than your orifice, dumbocrat. You are one big orifice, dopey demo. It’s people just like you who’ve ruined our country for generations. Black, brown, red, yellow make no difference to me. It’s bad, stupid, ignorant, evil people….LIKE YOU

        • booboodevo

          You sure have a lot of judgements for someone who’s never met me. That’s what Jesus was all about, right? “Judge everyone, all the time, especially those who are different from you”?

          On the other hand, I can totally tell that you’re a simple, simple human with your brilliant retorts like “dopey demo.”

          • simpletony1

            I encounter “people” like you all the time. Doesn’t take much to appraise an actual simpleton, which my tag seems to be to simpletons. Try to pay attention, as if democrats even have that option. Try the dictionary for starters. Simple is best, you nincompoop, especially when connected to the right problems. Simple answers, solutions, objectives. Simple is always best except in the hands of idiots like you

          • booboodevo

            Simple isn’t always the best. Sometimes problems are complicated, and finding the best solution doesn’t include “HURR DURR LETS DO THE MOST SIMPLEST THING NURRRRR,” at least not if you want to solve the problem.

            Simple solutions are good for children and idiots. I am not surprised that your first solution is “simple is best!”

          • simpletony1

            The “THING” is that you look as stoopid as you are and I will not continue a dialogue with an idiot. It’s a waste of my time and SIMPLY annoys the idiot.

          • Perrofelix

            If solutions to our current problems were all so “simple” they’d be solved by now. There are no simple solutions. “I’m hungy, so I’ll eat a bag of Funyons” is a simple solution but not the best. “Let’s just bomb some country, any country because I’m angry that terrorists hit the WTC” is another example. How about “I don’t like some things that are taught to my kid, like evolution theory so we should just abolish the department of education.” How about, “I think gas prices are too high so we need to make as much fossil fuel available as possible so my commute is cheaper?” Simple solution – drill baby drill and further deregulate the oil industry. No need to complicate that by worrying about people who have flames coming out of their faucets from fracking, a decimated tourism industry in the gulf coast, your taxes going to help clean up superfund sites and oils spills and underground coal fires, etc., cuz gee, it’s the simple solutions that all work!

          • simpletony1

            Geez there seem to be a lot of simpletons out there viz a viz obama’s “presidency”. Dogfelix, just shut the hell up; this is all way over your pea brain

          • Perrofelix

            Yes, you have made such stellar contributions to the discussion as: “just shut the hell up…simple is always the best…You are (bad, stupid, ignorant, evil, Dumbocrat, big orifice, dopey demo), the democrat party is the absolutely worst group of people in the history of the world,” and much more. I am humbled by your deep wisdom.

            So I should shut up because the discussion is better served by your ad hominem attacks and generalizations. After all, this IS a right wing website.

          • oldgoatee

            My foundation is cracked and my plumbing doesn’t work because of fracking but they are settling with me and I think the inconvenience was worth it so a bunch of high-school dropout meth heads can make $100K a year–they do spend their money which does help the economy!

    • Keldroc

      Hahaha, wow. Okay, Nazis, Stalinists, rampaging Mongol hordes, Transatlantic slave traders, Japanese POW experimenters, genocidal conquistadors and brutal raping and pillaging warlords throughout human history – move over, because the Democrats are the WORST GROUP OF PEOPLE EVER. Playing “catch the baby on the bayonet” is small potatoes compared to trying to provide poor people with health care, folks, you heard it here first.

      • simpletony1

        I am way, way on your side

      • oldgoatee

        Don’t know about rampaging Mongol hordes or conquistadors, but Democrats supported or attempted to appease most of the others in your list…

    • John Angst

      Sorry Tony but the country was already a wreck before Obama was even elected.

      I actually even remember EVEN FOX News people saying “With this disaster of an economy I don’t think *ANYONE* really *wants* to be President”…. And that was shortly before the election even happened…

      SO at one point even GW fans knew the country was in a disaster. They just have problems recalling that today..

      • simpletony1

        Yes, and I too am a master of the obvious. I often talk about the country being in the shitter for decades, but obama is the coups de gras

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.kauffman.9 Bill Kauffman

    Remember a mother’s gene’s/dna is dominate in a child, therefore Obama is more white than black. By black people’s standards he is known as a malotto. The color of a man does not control how and what he knows or can do as a president. Obama just does not know how or have the knowledge to solve America’s problems. Let us move beyond this racial thing and put someone in that can repair and bring back this great Republic. Color does not matter. It is the man, not their skin color.

    • John Angst

      With this obstructionist Congress we’ve had, “knowing how to fix” or “having the knowledge to fix” ideas are completely irrelevant.

      NOBODY sitting in the Oval Office would be able to get anything done when the majority opposition even admits their “Primary mission is to make Obama a one-term President”.

  • Bernie Keefe

    You, have a website??? Bahahaha!

  • hdtex

    Yes folks “Joe” the NOT-A- Plumber really is that stupid. Really IS that racist. Really is unaware his fleeting 15 minutes of fame were over years ago. What an ass.

  • Herman Nelson

    I really don’t care what color the president is. I do care about what he/she stands for. I’m tired of democrats trying to relive the “good old days” of the Soviet Union and I’m fed up with the republicans having as much backbone as a jelly fish. I want someone that is realistic and believes in fixing this country first and piss on the rest of the world’s problems. How can we help out other country’s when ours is out of order and in a shambles?

    Give me a president that will tell it how it is, no bullsh!t no song and dance routine.

    Give me a president that will tell industry and business to either bring jobs back to this country or face very stiff tariffs, and tell the EPA- you’re out of business, you’ve over regulated yourself out of existence. Inform business we’re not giving illegals citizenship so you can fire Americans and hire newly legalized Americans at lower pay.

    Give me a president that will hit the 5 o’clock news and inform those on “public assistance”- Be at the welfare office at 06 tomorrow morning for community service or job re-training or you won’t receiving a check. 100% participation is required, not an option.

    Give me a president that will audit all federal government agencies and determine if we really need them. Are the agencies a help or a hindrance to the public? Do they provide a product that benefits the public, business and industry?

    Give me a president that will tell the national education association- Quit re-writing history, teach the three R’s and do your jobs or look for new ones. By the way, the federal department of education- you’re fired, education is a state matter. To the IRS- audit higher education institutions and start revoking tax incentives and exemptions that colleges and universities enjoy. Either they’re in it for knowledge and building the country’s future professionals or they’re in it for the money, not both. Want to be a business disguised as higher education institution? Then you can pay the taxes a business would pay. No more free grants or scholarships or student loans. Free lunches are over, do something to earn it. Military service is a good start, peace corp doesn’t count.

    Give me a president that will tell the country’s financial institutions- no more bailouts. You break it, you fix it. You break the law or steal from your investors and depositors-you’re be going to a hard labor camp, not motel prison.

    The list is long but those are my top requirements.

    • http://vaginalquinn.tumblr.com/ teapot

      “I want good things, I hate bad things!”

      - You

    • Perrofelix

      You see the office of President as a dictatorship, able to do anything without the support of congress, don’t you?

      • mattogilvie55

        That’s how liberals see it.

        • Perrofelix

          Herman Nelson is a liberal?

          • mattogilvie55

            No.

      • Herman Nelson

        No. I see the president as an employee to this country, just as I see the rest of the house and senate as employees. Anybody that works for government (local, state and federal) are employees. Get that through your thick head. We the People are the employers. We pay the taxes that pay their pay checks, so they work for US. If congress would get off their dead a55es and do what we’re paying them to do, we would not be having this conversation, would we?

        • Perrofelix

          Our GOP employees have put the rest of our employees on strike, then.

          • Herman Nelson

            Perhaps. The house does hold the purse strings and the senate is run by communists. No compromise means no worky. Compromise with communists and it’ll lead to a .22 to the back of the head and a place in a mass grave.

          • Perrofelix

            Wow. That’s quite the, uh, worldview.

  • ariesmatt

    Wow. You, sir, are what it wrong with this great country. Do us all a favor and move to Sudan or some other lawless nation.

    • mattogilvie55

      Joe is not a liberal, why would you say that?

      • Perrofelix

        A lawless nation, where, say the government is shut down and everything is deregulated sounds like a utopia for many on the right. That is probably why he said that.

        • mattogilvie55

          Oh please. Given that conservatives are the only ones who actually respect the rule of law, that makes his statement stupid.

          • Perrofelix

            Having a pro-authoritarian mindset and following the rule of law are not the same thing.

          • mattogilvie55

            No kidding!

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Then why is it they VIOLATE the law at EVERY turn?

  • Gayskeptic

    This is absolutely disgusting. You may call it “american” for denial’s sake, but let me be very clear about this: You are a bona fide racist person. Now, please go back to irrelevancy.

    • John Angst

      Joe just wants the Leave it to Beaver America back that never existed…

      • JoeNCA

        Those Republicans just hate the 21st century, don’t they?

  • bluejacket472

    I would vote for Dr. Ben Carson for President in a heartbeat. The author of this article thinks conservatives only see the surface of things? It’s nothing to do with the color of skin, but everything to do with the color of a person’s heart.

    • Perrofelix

      He does think that. And with good reason. How long did he have the Fox spotlight on him because he fooled people into thinking he was an average actual plumber?

      • bluejacket472

        I asked a question. You made a statement of fact. Did your magic 8 ball tell you what someone thinks?

        • Perrofelix

          From where I’m sitting the president IS a moderate Democrat. Okay, my statement of fact was actually an inference, where I was agreeing with you about the author’s probable belief that “conservatives only see the surface of things.” I went further to say that his experience as the famous “Joe the Plumber” would validate that belief system.

          • bluejacket472

            Not everyone is sitting where you are, however, your sweeping generalization of an entire class of people does announce the prejudice of where that chair is placed.

          • Perrofelix

            You can talk to Mattogilvie55 elsewhere in the comment thread about sweeping generalizations. And to the author of this article with his “when blacks had sanity ” statements.

          • bluejacket472

            Really? Amazing. It’s an admission of sorts. Unusual for a liberal. There’s a glimmer of hope.

          • Perrofelix

            Admission?

          • bluejacket472

            : the act of admitting or allowing something

            : a statement or action by which someone admits a weakness, fault, etc.

            : the right or permission to enter a place.
            (Obviously a failed attempt by a spelling Nazi to obfuscate the topic when there’s no viable counterpoint)

          • Perrofelix

            No, I have no idea what admission you think I made.

    • JoeNCA

      Hey, how come you never see black conservatives with guns? I mean, they support the second amendment right? You should absolutely love to see black guys with guns, right? Because after all, you love guns and hate racism, so that would never be a problem, right????

      • oldgoatee

        Allen West carried an M9 after they were adopted, an M1911A1 before that, and an M16 variant for over 20 years…

        • JoeNCA

          Yeah but where’s the pictures of him locked and loaded? You never have photo ops like that you do with a white Sarah Palin, now do you?

      • bluejacket472

        Sounds like you hate guns and love racism, so that would be a problem right there.

  • Edwin Patterson

    Joe is a douchebag! End of story. And I’m not hiding behind anything.

    • mattogilvie55

      No he isn’t, lying scum.

      • JoeNCA

        My third grade nephew wants his “I know you are but what am I” schoolground taunts back.

        • mattogilvie55

          Than go give them to him.

      • Edwin Patterson

        Bwaahahaha! Truth hurts huh bitch?

        • mattogilvie55

          Never known a liberal to speak the truth. I doubt I ever will.

          • Edwin Patterson

            Hahahaha!

          • Justin O’Reilly

            I’ve never known a conservative to even know what the word “truth” even means.

  • John Angst

    One big flaw.. There was a TON of SEETHING mad people about Obama being President before he had even been sworn in or signed even one bill into law.

    IF not racism, what was it? You didn’t even have any policies that he’d enacted yet to BE so mad at him about…

    • John Angst

      I remember thinking GW Bush was going to turn out to be a horrible President, but I didn’t *HATE* the man with a passion, question everything about his personal life AND attack everything he did – whether it be true or not…

      It actually wasn’t until the day he said ‘no one predicted the levee’s would fail’ that I lost any and all respect for that man. (There is video of him sitting at a conference with people telling him the levee’s were going to fail.)

      So ya Joe, hate the President ‘for his policies’ except, you hated him before he even had any policies out to hate. Explain that.

      • oldgoatee

        So Katrina was Bush’s fault? Probably because all of the people in the South like to drive SUV’s and pickup trucks (try getting your sissy arugula and tofu to market in Prii…)

      • mattogilvie55

        we knew from the getgo what his policies were going to be. As I told the other guy, our fears have been more than justified.

        • HomerTh

          Gosh, I wish I was a fortune teller like you!

          • mattogilvie55

            You didn’t have to be a fortune teller. You just had to pay attention.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            So basically, you’re telling me that you “just had to pay attention” to accurately predict future events…wow…I guess that makes EVERYBODY Nostradamus them…you know that guy on the radio that said that the rapture was going to happen on May 21, 2011? He was “paying attention” too…

          • mattogilvie55

            No he wasn’t. He was repeating false doctrine.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Just like you….it can’t work both ways….and he claimed, as you have that he was paying attention to biblical analysis.

            But regardless…if you can predict future events by “paying attention,” then so can anyone else who cares to become a dimestore fortune teller…and by the same token, if nobody can foretell future events (which is more likely), then neither can you, in any way, shape or form, whether it’s repeating false doctrine (and you are right, it WAS false), or the convenient excuse of “paying attention.”

            And may ask to what you were paying this attention? Because no credible information source would EVER be so STUPID as to make bullshit claims like “we KNEW he was socialist” or “we KNEW this guy was this, that or the other thing, before even taking office.”

            You suspected…that is all…and not even based off any real traits of a typical suspected socialist.

            You only KNOW something when there is actual evidence, and you have NONE.

          • mattogilvie55

            Obamacare is all the evidence we need.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            That wasn’t a factor then and you know it. But don’t you mean ROMNEYcare?

            Just
            face it dude…you have no real basis for your hatred toward liberals
            other than just to hate them….and you can’t stand a black dude in the
            White House (you probably think that it’s call the “White” house for a
            reason, don’t you?). Admit it.

            And you probably hate me too, not just because I’m a liberal, but for the reasons that I’m a liberal…

            I have Japanese, Chinese, and Jewish Blood in addtion to Irish. I have a black cousin-in-law, my cousin is married to a Puerto Rican, and my sister is married to a Mexican. I don’t know why I admitted to that as it’s pointless, but I did. And these are the reasons I vote left, because I used to vote right and after getting to know some of those people, I experienced FIRSTHAND just how fond these people were of Jews, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians. I even identify as Christo-Buddhist…meaning spiritually, I believe in Jesus (not Republican/Conservative Jesus, clean shaven with a blonde crewcut and blue eyes thrusting his hand in the air screaming “Sieg Heil”, but the Jesus that had dark hair and brown skin that preached love, tolerance, fairness and equality and all the other little liberal things that you hate), but philosophically I am a Buddhist, that tries to seek enlightenment and live a harmonious life. The hardassed Christians literally dragged me to the altar, held me down and tried to exorcise me…these were all right-wingers that worshipped the ground Sean Hannity walks on.

            So I don’t care if Obama/Romneycare is all the “evidence” (which it is NOT) you need…that tells me that you are extremely judgemental, you are obsessed with being angry and look for things to be angry about and you’re not happy unless you are being a bigot.

            You are a sad little man and I genuinely feel sorry for you that your education never went past 3rd grade homeschooling. And I really hope that Bill O’Reilly, Hannity and Combes, Rush Limpdick and the gang don’t tell you to go jump off a cliff or a tall building because I really am afraid that you’d actually do it, and even if I think you are delusional and the poster child for the need for education, I don’t wanna see you die.

    • mattogilvie55

      It was fear of what he would do, being a socialist and all. We knew what was coming. Our fears have been more than justified.

      • HF

        Yup, Obama is totally a socialist. Totally.

        Dipshit.

        • mattogilvie55

          Yes, Obama is both.

          • NRafter530

            You should probably read more about socialism.

          • mattogilvie55

            at my age, I have probably forgotten more about socialism than others think they know. But I stand by what I said about Caesar Obammus. He is an America-hating socialist pure and simple.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Only cos he doesn’t parrot your horseshit dude.

          • mattogilvie55

            Don’t ever call me a liberal again, I’m far better than that.

          • HF

            Yeah, let’s see….the deficit is down 32%. Stocks are at record levels. New home sales are rising. Consumer confidence is at a 6-year-high. The massive, massive gap between the rich and the poor is still growing at the most alarming rates in the history of America.

            Obama is the WORST. SOCIALIST. EVER.

            Facts are important. Pay attention to them.

          • mattogilvie55

            I’m still waiting on you to actually post some. Nothing you just said is actually true.

          • HF

            Um. I did. FACT: The deficit is down 32%. FACT: Stocks are at record levels. FACT: New home sales are rising. FACT: Consumer confidence is at a 6-year high. FACT: The massive, massive gap between the rich and poor is still growing at the most alarming rate in the history of America.

            FACT: If Obama was even sort of a soclialist, none of these things would be happening.

          • mattogilvie55

            The deficit is not down. the only reason the Dow is up is because the Federal Reserve is pumping money into Wall Street, which is keeping stocks artificially inflated. In other words, it’s a false recovery. And consumer confidence is NOT up. The only thing you said that is correct is about the housing market, which was bound to recover sooner or later. What you failed to mention with that little tidbit is the fact that home prices have still not recovered from the slide 5 years ago.

          • HF
          • mattogilvie55

            Leftwing websites are not credible. If you can find something that was written by an actual human being, then we will talk.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Of course it isn’t true…right? After all, it’s only true if YOU or Fox News states it…I forget who actually said this but it’s true that “Most narrow-minded people see only two viewpoints: The wrong one, and their own.”

          • mattogilvie55

            Oh, so now you are calling me a liberal again.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Just HOW in the hell do you equate quoting wisdom to calling you a liberal??? First off, Liberals DO NOT listen to that hate-filled propagandist lie machine you call FOX NEWS…and secondly, how is enlightening you on how narrow-minded people like yourself see the world, calling you something you OBVIOUSLY are NOT?

          • mattogilvie55

            You liberals just listen to the hate-filled leftwing crap known as MSNBC, CurrentTV or Al Jazeera TV, whatever the hell it is called today. You have never heard anything hateful said on any of the FOX talk shows, not one. LIAR

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Oh, yes, and all those people that get the same information as any other
            news network, plus what other people have found out, can’t POSSIBLY be
            true in any way, now, could it??

            I don’t watch Al Jazeera, as
            they are religiously based and therefore not liberal, at least not
            completely…and I HAVE watched Faux Noise, and hateful speech is ALL I HEAR
            ON ALL THEIR PROGRAMS! Deal with it…LIAR.

          • mattogilvie55

            You are simply not telling the truth. You have never heard anything hateful from Hannity, O’Reilly, Greta, or anyone else on Fox. You are only calling them hateful because you do not agree with it. However, you constantly hear hateful rhetoric from the likes of Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz, et. al.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            No, you are simply DENYING the truth…don’t tell me I never hear anything hateful from these assclowns. How many times have they shouted at their liberal debate guests to “SHUT UP!” while presenting their viewpoints??? You forget, troll, I used to be a conservative like you until I found out FIRSTHAND what they are really all about. And what cause would I have to lie about my findings? I stand to merit nothing from this. O’Reilly yells “SHUT UP!” at his guests EVERY 5 seconds they present their viewpoints. Rush Limpdick lost almost EVERY one of his sponsors because they were embarrassed to be associated with him for all the “non-hateful” things he says about minorities, LGBT people, people struggling with sobriety (while he himself is a shameless drug addict), and people living with serious diseases (remember what he said about Michael J. Fox? Parkinson’s Disease is one of the worst things you can ever have…it destroys the quality of life, and Rush had the UNMITIGATED GALL to make fun of him and other afflicted individuals), among anything and everything up to and including the poor (while he sits there smoking his $5000 cigars). There is NOTHING to admire about this man, or any of these people for that matter. Facts mean nothing to them, Sean Hannity was caught lying mid-broadcast on several occasions….And they also derived at least two of their most recent “news” stories
            from political satire without even FACT CHECKING. NOT GOOD JOURNALISM.
            Ann Ghoulter (admit it, she looks like a ghoul, I know that’s not nice but it’s true) and Bill O’Reilly have advocated for the deaths of several political opponents (like Michael Moore) simply over opposing viewpoints. Ann and Palin have even stereotyped minorities and called for the incarceration of “thugs” and “gang members” (terms they both used to overgeneralise racial minorities like Blacks and Hispanics). Yet they never say anything hateful…As a former conservative that has watched Fox News and hearing these people for myself, I’ve come to realise that they are every bit as hateful as that guy you see at a Tea Party rally wearing a white hood, or that other guy sitting at the other end of the rally waving a swastika flag, and anyone who can watch the same damn thing and not reach the same conclusion is either in complete DENIAL, STUPID, or DELUSIONAL.

            FOX even admits to lying, and claiming they are a propagandist organisation created for entertainment as opposed to being a real news organisation….however, you won’t hear any of that on FOX because they’ll lose most of their, *ahem*, more educated fan base.

            Oh…remember Glenn Beck? Mr. Guanobrain? He was fired for being too extreme for them. That’s pretty bad. But more than that, he put their already useless reputation at risk by actually saying what the rest of them actually think…his mistake was just not veiling it so that their viewers could be justified in their hatred.

            More and more people that work and have worked for Fox News are
            providing more and more evidence exposing their dishonest and extremely
            biased reporting.

            You gonna call them liars too?

            By the way, I have yet to hear Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, or Rachel Maddow advocate for the killing of their political opponents.

            Just admit it…the extreme far right is a lying, propaganda-spewing hate machine that wants America to return to a time when slavery was still an acceptable practice, or a time when minorities and religious dissidents were rounded up and placed into concentration camps.

            That’s not the America my poppa bled for, and it’s not the one I’ll protect…and I’ll bleed every last drop of blood to make sure that doesn’t happen…because if conservatives send any brownshirts after me (I’d be honoured to make their Nixon-styled “enemies list,” by the way), I’ll go down fighting, as is a samurai warrior’s destiny.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            By the way….give me a day or two and I’ll even provide facts and evidence to back the above statement too. And I’m even willing to take a LIE DETECTOR TEST.

          • mattogilvie55

            Everything you just said is a lie and you know it is a lie. That is all you liberals do, is lie. I will not admit to anything that simply is not true.

            And yes, I have heard Schultz, Olbermann, and Matthews advocate the death of conservatives…they have wished it many times. I don’t care if you haven’t; I have. Michael Moore has repeatedly advocated the deaths of conservatives. The worst thing you have ever heard out of Hannity’s mouth are the words extreme, radical, and leftwing. wow, so hateful and venomous. Limbaugh never made fun of Michael J Fox’s disease. He ridiculed him for trying to use his disease to lambast the government for “not spending more money on research.” Whether you agree with that or not is another subject, but that is what actually happened. Glenn Beck has never said anything hateful about anyone, as it is simply not in his nature. Ann Coulter says a lot of cutting things, but she is simply using the tactics of leftwingers on themselves, and they don’t like it. Cry me a river.

            Oh, and for the record, if anyone ever came after you, you would simply roll up in full fetal position and cry like the little baby you are, and I can prove it. I will give you my home address if you wish. I am still recovering from major cancer surgery, and have lost over 100 lb because of said surgery. As of right now, I’m a physical pushover. And you STILL don’t have the nerve to face me.

            And your daddy didn’t bleed for anything, except his own leftwing greed. Don’t hand us that crap. Your daddy is nothing more than a leftwing pile of crap just like you, and is unworthy of living in America, just like you. Don’t like what I said? Come get me, junior.

      • Taleisin

        You mean like the death panels and death camps?
        Please tell me, what fears? More wars?

  • JoeNCA

    Yes, that’s why when George W. Bush (just to clarify, a white man) was president, those who opposed his policies were never called “un-American” or “standing with the terrorists.” You know, patriotism!

  • HomerTh

    Sometimes I am completely dumb-founded. I can hardly wait to see what idiotic things you will come up with when a woman is elected president.

    • mattogilvie55

      If it is a conservative women, we don’t care.

      • Perrofelix

        But if it’s a liberal woman, you’ll be looking forward to an article, “America needs a male Republican president”

        • mattogilvie55

          A male republican president is far better than a female liberal president.

          • JoeNCA

            Because of the male part?

          • mattogilvie55

            Not that you would know anything about make parts, since you don’t have one. but you know what I was talking about, puke.

          • HF

            …puke? How OLD are you??

          • mattogilvie55

            57

          • oldgoatee

            Same here!

          • mattogilvie55

            Well, us old farts gotta stick together, right?

          • Perrofelix

            Yes, your point is that that a white male is always best. Otherwise we could just have an article “America needs a Republican president” but the juice of “America needs a MALE Republican president” is in the “male,” just like the juice of this article is in the “white,” not the “Republican.”

          • oldgoatee

            Nope, a conservative is always best! Mia Love is a black conservative woman and I wouldn’t mind seeing her in higher office. Susana Martinez is a Hispanic conservative woman and I wouldn’t mind seeing her in higher office…

          • mattogilvie55

            No, liar, a conservative male is far better than a liberal woman. Than again, a conservative dog would be better than a liberal woman. Gary Ridgeway would be better than a liberal woman!

          • Justin O’Reilly

            I’m pretty sure you just outed your misogyny by comparing women to dogs (and stating that a dog is above women on a hierarchical perspective to boot).

          • bluejacket472

            At this point, we may be so far past the tipping point, that it doesn’t matter who is President.

          • mattogilvie55

            You may be right, but I’m not willing to throw in the towel just yet.

          • bluejacket472

            I would hope not, as I’m not either. In spite of the obvious below board tactics we all saw on the last election, I still intend to vote. My comment to you was only to recommend you spread some “eggs” to other baskets should this applecart finally turnover. There will be a point in the debt where the interest being added to the total, will outpace our payments to it.

          • bluejacket472
      • M Jackson

        On, is Miss Lindsay Graham running?

        • mattogilvie55

          Is LIndsey’s wife running for public office? I wasn’t aware of that.

          • oldgoatee

            And Mr. or Miss Lindsey Graham is no conservative anyway!

          • mattogilvie55

            I will not argue that point. but Mrs. Graham would be far better than Mrs. Clinton.

          • oldgoatee

            Mrs. Graham, Mrs. McCain, Mrs. Boehner, Mrs. Christie…probably most RINO wives would be better than Shrillary!

          • M Jackson

            Queenie has an unseen ‘wife’ who lives in Canada? No, not this despicable closet case.

  • oldgoatee

    I haven’t seen so much misdirected and out of place outrage since Carter-Clinton-Obama supporter Paula Deen made the mistake of saying that she once uttered a proscribed word back in the day. What I think (and I may be wrong) Joe’s trying to say is that when Reagan or either Bush was criticized, we just sat there and took it, but with Clinton (the “first black president”) it was only sex, which I could care less about, draft-dodging and disrespect for the military was another matter, and with Obozo all criticism is racism rather than disagreement with the man’s policies.

    • mattogilvie55

      At last, someone gets it!

      • oldgoatee

        Most of us do, but the ones who don’t sure are vocal!

        • HF

          That’s because a lot of you are too ashamed to publicly admit how racist you are.

    • JoeNCA

      Please. Republicans have been milking racism for decades ever since Nixon used the Southern Strategy to gain the vote of disaffected racists. It comes across as racist because it is racist.

      You know why Republicans care about a baby when it’s in the womb but not out of it? Because you can’t tell on an ultrasound if it’s a white baby or a black baby. Once they know, they don’t care. Healthcare? Education? They might be black and if they are then you immediately think they’re just lazy black kids, sucking at your teat.

      You’re racist. Own it.

      • oldgoatee

        We would like for all babies regardless of color to have parents who love them and who will educate them, make sure they get an education whether it is charter or private or public schools, cover them on healthcare until they can make it on their own, and teach them to make it on their own, I guess that is racist.

    • Taleisin

      When Bush was president it was called treason to criticize him or his policies.
      Why do Americans have such bad memories? I hope with Affordable Healthcare,
      you will at last be able to get proper medication to fix that.

      • Perrofelix

        Yes! “You’re with us or you’re with the terrorists” and then it was decided that the Dixie Chicks were with the terrorists and they were blacklisted from country radio and got death threats. Why? Simply because Natalie Maines said, the Chicks were “…ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas.”

        • Taleisin

          This piece of racist garbage was obviously written to outrage liberals.

  • Chavisa Woods

    It;s also so not racist to refer to black people in sweeping terms, like ” Blacks have disagreed with policy positions of about every Republican president in the modern era, including those who have helped them.” This article is gross.

    • JoeNCA

      Seriously. 30% of African Americans are voting for Chris Christie, an unheard of amount for a Republican. Because even when he disagrees with the president, he still respects him as the president.

      • Perrofelix

        Sadly, I think most of the commenters here would call Christie a “RINO” precisely BECAUSE of that.

        • oldgoatee

          Nope, his gun-control, cap n tax, amnesty and pro-Muslim stances far outweigh his fawning over Obozo…

          • Perrofelix

            Well great, I do enjoy a circular firing squad on the right side of the aisle.

          • Justin O’Reilly

            Amnesty? Pro-Muslim? What’s wrong with that? Amnesty is the very foundation of our society…you know…fair and humane treatment of everyone? And pro-Muslim…of course you think just because he’s not persecuting them for their beliefs (which is vehemently against the Constitution on many levels) that he’s “promoting” their religion. I’m so tired of you religious extremists trying to turn our government into a theocracy based on the Christian religion. Freedom of Religion does NOT mean, establish YOUR religion as the law of the land and then repress all other views by any means necessary, up to and including mass extermination of those who practice these beliefs.

          • oldgoatee

            What, I used to believe in political asylum for those fleeing the Fascists and Communists, but I wonder now…fleeing low wages and no benefits is not exactly the same. Let them stay in their countries and fight for what we have!
            And a socio-politico-religious movement for whom lying to those outside their belief system is not only encouraged, but required? How would it be possible to accept a loyalty oath to the USA from someone who adheres to this system…

          • Justin O’Reilly

            What if they CAN’T fight? It’s not so easy as to just do that. And what socio-politico-religious movement are you referring to? And whose belief sytem? And you missed my point…you extremists denounce every attempt to stop you from forcing YOUR beliefs on others and persecute them if they do not comply as an attack on your religious freedom. Well what about everyone’s religious freedom? I’m a Christo-Buddhist…and I can tell you right now the very second you read that you’ll be like “shit…there’s no such thing, there is only ONE God and Jesus is His only son, and if this kid doesn’t accept that, then a minister should beat him into submission lest we lose another one to the Hell reserved for everyone ‘not us.’” This is how the Right thinks, whether you choose to believe that or not. But that’s not so weird to me because while spiritually I’m a Christian (Catholic), philosophically I’m a Buddhist, and as such I respect ALL walks of life and I feel it’s a waste of time and energy, not to mention it is morally WRONG to persecute others simply because their beliefs and customs don’t fall in line with ours, or more specifically, yours. And if you’re referring to Sharia Law, I’m against that too. I’m against ANY form of government or political movement that seeks to forcefully impose its will on an entire populace. Hitler was like that…he felt it was his Christian duty (and has made several admissions to the fact, as well as being under God’s protection) to establish (albeit his own twisted version) a theocracy and exterminate all religious dissidents, starting with gypsies and Jews, then he moved onto other political dissidents that he wasn’t in favour of. So I hope you can understand my concern over the direction that today’s Republicans are taking…and why it is I do not vote for them or the organizations they represent…and if they weren’t controlled by the Tea Party and KKK and Stormfront, I’d actually vote for a Repub once in a while…it’s a matter of keeping things within reason.

          • oldgoatee

            Actually, you’re very reasonable and I wouldn’t in theory have any disagreement with you…

  • NunyaGDbidness

    Do us all a favor. Please go take one of those guns you own that is still legal, and give the barrell a nice suck before you pull the trigger and free us from your ignorance forever.

  • Jordan Burke

    Classic example of when the under educated and ignorant get fame.

    Look, he has his own little website and grassroots activists.

  • M Jackson

    The stench of self-satisfied ignorance from a total Tool, circling the drain of the irrelevant fringe-Right.

  • Russell C Lewis

    Wow, how can you have time to manage a website, don’t those Klan meetings keep you too busy?

  • erinna1112

    No, you’re a racist. And one who can’t do math besides.

  • HF

    What…? Are you kidding me with this steaming pile of crap?!

  • IBPC

    Stick to Plumbing! A- Hole!

    • planetwingnuttia

      he cant he still doesn’t have a license. Speaking of Income decline…have you paid off your Tax Lien..I know you can’t blame Obama for that…you built that yourself!!!!

  • Guest

    Troglodyte.

  • SouthTxSlacker

    Ugh! Will you PLEASE go back under the rock from whence you came?

  • koolkat_1960

    Thanks, Joe the Dumber.

  • sirald66

    Joe, didn’t you mean a “white republican rich southern male christian?”

    {cough}

  • skipperbob49

    Give it up Joe… nobody care about what you think. Never have… never will.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      I for one do, so there goes your theory.

      • skipperbob49

        Just goes to show you can fool some of the people ALL of the time.

        • Retired MSGT USAF

          At least he knows how to work with his hands. He works in a very hard job that is something I doubt that you do. You actually have to have a brain to be a plumber. Or the crap runs up into your house and makes YOU feel right at home.

  • Liane Blanco

    You should be ashemed. You know there is no way in hell that America will have you for a President, but you’ll play on the idiocy of your fellow morons and take their money for your “campaign”, won’t you?

    Low life piece of garbage – go back to plumbers school.

    • Retired MSGT USAF

      Man the HATE in here! Why?

      • oldgoatee

        Go figure? Didn’t expect to see this much hate except for an article entitled “Sarah Palin and Allen West Having Affair and Ann Coulter Watches!”

  • Stephen McAvoy

    Dear Lord, what an amazing lack of self-awareness this guy has. Not only a profound misunderstanding of the word “racism” but a clear and disturbing lack of any realization that he is expressing and promoting racism in the very article in which he proclaims he isn’t racist. What a disgusting human being.

  • Retired MSGT USAF

    Looks like someone opened up the Crazy House doors today. The liberal/communists have invaded the website. Too Fing bad.
    How about any of you liberal idiots join the military and go help in the War on Terrorism. Too weak in the knees, or is it just that most of you are COWARDS.

    • anthony002

      President Carter, Ted Kennedy, Charles Rangel, Bob Kerrey, John Kerry and Tammy Baldwin, Al Gore to name a few are veterans.

      Not sure what point you are trying to make given that former VP Cheney and Newt Gingirch had more important things to do, as opposed to serving.

      • oldgoatee

        Al Gore? The only Spec 5 “war correspondent” to have his own bodyguard?
        Tammy Baldwin-no mention of military service in any biography.
        John Kerry-Mr 3 Purple Hearts for splinters and a Bronze Star for shooting a 15-year-old in the back (but running away was very threatening)
        Teddy K…everybody in the ’50′s was drafted, much more yes, democratic, then…same with Charlie Rangel.
        Jimmah Cahtuh-hid out from WWII in the Naval Academy, should have enlisted in the Navy or whatever service and gone to the Pacific where others went…
        Bob Kerrey…a true hero. Also a self-made businessman. How did he wind up a progressive unless it got him movie star @#$%^?

        • anthony002

          I stand corrected on one point. Tammy Duckworth, not Tammy Baldwin.

          Ted Kennedy was not drafted, he enlisted. Yes his father intervened to get him a safe assignment. No doubt, many parents with that kind of influence who had lost one son in a war and almost lost another in that same war, would do the same.

          Charles Rangel also enlisted, and earned a Bronze Star. So while I confused the two Tammy’s, you on the other hand have no idea what you are talking about.

          other than my error on Tammy Duckworth, you cannot dispute the accuracy of my rebuttal to MSGT USAF, so you denigrate the service of the people I cite.

          whatever turns you on

          • oldgoatee

            Joe, Jack and Bobby Kennedy all enlisted during WWII. Joe and Jack became officers and Bobby remained an ordinary seaman. Teddy did volunteer after being kicked out of Harvard. He tried for Military Intelligence but couldn’t get a security clearance. His dad did keep him out of Korea, though. He made PFC in 22 months in wartime, I made SP4 in 13 months in peacetime…

    • oldgoatee

      None of those he mentions are exactly a Hackworth, a Horner, or a Halsey…

  • moelarryandjesus

    Joe the Plunger Holder emerges from the sewer of history to drop another turd of unwisdom in public.
    Just flush and go away, Joey, you infantile boob.

  • Texas Belle

    I would definitely vote for Dr. Ben Carson, who is black. The liberals would then be the ones who would be racists if they criticize him.

  • Steven Kloppenburg

    If you had a brain you actually would be a plumber but alas you’re only a strawman for hate.

  • Greg

    Reaganomics have been disproved. This is so ridiculous on so many levels.

  • usorthem3

    If American wanted a WHITE Republican President, then it would be MITT right now, but reality shows it is not, so you are wrong & racist.

  • Ian Smith

    The presence of inverse racism does not validate your racist statements that white presidents are necessarily more qualified than a black one. Nor does any sane person believe that all criticism of our current black president is inherently racist. Maybe just yours.

  • Dee Ree

    Wow, Obama sure does scare the crap out of white men. They are so afraid they are losing their power:/

    • Cuppa

      Not all of us. Some of us are happy to share with everyone!

  • EmilyChance

    Wait, wait, wait… criticizing the president was “the American thing to do” before Barack Obama? I seem to remember a ton of conservatives very publicly saying that criticizing the president during war time was “un-patriotic.” Remember the backlash the Dixie Chicks got for it?

    As for the “fact” that you’re not racists, I’d like to remind everyone that the Individual Mandate was an idea that was invented by the Heritage Foundation, espoused by Newt Gingrich during his time as speaker, and implemented by Mitt Romney during his time as MA governor. It was only when a black Democrat started talking about making it a law that conservatives decided that they didn’t like it. Whether that was because Barack Obama is a black man or because he’s a Democrat, I don’t know, but you’re all either racists or partisans, and neither of those is something to be proud of.

  • Texas4Pete

    Joe, your 15 minutes is long time over.

  • David Shuff

    It wasn’t racist until you specified “white”. Idiot.

  • Pithy Eponym Here

    “I’m not a racist, I just act like one on the internet…” Hey Joe I hear The Golden Dawn may open a chapter in your hometown soon, so y’all can support a non-asian, non-Black, non-Latino, non-anything-but-white-Republican’t. You’re not a plumber but your morals are in the sewer.

  • PhuckJoe

    Joe the plumber is a tool and a tax dodger. The GOP poster boy he is. Cheats the system and blames poor people. Screw off your racist dick

  • sergiogeorgini

    I find it ironic that your posting policy bans comments containing racism, considering that this whole post – and actually this whole site – is completely racist.

  • BPPE Mason

    Are you even a plumber?

  • climate3

    “When blacks had sanity?” Have you lost your #^@%!)*& mind?

  • bud weems

    I want a job like Joe or any one of these other Teabag reactionaries. Michelle Malkin. Sarah “Brilliant Mind” Palin. Ted Cruz. What a life it must be! Spend the day in the hot tub smoking cigars and drinking beer. Get out every now and then for a camera moment. Type some silly crap off the top of my head into my blog. Check my accounts to make sure the gun ads are paying off. Go back to the hot tub, maybe brush up my spray-on and get some new sunglasses on the way. I’d skip the racist dirty talk, though. It’s just not me.

    • Ed Richardson

      Ever think about selling that vacuum between your ears.Too ignorant to deserve a serious comment !!!

  • Fair

    Is this a parody site?

  • meme

    I see…all the comments made against this writer of this article are extremely angry…. I think to myself ….why? It might b because libtards are by nature ..unhappy,ignorant, angry people, but….I happen to be Mexican and I do agree with this article .I WANT TO HAVE A WHITE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT AGAIN the kind of president who has cojones and not a wussy wanna be smart feminized HALF BLACK sissy who can’t even throw a baseball and not talk about his basket ball skills .

    • Perrofelix

      Oh yeah, Republicans are going to think that your racism is ok because you are not white… kinda like they thought Zimmerman COULDN’T be racist because he was half Peruvian. My Peruvian ex-boyfriend’s family was among the racist people I have ever encountered. They had choice things to say about the indigenous, about blacks, and sadly, really really wanted to be white. So your comment does not surprise me at all.

  • Ken Scaletta

    get a job, Joe.

  • Ken Scaletta

    Get a job, Samuel.

  • Ken Scaletta

    Can you prove that you’re white, Joe?

  • Sheldon Gramps

    Don’t hold your breath Joe. The last white Republican president took us to the worst recession in history. There will be no more Republican presidents. The electoral college votes are not there and Americans have a 70% disapproval rating of the Republican party.

  • Jeffrey McNeal

    1. I don’t want a Republican president. 2. I could care less what race the President is, because I am not a racist MF.

  • Darren Vivicidal Bonner

    Youre still racist.

  • Darren Vivicidal Bonner

    You’re sill racist, The simple act of trying to have no tolerance for racist behavior in the comments section, and than make a post asking for a white president, oh the hypocrisy is high in this blog. A person should be judged by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. so stop hating.

    • Ed Richardson

      The reason most people dislike your hero is his lack of character,NOT the color of his skin.I dislike him for what’s between his ears!

  • SpiritOnParole

    I encourage you to continue being one of the louder voices for the right. The Progressives could not ask for a better “enemy.” HA!

  • Eldergothfather

    This is obviously a joke site because “Joe” is the overextended joke of the year…

  • shawn_von_socialist

    what conservativism libertarianism is about

    • Kent2012

      no it is in juxtaposition to communism, something that you embrace along with a number of uneducated twits and pseudo intellectuals…..

      • shawn_von_socialist

        there is no intellectual right

        einstein was a proud socialist
        stephen hawkings proud socialist

        there is no global intellectual giant-of the right period

        • Kent2012

          and you follow in their footsteps supporting the parasite concept of economics…America stands for something that is alien to you, responsibility…credibility…character. Citing two geniuses and suggesting that they are proud “anything” is a stretch…..but that is how most fantasies are constructed. Your hero stood at the mike and told Americans “you did not build this”, that went farther and deeper than the superficial meaning….keep cheering your race baiting communist, the truth will shine a bright light on you and the others that think that this country is theirs for the “picking”…

          • M Jackson

            “You did not build this” was the President’s reference to the infra-structure that delivers the wares of business to the people every day and is a product of the Federal Government of The U.S.A..
            The ‘you did not build this’ that you refer to is a Lie perpetrated on the ignorant republican voters by Romney’s losing campaign/Fox ‘News’ with brazenly manipulated editing of the President’s remarks.
            That you cite this reference from the echo chamber of fallacies that is the Tea Party is really pathetic. And like the rest of your cult, you haven’t the slightest idea what the word ‘communism’ means. Ignorance Hurts.

          • Kent2012

            really and the idiots that slammed GWB when he boarded a USN ship proudly displaying the banner “mission accomplished” that referenced their conclusion of the current assignment and the return for refit…of course clowns that never served their country have not got a clue…oh and your bull$hit about the infra-structure, that is laughable…..keep on cheering the african pretender fool….

          • M Jackson

            The president’s comment is an undeniable matter of public record — you can access and view it at any time. The b.s. is all coming from your side. What GB Jrs. embarrassing stunt on the aircraft carrier has to do with anything is a secret that obviously only you have the answer to.

          • Kent2012

            you still do not have a clue….

          • M Jackson

            In regards to being able to decipher your idiotic ramblings, no, not a clue.
            Kind of like listening to other dingbats in your cult like ‘Crazy Eyes’ Bachman or failed governor Palin, or Huey Long-wannabe Cruz or birth defect poster boy Gohmert, etc..

        • Kent2012

          beam yourself up……..twitville awaits you on the planet Uranus

      • M Jackson

        … on the fringe of right-wing Teabagistan who throw around the words ‘communism’, ‘socialism’, ‘fascism’, ‘hitler’, ‘nazis’, without the slightest idea of what they’re talking about.

        • Kent2012

          those concepts are like the joke about the roof, they are over your head….

  • Tokopol

    Joe, who ghostwrites this drivvel for you? Be honest.

  • David J. Gill

    I’ll tell ya Joe, it is difficult to have courteous and useful dialog with anyone that shares your viewpoints because the ideas you guys bring to the table and the issues on your agenda are so hyper-irrational, and irrelevant that there is usually nothing a thoughtful person can say. The BLACK PRESIDENT thing I just read is a bunch of baloney…it doesn’t make sense. You don’t even realize, apparently, how your rationale and false logic parallel the kinds of things said years ago by right-wing types in this country about Jews, Catholics, blacks and gay people….AND even go back to the justifications Southerners made for slavery. I don’t think Republicans like you know anything about our real history or ever bother to think about it. We got the same kind of unbelievable stupidity from you guys about cutting the Federal budget last year. Balancing the budget was what Herbert Hoover did in 1930 and it made the Depression much worse. It’s basic economics with a little knowledge of history. But all we heard from Republicans during that budget mess was childish, arrogant demands for stupid policies.

    The First Amendment does not obligate anyone to listen to what you have to say or offer any respect. EXPECT NO RESPECT FOR THE BLACK PRESIDENT STORY or any other idea that you want to free lance like that. I’ve come to the conclusion that REPUBLICANS WANT WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN AND IF THE WHOLE COUNTRY GOES TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET THAT’S FINE. The 1st Amendment has nothing to do with tolerating stupid ideas. You see what I mean…YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS ABOUT!

    You guys love to talk about how great Reagan was! But your Reagan is some crack-pot fantasy that never existed. I VOTED FOR REAGAN TWICE. He was a political leader who was rational, he negotiated and compromised and found common ground with Democrats.

    But the Republican strategy since Obama was elected has been to ignore, condemn, deny and completely oppose any proposal from the White House or Democrats in Congress. Republicans don’t want to have a factual debate on any issue and refuse to participate constructively. Mr. Obama has been unbelievably patient and willing to compromise with Republicans on every legislative issue that has come along. The Affordable Care Act is far from perfect and everything wrong with it is bad policy concocted by Republicans who played a game of willful ignorance and pandering to the stupidest voters in America and then proudly doubled down on ignorance in the face of any criticism. I bet you actually believe the Democrats plan included death panels…right? It didn’t….how can we ” engage in reasonable discourse” when you claim things to be true that don’t exist?

    Are LIBERALS destroying America? Are you afraid of LIBERALS DESTROYING AMERICA? I AM AFRAID THAT IDIOTS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA! You are one of the idiots. THE TEA PARTY IDIOTS ARE DESTROYING THE PARTY OF LINCOLN AND NOW THEY WANT TO JUST KEEP GOING. You guys love to pretend the founding fathers or Reagan are with you…right? I KNOW A BIT OF HISTORY AND I KNOW WHAT LINCOLN WOULD THINK OF YOUR IGNORANCE.

  • Guest

    You should stick to plumbing Joe.

  • gryphoncub

    Your a retard.

  • Grant_Devereaux

    Hey moron. The people who are called racist most often make racist comments. That’s why people call them racist.

  • BRobCleveland

    OK, this is the single most stupid thing I have ever read in a long long time. And my eyeballs are hurting now.

    So you have a Black president, and he is criticized. And some of the criticism is racist in nature. And that racist criticism is called “racist.” So the “solution” to racist criticism being called racist is to . . . not have any more Black presidents? Only elect White guys . . . because the criticism of them will not be called racist?

    Oh,OK.

    But by that same logic, since some could have called “racist” the bigots (like Joe Gargiola) who made Jackie Robinson’s life miserable, then the “solution” would be to not let any Black people play baseball. You are, in essence, saying that the racists should win and, because they are racists and people want to call them what they are, that is a good reason to not let Black people compete and win.

    If this is not the dumbest most self hating and self limiting argument I have ever heard, then I don’t know what is . . . .

  • diannathomas

    I want Ted Cruz and he is Hispanic.

    • Alicia

      And Canadian.

    • Stan H

      Democrats want him to run too. Good luck.

  • Pete

    Interesting posting policy, Joe. You have no tolerance for racism in the comments section, but it’s OK to spew it in your blog?

    • Perrofelix

      He doesn’t enforce the comments section either, at least not in real time. The racism, sexism and homophobia of some of these commenters is amazing. I’m not just referring to the thinly veiled stuff, but the out in the open “faggot Barney Frank and his boyfriend” stuff, “HNIC” (we know what that stands for), “$lut” and “senior Ho” referring to Hillary if she were elected, and on and on.

  • Darksnark

    Hate to break it to you, “Joe”, but you’re a walking argument for legalized abortion, and if bullsh*t were gold, you’d be a billionaire.

    Enjoy the next three years of our first Black President’s second term. Then, you’ll get to look forward to President Hillary Clinton….

  • dwharbin

    Yeah cuz the last white guy we had was the epitome of competent.

  • Josh Williams

    One sentence “criticizing the President has nothing to do with race” and the next paragraph “When blacks had sanity” and “deranged Mexicans”. This guy lol.

  • Relativicus

    The stupid is not only strong in this one, it’s his defining characteristic. But hey, at least his website is getting clicks. No such thing as bad press, and all that.

    • Bart Smith

      Oh, and you’re so smart you can’t even figure out that Joe didn’t write the
      article. Kevin Jackson of TheBlackSphere wrote it. And in case you don’t
      know, Kevin is black.

  • Josh Williams

    I think from reading this article that Joe the Plumber should stick to draino and pipe snaking–he’s not nearly as good at subtle racist dog whistles as most of his right-wing counterparts.

    • Bart Smith

      And you’re so smart you can’t even figure out that Joe didn’t write the article. Kevin Jackson of TheBlackSphere wrote it. And in case you don’t know, Kevin is black.

      • Josh Williams

        Yes people, this isn’t that hard. The author of this article is
        racist–being black doesn’t prevent him from being racist. And just
        because it is originally written by a racist black man, it does nothing
        to take away the responsibility of Joe here–he reposted this article
        under his name. Of course we’re supposed to think that he shares the
        insane, racist, backwards views of the article writer.

  • Chad

    The attack of the Fact blind liberals begins

  • Brian

    “The Iroquois were very clear that we don’t inherit the earth from our ancestors but instead borrow it from our grandchildren. Therefore, they built an absolute injunction into their system of governance stipulating that every decision be made in the context of its impact on the seventh generation from that time…. Even more significant is the Iroquois knew women were the ones among them who were the most concerned with the seventh generation. Therefore, in four of the five Nations of the original Iroquois Confederacy, only women could vote in matters of long range importance.” – Thom Hartmann.

  • JanetArcaro

    Similarly, by your logic, Joe, the end of slavery was supposed to bring an end to racial tensions and conflict.

    Yet that has not been the case.

    So it was a mistake to end slavery–right, Joe?

  • JanetArcaro

    By the way, you have no tolerance for comments containing racism, according to your blog policy.

    What about posts?

  • Fred O’Cliff

    Okay Joe. You were funny to me for awhile, but now you just sound stupid. What the hell have you ever done that makes you important? Not a damn thing. You are just another whiny guy who is too stupid and ignorant to take advantage of the things that America has to offer. Instead of you dealing with that truth, you cry and blame any and everybody but yourself for your shortcomings and failures. Just because you share complexions with some genuinely brilliant men does not mean that any of their intelligence or greatness transferred to you. You’re a poser patriot, Joe, milking your 15 minutes of “fame” for everything that it is worth.

  • John Richter

    JOE THE PLUMBER/ SARAH PAL;IN 2016

    • Perrofelix

      You know she’d just quit after the first year and a half.

  • John Richter

    Unfortunately, Joe, dems are ignorant. They fail to see that the black as president experiment failed badly and now want to try a female president.

    • Stan H

      Black President “experiment”? Obama’s brought us out of the recession, the banking and housing collapses, saved the auto industry, and got us (mostly) out of Dubya’s wars, despite mindless GOP obstructionism to an extent never seen before. Dems (and most of the country) want a female president because we realize that 1) Democratic policies are far better for the Country, and 2) The Teapublicans have driven the GOP so far right, that practically no one with any common sense will vote for them in the future.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1413275231 Sarah Bouss

      Lol you’re so out of touch you are alienating your own people. Young college republicans don’t like you people anymore. You’re practically mocking veterans at this point using them as a divorcee would use custody of children in a nasty divorce. The tech industry doesn’t like you because you’re still living in the big business of the early 90s mentality. If i went to you with just issues that interested me regarding business you would not meet them. wake up. You’re highly disconnected from everyone but you’re far right evangelical base. There’a much higher number of conservative libertarians now. My dad even, a lifelong republican in the military is sick of your bullshit and is not independent. Grow up!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1413275231 Sarah Bouss

        now* independent

    • Perrofelix

      Priceless again. Racist and sexist. I’m sure you were against the first and only Catholic president too and were happy to see that experiment terminated. Did it not bother you that Romney could have been the “Mormon as president?”

  • Michael Mlyniec

    This is sad. You are basically telling me that no one else other than a White person can be patriotic and serve their country legitimately. I’m not mexican, I’m American with mexican and native descent, and you’re telling me that I’m ineligible to be president because of possibility of race baiting with the media or because of what people may think of you if you were to criticize me? Sounds pathetic to me. You sir, are race baiting also, just as bad as the ones in office and in the media. OUR PROBLEM IS NOT WITH A BLACK PRESIDENT (Or any other “color”), ITS WITH CORRUPTION , GREED, AND THE LACK OF MORALS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA. What we need is a Strong Patriotic Conservative president with strong morals, and one who obeys laws.

  • jayeS

    I like Joe the Plumber, at least he has a job helping people who truly needs it. Unlike the people we pay to take our freedoms away in Washington, DC. It matters not if we got rid of all of them and started over, we are too far gone and are now a socialistic country. The low lifes will still get their candy while the working people pay for it. Until the working people take care of it permanently, it will be business as usual. Keep working, someone on welfare is depending on you.

  • IHateLibs

    This just Proves, You can take the Monkey out of the Jungle, but you Cant take the Jungle out of the Monkey. Look at what the Monkeys have become in every Big Inner City.

    • Perrofelix

      No, no racism here. I assume your chimpout.com account is in good standing. Too bad everyone takes your valid policy complaints as racist comments. Must hurt to be so misunderstood.

  • IHateLibs

    Dayum those Fact thingys, That’s gonna drive them LIB/DEM SHEEPLE NUTS. Just wait and read the comments

  • redhand32

    Hey Joe the Plumber. Your bag of pipe wrenches have a higher IQ than you. Go Figure !
    Joe, I think the cheese slid off your cracker, buddy !

  • Jax Wolff

    Thanks joe, for reminding us that racism is still alive and well in America

    • Kent2012

      yes and the most active racists are kenyan boy, al sharpless, jessy jacksonoff, and lewis”I am a rag head commie” farakhany……

      • ZigZ

        #1 is Eric Holder

      • Perrofelix

        This comment is just priceless.

  • olraya

    This is satire right?

    • Kent2012

      yes, but the left wing nut trolls have not figured it out….

  • JoethePlummerisaBigot

    “I’m not racist or anything, but having a black President is bad for the country.”

    Pure idiocy.

    • Joe Dokes

      Well it sure hasn’t worked out well so far.

      • jadugara

        When, exactly, did you become a D0UCHE BAG?

        • Joe Dokes

          I am not a white supremacist of any stripe. I loathe and detest anyone who judges by skin color rather than content of character. I await with great eagerness the demise of all racial supremacy, whoever holds to it.

          The point of my comment was that everything Obama was sold as – namely, the Great Racial Uniter – turns out to have been a carefully crafted lie. In fact, he has deliberately taken American BACKWARDS in terms of race relations. Many of us suspected it would turn out thus, and so it has.

          If Thomas Sowell ran for President, he’d have my vote.

          • jadugara

            You’re confusing me for the dude you were energetically giving a reach-around to while waiting to receive your douche-mantle…

      • Stan H

        Compared to Dubya’s administration, it’s almost Nirvanha.

  • David Abb

    No when people were critical of GWB they were not called racist they were called anti American, and told to leave the country and had death threats brought about.

  • The Arcadian

    You’re the man now dog! Go Joe!

    But I’ll miss conversations like this!
    Me: “I cant believe Eric Holder hasn’t been fired for that stunt where he sent weapons to Mexican drug gangs and covered it up afterward – he basically got away with murder. Where’s the accountability?”

    White liberals who used to oppose guns, foreign interventions, etc: “Oh you just don’t like him because he’s black.”

  • Joe Dokes

    If Obama was bent on weakening the U.S. as much as possible before he left office without calling too much attention to himself, thus setting off too many alarms, would he be doing anything differently from what he’s already done?

    • Perrofelix

      You have confused the President with the entire Tea Party. The default alone will jack up the interest rates and magnify the debt.

  • Ernest Spoon

    Right now, I want a white Republican president about as much as I want a dose of clap.

    • Kent2012

      looks like you have already had four or five doses and still have not gotten some free health care from kenyan boy and the democommies….

      • jadugara

        If you actually think this is about getting “free health care” then your low level of intelligence will NEVER allow for a decent conversation… Maybe you can answer a question, though… When, exactly, did you become a D0UCHE BAG?

        • Kent2012

          well rocket scientist it must have happened right after you became an enema bag nozzle…….

          • jadugara

            I think you’re confusing me for someone who enjoys the kinds of things that actually make your pathetic life worth living… I’d go into greater detail, but trolls like you barely read above a third-grade level…

          • Kent2012

            missing home are we? slip on away back to the frenzied fantasy world that works for you…you still have not figured out what this legislation is all about, but time will heal all of you misconceptions…..

          • jadugara

            Sounds like cheap, paranoid conspiracy-theory douchery to me… Get a grip on reality, then we’ll talk… Better yet,…get your head out of the Republican Echo Chamber,…then you’ll actually be capable of LISTENING….

          • Kent2012

            okay enema bag nozzle…..squirt some for your massa, kenyan boy…

          • Perrofelix

            If only we could have more valid policy criticism like “massa” and “kenyan boy,” then no one would be complaining that much the criticism of the President is racist in nature.

          • jadugara

            Here,…let’s look at some of your rhetoric… Let’s scrutinize this drivel closely…

            You said to me that I “still have not figured out what this legislation is all about”….as if it’s some scary secret agenda that, if only I truly understood it, would I then suddenly wake up and totally agree with your lunacy…

            This kind of garbage you’re spewing is nothing short of comical when you recall that Obamacare was a conservative answer to the doomed “Hillarycare” plan (which would have mandated that most employers provide decent coverage for their workers). The Republican Party’s last presidential nominee called the very similar scheme he’d enacted as governor of Massachusetts, “the ultimate conservatism,” adding: “that’s why the Heritage Foundation worked with us… [they] recognized that the principles of free enterprise and personal responsibility were at work.” Of the provision that conservatives now decry as an egregious assault on Americans’ freedoms, Mitt Romney explained, “we got the idea of an individual mandate… from [Newt Gingrich], and [Newt] got it from the Heritage Foundation.”

            When you get into the details, the health care law is complex, with a whole bunch of moving parts (it’s certainly a lot more complex than “Medicare for all” would have been). But the broad strokes are relatively simple: there are a number of (highly popular) new regulations on insurers; there are exchanges where private companies offer a variety of insurance plans; it’s got subsidies that make those plans more affordable for the middle class; there’s an expansion of Medicaid for the poor, and a mandate – Romney referred to it as his “personal responsibility program” – which makes those popular regulations work.

            Yeah,…wow,…now that I finally realize “what this legislation is all about”,…it’s so TOTALLY scary that I’m shaking in my boots, just like you…NOT…

            Grow up, dude… Put your “big boy” pants on, move out of your mother’s basement, and join an adult discussion for once in your pathetic life…

      • Katherine Walton

        Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

        • Kent2012

          buzz off commie wind bag

          • Katherine Walton

            Yummy! So predictable!

      • Ernest Spoon

        “…democommies?” Ahahahahahaw!!! Wish they were…By the way, what’s with you reactionaries and the “Shift” key? Next thing you’re going to tell me you’re a 20 veteran of the Marine Corps, Marine Reserves, get your healthcare at the VA, work for the US Fish and Game Service and your wife for the Internal Revenue Service but you hate Big Gub’munt!

  • ei-g1

    No. Instead, I admit we never want a dumbshit redneck poser running for office again. “Reagan good for blacks…” LOL Ask any Black man or woman over thew age of 40 what they think about that.

  • ZigZ

    If we had an honest press they would not perceive Obama as Black. He is a mulatto.

    • Perrofelix

      ohhh… that makes all the difference then. Can you tell me what the “one drop rule” means in American history?

  • Troy Laack

    I’m surprised that you don’t have a swastika tattooed on your head.

  • TRush

    Newsflash folks…this article is from Kevin Jackson on his website, not Joe the Plumber. Second, Kevin Jackson is African American. Last, if none of you can think deep enough to get the thrust of what Kevin is saying and you are just scraping the mental surface, then you need to go back to school to learn the Enlish language and brush up on your craft writing skills….maybe some day you will learn to grasp the article.

  • kfsone

    It’s not about whether you criticize him, his policies, lifestyle etc, it’s about whether or not you label him by the color of his skin.

    When you write an article that categorizes him as a “black president” explicitly for the purposes of contrast vs a white president, that is definitively racist. Doesn’t get any simpler than that.

    You’re trying to say you feel the race card gets pulled every time you level genuine criticism at Obama. But that’s not what you said. You said “I want a WHITE guy not a BLACK guy”.

    The best way to avoid having the race card pulled on you like this, Joe, is to recognize that we all have some amount/shape of bigotry inside us. We all have a leaning towards some form of it. What counts is whether you’re honest enough to look inside and see it and keep it from shaping you.

    That doesn’t mean getting all PC, IMO that’s as bigoted as not saying the things in the first place. It means being aware enough of your prejudices to try and avoid them shaping your words and actions.

    You utterly failed at that in this article.

    • Bart Smith

      Are you too illiterate to follow the link and realize this article was not written by Joe, but by a black man using sarcasm and intentionally inflammatory statements to make a point?

  • Joe Dokes

    Anyone notice this is where the article came from? It’s not Joe’s.

    http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/#BOTSZxPlAVqYyB2X.99

    Notice who wrote it.

    • Bart Smith

      All the idiots are too busy screaming “Racist!!” to realize the post was written by a black man using sarcasm to make a point.

  • Carabella1

    Yes, it does make you a racist. Teathuglicans aren’t true Americans and they are not patriots. They are racist scum.

  • http://cantercast.net/ Lou G

    How are you relevant exactly?

  • John Kelly

    We had a white Republican president for eight years not so long ago. In those eight years we had the first ever major terrorist attack on US soil, two wars (one of which was based on false information), an abysmally inept response to a natural disaster, and the worst economic recession in decades.
    More of that? Thanks, but no thanks.

  • Kathy Moran

    Sorry Joe, you are yet again wrong… Do us all a favor and just stick to plumbing…

  • Anthony04

    Fact is Joe..you’re not even a licensed plumber. I guess you’re too dumb to pass the exam

  • jhannon

    This was so stupid it made my eyes hurt.

  • coyote521

    go plumb something, joe.

  • Andy Writer

    Um, the results of the 2012 presidential election would seem to contradict your claim.

  • Kemp Honeycutt

    You, sir, are the very definition of a racist. During the 2008 campaign you came across as little more than a fool, but now we see there’s so much more to you than that. It amazes me that anybody, even the most base tea partier, cares one whit what you think.

  • Warden

    Actually dipshit, it makes you a racist by the very definition. You disgrace your race and your nation with your ignorance. You’ve been a joke since you came on the scene.

  • Sheldon Gramps

    Sorry Joe, but guess what? Your last white Republican president was a disaster! Under Dubya we had illegal wars, tax cuts for the rich, no child left behind, Hurricane Katrina, waterboarding ,9-11, numerous
    embassy attacks which make Benghazi look like child’s play and the great recession of 2008. Thanks Joe but no thanks, no more Republican presidents of any race.

  • CentralScruntinizer

    Gosh Joe, your clear and totally non-racist and absolutely non-moronic writings totally made me realize that the GOP reaction to Obama is totally non-racist. When 65% of registered republicans believe he was born in Kenya, thats the height of policy debate; When 52% of registered republicans believe his is Muslim, thats just a disagreement over foreign policy. When sitting members of congress yell and heckle during the state of the Union speech, that’s respectful discourse.

    Thanks for the clarification, Joe! You’re as swell as ever.

  • Willie F Dicks, Jr

    If you want to really know what racist really are you should remember that on the day that President Obama became President, the republicans were meeting on that same day to set their goals for when he took the chair and that was to oppose EVERYTHING that he would present while in office and make him a one term President. They were not able to make him a one term President but are still working hard to destroy anything that he presents, even if it were something they supported before he started supporting the same program. That is racist behavior any way you look at it.

  • Bart Smith

    I love all the liberal idiots blasting Joe for this article and calling him a racist for writing it. They all so illiterate they can’t even figure out it was a sarcastic article posted on TheBlackSphere.net and written by a black man.

    • Perrofelix

      Glad you’ve posted that on here about 15 times — without understanding that by incorrectly posting the article Joe was endorsing it, making him a just target for the criticism. I’ll add that you need to check the definition of sarcasm, because this is not intended sarcasm.

  • Ray Shea

    Your just the shallow jerk the TeaBaggers love! Keep it up we all love the 1930′s mid-european approach.

  • http://b-rar.tumblr.com/ brendan

    You are human garbage.

  • godblessusa

    If the Republican party wants to remain a factor nationally, it must lose its embrace of the 1800s.

    Joe, your post sums that up nicely.

  • c-bass

    Weird – I don’t recall anyone ever saying “hang him from a tree” or “send him back to Western Europe” when they complained about white Presidents. That’s a new thing, Joe the Lying Racist.

  • Aaron Henry

    “Posting Policy….We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism,….etc.”

    LOL, I think they should start with the article itself before they make demands on the commenters.

  • bahndon

    Obama, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, and Eric Holder would be the hunters, hunting for run away slaves if this was america 1840′s

    • Formicophiliac

      ?

      You have no idea what you’re talking about.

      • bahndon

        I know exactly what I am talking about, The boys I mentioned have been keeping the black population on the government plantation since Martin Luther King was killed. I firmly believe Al and Jessie had something to do with haveing MLK killed. MLK wanted peaceful protests, Al, and Jessie wanted violence and look at what occurred after MLK was killed, Al and Jessie got what they wanted.

        • Rovell Hoyman

          Al Sharpton was 13 years old in April 1968 when Dr. King was killed. If he could aid a high profile assassination plot at that age, he’d probably be knocking over buildings with his mind and in control of all North America by now. Jesse Jackson? I don’t believe it personally, but it is at least theoretically possible.

          • bahndon

            In 1969, Sharpton was appointed by Jesse Jackson as youth director of Operation Breadbasket, a group that focused on the promotion of new and better jobs for African-Americans.[20]

          • Perrofelix

            Oh, kind of like how the American people had a hand in assassinating JFK then, by electing him president?

          • Rovell Hoyman

            So you’re saying he participated in the plot to murder King the year before he became involved with Operation Breadbasket? Long shot, if you ask me. Monumentally so. However, you are free to lay siege to windmills if you like. There are less noble pursuits.

  • Formicophiliac

    Take your meds, Joe.

  • bahndon

    I am not racist I do not like Joe Biden either !!!

  • exboyracer

    Spoken like a true racist -

  • johnsawyer

    So Joe’s solution to people criticizing a black president simply because he’s black, is to not have a black president? Wow.

    • Bart Smith

      It’s not Joe’s article, idiot. It was written by Kevin Jackson, who happens to be black, and originally posted on TheBlackSphere. Joe just re-posted it here so we could all laugh at the illiterate, liberal fools jumping to conclusions and pulling out the worn out race card. He knew a black man being sarcastic to make a point would fly right over your heads.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1413275231 Sarah Bouss

        No BART, Its become clear YOU don’t get the sarcasm behind Kevin Jackson’s post.

  • Curt

    Why does anyone even respond to this idiot. Giving him attention gives him a sense of worth and relevance in an otherwise worthless and irrelevant life.

  • JamesPiekko1

    The GOP needs more heroes like Joe the Plumber to stand up and tell us what they think and not feel the need to hide behind subtle euphanism that we don’t always understand. Use your freedom of speech to show who you really are, don’t hide, don’t run. Make a public display of yourself like one of those paintings with Jesus giving us the Constitution!

  • Rate Dermatologist

    It changed a lot… It exposed the hell out of bigots like you

  • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

    Damn, Joe The Plumber doesn’t even have any love for a possible Black Republican president. I suppose somewhere right now Herman Cain is bleaching his skin so as to be acceptable.

  • Eric Mead

    lol, the posting policy says no racist comments, yet they can have a hugely racist article under the guise of not being racist.

  • http://rippdemup.com/ RiPPa

    Yeah because we don’t need another Black president like George W. Bush who decimated the economy while adding the most to the deficit since Reagan. Nice try, Joe, but this post is too ignorant to even be deemed racist.

  • Melody Clark

    You are racist, Joe. Wanting a white President suggests that white people are superior. I’m sure you want a white male Republican President. Then again, your other ignorant remarks include your wish to “increase Social Security” while “cutting back on government giving people money.” You’re a useful idiot, Joe. They’ll screw you over as soon as they’ve used you.

    • Bart Smith

      Joe didn’t write it. Kevin Jackson, who happens to be black, wrote it.

  • Bart Smith

    I love it. Joe re-posts an article from TheBlackSphere, written by a black man who uses sarcasm to point out the double standards of racism claims and the over use of the race card. All the liberal idiots fall for it and post comments proving the very point of Kevin Jackson’s, not Joe’s, article.

    • XsojX

      Correction: he copied and pasted it as if it were his own words. No proper references exist in this article. Rules don’t apply to republicans, however. We get that.

  • veritas

    “Consider that nobody is ever accused of being racist for disagreeing with white presidents.” That’s because there’s no such thing as institutional racism against white people.

    • Kent2012

      they do not get any grief for suggesting that the “white pres” suffer some fatal accident either, that must be do to the fact that in libtard ville only honkies can be racists…….

      • Perrofelix

        Suggesting that Obama should suffer some fatal accident would not be racist in itself. If you suggest that it should involve a noose and a tree limb, that would be. And I can see that in your ‘ville, honkies are NEVER racists.

  • zdroberts

    Nope, I want an ‘illegal’ hispanic for president. Just because it might give scum-fucks like you a heart attack.

    • Kent2012

      be sure to send some money to the ho for her campaign for dictator, we need more socialism/communism, to hell with common sense….

      • Justin O’Reilly

        Kent I’m beginning to think you spent time in prison…where you “learn” that “if it isn’t white it isn’t right.” I’m also beginning to think that you equate “not white” with “communist.”

  • PhilliesWS2008

    Yeah, Joe, and freaking Snowden is an American Hero and the government somehow caused the storms in Oklahoma like fat idiot Alex Jones tried claiming…. I’m surprised this idiot is even capable of writing anything because I’m sure he can’t read just like the rest of the teatards…..
    Using this idiot for politics is like using fat draft dodger Rush as a news source….

    • Kent2012

      spit those turd$ out and say what you really are thinking…..

  • Phil B.

    Don’t worry little fella. The big scawy black man will be out of office in a few years.

  • sedgwick

    Your last name is WURZELBACHER. How on earth can you be spouting this white supremacist crap?!

    • Bart Smith

      He didn’t spout it. Kevin Jackson a writer for The Black Sphere did. And in case who he writes for didn’t give it away, Kevin Jackson is a black man.

      • XsojX

        He failed to properly indicate he was simply cutting and pasting by inserting quotes (“) and properly using in article citations. Just digging for, copying and pasting such an idiotic article makes him truly the bigger jerk here. He posted it as if it were his words, and deserves the fall out.

  • userw014

    “In the pre-polack plumber days …:”

    Geeze Joe. You’ve really cross-threaded this one. You can’t fix this. You’ll have to rip it all out and start over.

  • Mike

    I’m black with a Ph.D. in civil engineering. I’m currently a professor, and before I started teaching I had 27 years of professional experience.

    I’ve run into guys like Joe the Dumber before. I show up at a job…

    YOU’RE the engineer!?

    Yes.

    Seriously, you’re the ENGINEER!?

    Yes.

    No. Really? You’re the ENGINEER!?

    • Bart Smith

      So eager to jump on Joe’s case for being a racist you didn’t bother to click the link to read more on TheBlackSphere did you? If you had, you would have realized this article was written by a black man who was using sarcasm and intentionally inflammatory statements to make a point. If you have issues with what was said you need to take them up with Kevin Jackson, not Joe.

      • Emmy Emmenstien

        Please break down how sarcasm and inflammatory staements were used and then please the point he is making.
        I am not a smart man I need someone to break it down for me.

      • XsojX

        He being an engineer (a profession requiring proper education) would have written enough essays, reports, etc. in school to realize what proper citations are. Joe failed in copying and pasting this article and not properly citing it. No, a link placed at the end of the article is not a proper citation. When you are copying someone’s word in their entirety, they must be introduced and include an in article citation. See how that works?

      • Perrofelix

        Oh, Joe is not endorsing this at all then, it just ended up by accident on his website. Joe would never make an argument like this. Someone must have hacked him.

  • Fuzzbee

    idiotic.

  • Bart Smith

    Way to go, Joe!! You posted this knowing the brainless liberals would be too illiterate to realize it’s sarcasm meant to make a point and get their panties in a wad. Further, you knew they wouldn’t bother to click the “read more” link and read the original on TheBlackSphere. It’s funny how they scream “Racist!!” and then fall silent when it’s pointed out that it was written by a black man

    • nycguy

      And his repeating it means he’s cosigning. I love how every time Conservatives do or say something stupid, it’s sarcasm.

      • Bart Smith

        If you’re too dense to understand that Mr. Jackson was using juxtaposition of the racism cries by liberals with the obviously satirical call for a white President to make a point, I feel sorry for you. It must be hard going through life so clueless.

        • Emmy Emmenstien

          Please explain the juxtaposition and the satirical call, I don’t see it. I see a back writer explaining that black people were more properous under Republicans and only gave Regan years as an example but fails to explain how any policies enacted under Regain goes to directly affect them.
          The premise about critisizing the president is simple the American thing to do. This opening staement alone make me question his take on reality as he was obviously around for the Bush years. “You are with us or against us” Remember that one. Remember the Dixie Chicks?
          This alone takes any credibility away from anything he says.

          This guy worte this article for you to feel better about yourself for being racist.

        • Emmy Emmenstien

          Also, no, it is not racist to criticize Obama. But you do have
          to wonder about the worldview of those people who didn’t seem to care
          about debts, deficits, being tread on, or presidents’ middle names and
          birth certificates until Obama got elected. Hell of a
          coincidence.

        • nycguy

          Ah “racism cries”. The evil liberals are crying racism with none to be found because Conservatives are sweet and accepting people of everyone regardless of race, religion, income, etc.

    • Perrofelix

      This article is obviously NOT sarcasm though I know you wish it were. You also get the same reply I made above. And I won’t fall silent just because it was written by a black man, any more than I’ll stop criticizing Clarence Thomas for just about every ruling he ever makes, or the president for using drone strikes too much.

      “Not identifying Jackson as black matters as well” only for those who fail to understand how Uncle Tom-ism works. As a gay man, I’m used to seeing other gays quoted on outrageous things. Either hedonists supporting reckless hedonism, or Uncle Tom closet cases saying we all should be put in jail. The fact that a gay man said it (or black man here) is supposed to give some weighty authority to the article when all it means is that we found someone “special” to say what we wanted to hear said from said racial/ethnic/cultural group.

  • LostBoyPA

    I don’t want a Republican anything, no matter what color they are. Go away, Joe.

  • PBCDem

    A white republican president is what caused us to be in the financial mess we’re trying to recover from now!

  • F4C

    fascist meat puppet. your 15 minutes are indeed over.

  • The Franklin

    You are an idiot. If you don’t understand why black people do not vote Republican, all you have to do is read your own statements. And I say as a black person, John Boehner is a disgrace to people of color. LOL

    • JessicaSideways

      We need to send Boehner back to Willy Wonka’s factory and let Boehner’s skin colour return to it’s natural green.

      • ThomasER916

        You’re just saying that because you’re a baby-killer who supports murdering infants.

        • JessicaSideways

          Wow, WTF are you smoking?

          • ThomasER916

            I’m not on drugs. Liberals belong to the drug Cult. Liberals are the drug pushers. Those are your people. Those are your values. That’s what you believe.

            Or are you just too stupid to know your own agenda?

          • JessicaSideways

            I’m a teetotaler. How does that play with your stupid assertion?

            I am a liberal because I care about having a good government and want politicians that are mentally stable. Things the Republicans are opposed to.

          • ThomasER916

            (There it is! You said it again!)

            You’re a Liberal because you’re stupid and can’t think for yourself. You’re an idiot who’s too dumb to know the difference between an agenda and an individual behavior, as indicated in your post. You’re a moron who can’t define “good government” let alone describe it.

            Hope!
            Change!
            Good Government!

            ^^Libtard Slogans for people who can’t think.

            Hope for what?
            Change to what?
            Good how?

          • JessicaSideways

            It figures a person with a heart and a mind as black as yours would see a problem with hope, change and good government.

            Good government helps to protect it’s people and it’s people’s liberties. It tries to help the poor, build infrastructure and basically do the things we can’t do alone.

            Yet, you claim that I can’t describe it. I just did. Why do you thing good government is somehow a bad thing? Why do you thing that government should be a stasi like state that the GOP wants?

          • ThomasER916

            Oh so now you can magically see in to the hearts and minds of humanity! You must be a Libtard.

            “Good government helps to protect it’s people and it’s people’s liberties.”
            ^^You mean through military force? More police? So “good government” is the exact opposite of Mayor Bloomberg and Moochelle, both of whom are food fascists.

            “It tries to help the poor, build infrastructure and basically do the things we can’t do alone.”
            ^^ For starters, government cannot “help” the poor. There isn’t a single metric to show that any government has ever “helped” anyone become less poor. If government “helped” the poor than North Korea would have less poor than South Korea. Detroit would has less poor than the Michigan suburbs.

            When you try to describe something, you only manage to illustrate your own stupidity. We get to see that here:

            “Why do you thing that government should be a stasi like state that the GOP wants?”
            East Germany was a Leftist/Socialist creation. Only Liberals and Leftists supported it and still support Socialism, Marxism and Communism. Yes, you really are THAT stupid.

          • JessicaSideways

            I am a teetotaler. How does that play with your stupid assertion that liberals are drug pushers?

          • ThomasER916

            You can say that again!

          • JessicaSideways

            But, are you saying that you made that stupid statement SOBER? That, I think, is more telling of your intellect because if you were stoned or high or whatever, at least that would justify why you would say such a stupid thing. So, now I have to guess… behavioural disorder?

          • ThomasER916

            Cognitive Dissonance… again.

            You obviously can’t follow your own posts you wrote to justify your ad hominem. Like I said before, this isn’t for you. This is so other people can see what Cognitive Dissonance looks like.

          • JessicaSideways

            How is this cognitive dissonance? You said I was a baby killer, which I am not. That is a clear ad hominem attack. It is libellous and disgusting.

          • ThomasER916

            So you’re too stupid to understand Obama’s stance against the “Born-Alive Infants Protection Act” or Democrat support for Kermit Gosnell? You’re a Liberal. You said it yourself. You said that Liberals care about “good government”. This is the “good government” of Liberals, just like in Romania where an Abortion Culture was created by your “good government.”

            BTW, since you’re too stupid to follow what I’m doing it’s called Polymath. You should look that up too!

          • JessicaSideways

            First of all, Democrats roundly denounced Gosnell because of his unsafe medical practice. There is nothing wrong with abortion but Gosnell’s practice was an aberration of standards of care.

            And no, what you are not doing is called polymath, it is called trolling.

          • ThomasER916

            “Democrats roundly denounced Gosnell because of his unsafe medical practice.”

            There was a media black out. Where is Obama’s two cents? Where is this “roundly” you’re blathering about?

            You’re an idiot. You’re so stupid from indoctrination you need to keep lying over and over again. You’re so stupid you think the Communist Stazi have something in common with people that also want less government. Yes, you’re that stupid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1413275231 Sarah Bouss

    I’d be just as happy if the president were a female or Asian (Bobby Jindal? Mrs Gov of South Carolina?). I remember when Hillary was the frontrunner and suddenly all the rhetoric on Fox news had some very gender based criticisms. And if you want to blame someone you should blame yourselves for electing dimwits to represent you. I am bipartisan and not loyal to any one party. Find someone normal; someone who can speak in complete sentences, who isn’t deeply disconnected to voters- (that is, the broader American public and not just your party base) who isn’t hearing voices (from god?). My own republican friends hate that the party is hijacked and turned into a religious institution more than a business one. They want the old republicanism back. Pro Business and No Religion or other sanctimonious ‘values.’ By the way, business structures are changing very rapidly but so many of your “leaders” are too old school to recognize real modern business needs. You seriously are dated and disconnected. ‘Go get em tiger.’

    • JessicaSideways

      Can I ask WHY you are bipartisan? I mean, isn’t it obvious that the Republicans don’t care about democracy and the rule of law, that they will perform any sort of shifty underground bullshit to get what they want, regardless of who it hurts?

      • ThomasER916

        OMG you’re stupid!

        You’re so indoctrinated you’re actually stupid. Congratulations on being a Useful Idiot!

        • JessicaSideways

          Yes, go ahead, use ad hominem attacks. You prove that you have no response to the very serious claims against the Republican party. Good job.

          • ThomasER916

            LOL! You really are stupid. All of a sudden you want to clutch your pearls and feint in outrage over “ad hominem”? What a fking moron!

            Did you understand that?

            You’re so dumb you can’t read your own posts. Look down at your posted pic. Oh yeah! That’s right! You’re an idiot! But you’re a Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism.

          • JessicaSideways

            I’m not outraged, ad hominem attacks are par for the course when dealing with conservatives. Their points are invalid so they resort to personal attacks. Nothing new about this.

          • ThomasER916

            OK. So you’re just stupid then. I got it. Attack anyone and everyone labeled as the enemy by your Wise Overlords, while simultaneously holding any response as “invalid.”

            This is called “Cognitive Dissonance.” You’re not smart enough to understand what that means. This post is not for you.

  • jackeyb

    America actually needs more white male plumbers!!! You’ll have more respect than a politician and you’ll stop making yourself look like a racist tool.

  • Guest

    is this real? if you read past the title you’re a dunderhead and there’s no hope for you. the fact that there’s even ensuing discussion is more disturbing still.

  • paintinc56

    MOTH ERFU CKER, DID ANY OF YOU FU CKING MORONS ACTUALLY READ THE FU CKING ARTICLE??

    At least if we had a white president, black people might have a shot of regaining a modicum of respect.

    © 2013 Kevin Jackson – The Black Sphere, LLC – All Rights Reserved

    Read more at http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/#he6jUWIJTxxBybGB.99

    KEVIN JACKSON IS A BLACK MAN, GOT IT?? HE WROTE THE FU CKING ARTICLE, GOT IT??!!!

    THE DEMOCRAT PARTY STARTED THE K K K & FOUGHT AGAINST THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.
    LINCOLN, A REPUBLICAN, FOUGHT SLAVERY & FREED the SLAVES. OOPS, I FORGOT, YOU LEFTISTS DESPISE FACTS.

  • paintinc56

    TROLLING RACIST, BRAIN DEAD LEFTISTS, A BLACK MAN, KEVIN JACKSON, WROTE THIS ARTICLE, NOT JOE!!

    At least if we had a white president, black people might have a shot of regaining a modicum of respect.

    © 2013 Kevin Jackson – The Black Sphere, LLC – All Rights Reserved

    Read more at http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/#he6jUWIJTxxBybGB.99

    KEVIN JACKSON IS A BLACK MAN, GOT IT?? HE WROTE THE FU CKING ARTICLE, GOT IT??!!!
    I DIDN’T NOTICE ALL YOU BRAINLESS A$$HOLES getting upset when YOUR RACIST BUDDIES CALLED CLARENCE THOMAS, ALLEN WEST, HERMAN CAIN & EVERY OTHER BLACK CONSERVATIVE NI GG ERS, HOUSE NI GGERS, UNCLE TOMS & SLAVES NOR WHEN THOSE SAME WHITE & BLACK RACISTS THREATENED THE ABOVE MENTIONED WITH HANGING & WHIPPING.
    YOU RACIST, SEXIST, LEFTIST HYPOCRITES MAKE ME SICK!!!!

    • XsojX

      I am sure your mom is proud that the tongue that spews this filth is the same one you french kiss her with.

      • ThomasER916

        Says the Libtard with a Sock Account.

        Nice phony Account Libby!

    • Perrofelix

      You get the same reply I made above:

      “Not identifying Jackson as black matters as well” only for those who fail to understand how Uncle Tom-ism works. As a gay man, I’m used to seeing other gays quoted on outrageous things. Either hedonists supporting reckless hedonism, or Uncle Tom closet cases saying we all should be put in jail. The fact that a gay man said it (or black man here) is supposed to give some weighty authority to the article when all it means is that we found someone “special” to say what we wanted to hear said from said racial/ethnic/cultural group.

      • ThomasER916

        How’s your rectal prolapse?

        • Perrofelix

          That’s only the third or fourth time you’ve asked someone that, absent any other commentary on this thread. You are a sparkling genius. I see, this is actually in response to me being gay. Ho Ho Ho, never heard that one before. An original from the 3rd grade TEA Partier.

          • ThomasER916

            Don’t laugh so hard! Your intestines are falling.

  • Rebecca

    I’m sorry, this has to be a joke…right?

  • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

    A prominent notification at the top of the page, perhaps prefixing the title, “Guest Commentary: …” letting readers know immediately that they’re not reading something written by a white guy might have allayed some of the offense here. Even that of those who are deliberately seeking to be offended.

    The article itself is a provocative way to argue that the punitive rhetoric of empty accusation of racism used as a first, second and last resort by President Obama’s defenders harms representative democracy and blinds black constituents to the ways their own interests have been neglected by his administration.

    The text as it was written, however, would not carry the same meaning if it were written by a white person. That the manner in which it was posted gives that impression was an avoidable mistake and it’s Joe’s own fault that it came off that way.

  • vonlmo

    Dr Ben Carson ain’t Republican enuf for you?

  • Semanitc Warrior

    At all the (caps lock plagued) posts that a black man originally authored this article, it only furthers the criticism that this guy needs to stay away from political commentary (and plumbing), as there is zero credit given on this page. No introduction, just a link at the end “read the rest”.

    • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

      I up-voted you because, you’re right. It nonetheless remains that readers and reviewers at other sites also have responsibilities that they neglected. C&L, RawStory, LiberalLand and others were deliberately shady with their commentary. If they have a problem with what Kevin Jackson wrote, they should direct their criticism at Kevin Jackson. That they appear to have fished around for the most notable white GOP figure to have reposted it kinda makes them look like sleazy exploitationists.

      They each avoided mentioning that Werlzbacher didn’t write the thing as much as they could, enclosing it in parentheses and not even mentioning Jackson by name in one case. Not identifying Jackson as black matters as well. If this site had misrepresented something posted at C&L so deliberately and egregiously, the left would take it as another opportunity to compare conservative media to Hutu genocide radio (which, oddly enough, would not be read as a “dog whistle”).

      • XsojX

        You forget that toilet boy himself forgets to mention he copied and pasted another man’s work. A link is not a citation. This would get a fail in middle school English and as blogging articles go, he deserves the trouble he caused by not thinking when he dug up the article and passed it on as if he wrote it and used a link to read more as an afterthought and not a citation. There should have been an introduction, quotation marks or highlighted feature (like the other article he lifted) and proper citation.

        • ThomasER916

          You failed to mention you just created this Sock Account just to spam manufactured Libtard outrage like Saul Alinsky taught.

      • Perrofelix

        “Not identifying Jackson as black matters as well” only for those who fail to understand how Uncle Tom-ism works. As a gay man, I’m used to seeing other gays quoted on outrageous things. Either hedonists supporting reckless hedonism, or Uncle Tom closet cases saying we all should be put in jail. The fact that a gay man said it (or black man here) is supposed to give some weighty authority to the article when all it means is that we found someone “special” to say what we wanted to hear said from said racial/ethnic/cultural group.

  • http://www.chickenunderwear.com Chicken Underwear

    I don’t think you know what a racist is.

  • XsojX

    If you haven’t read it, Joe is pointing out how stupid the news folks are for reporting that he wrote this. He failed to properly indicate he was simply cutting and pasting by inserting quotes (“) and properly using in article citations. Just digging for, copying and pasting such an idiotic article makes him truly the bigger jerk here. He posted it as if it were his words, and deserves the fall out.

    • ThomasER916

      OMG you’re such a fcking idiot!

  • Fack Failbook

    NOT EVEN WRITTEN BY JOE

    WRITTEN BY © 2013 Kevin Jackson – The Black Sphere, LLC

    Read more at http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/

    If you actually RTFA You would see this is just a verbatim repost of a BLACK AUTHOR, Which he cites the original source at the bottom.

    But go ahead and keeping making an ass of yourself showing that you dont know how to read.

    • XsojX

      That is not a citation. He should have used an introduction instead of copying and pasting an entire article. He also should have quoted or highlighted words lifted verbatim. Saying “read more” suggests there is more evidence to support his thoughts, NOT that it is a mirror image of what his article states. No, sir, take your RTFA comment and grab a copy of the “Little Brown Book of Grammar”. I’m sure the title will scare you off, but at least you will learn what a proper citation is. Cheerio, captain.

      • ThomasER916

        You’re an unbelievable moron. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence relies on Struck and White.

    • exboyracer

      Doesn’t make it any less stupid spew.

      • ThomasER916

        That doesn’t make you any less of a Libtard.

        • exboyracer

          Proud to be a liberal progressive and belong to a party that stands for something other than making rich people richer and destroying our country.

          • ThomasER916

            OMG! You’re so indoctrinated you’re beyond stupid!

            Can you count? I’m asking a question as to whether or not you understand simple numbers. Stupid people can count. You can’t count. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can look and see who the party of top 10 Richest Congressmen. You can’t. Anyone can look and see which party gets the most votes rich and welfare queens. You can’t.

            Keep posting those bumper-sticker slogans about “evil rich Republicans.” Keep being a Useful Idiot. I’m sure your dip$hit friends think it’s kewl.

          • exboyracer

            Being rich isn’t the problem — not knowing the meaning of noblesse oblige is the problem — Why do you vote against your best interests – it amazes me.

            Look at the Kochs vs Gates or Buffet — who gives back more to this country that gave them the tools to make themselves rich.

    • Perrofelix

      Oh, ok. Joe is completely blameless and does not hold any of these ideas at all and is therefore unworthy of criticism. Whatever.

      • ThomasER916

        Oh, OK. You’re a d!ckless Libtard. Whatevs.

        Peace out yo! YOLO! SWAG! Tru dat!

        • Perrofelix

          And you’re beneath criticism, or contempt.

          • ThomasER916

            Yeah “Bro”! Right on maan! Whatevs!

            You’re like totally harshin’ my mellow!

  • WardKendall

    Even though you didn’t write the article, Joe, I and many others agree with its sentiments 100%. But I’ll up the ante even further: we need a WHITE COUNTRY even more so – or at least white back to 1955 standards. Then we white Americans could breathe free again, criticize whom we want, laugh and joke about whom we want, and live in the kinds of neighborhoods where we want – without being called “racist” ever again.

    Because THAT was a better, freer, happier America and every white man in his heart knows it!

    More importantly, the very existence of Western Civilization is now at stake, as reading this powerful, thought-provoking novel will show you:

    • XsojX

      As an American Indian, can I suggest you all just leave and go back to your perspective cave holes? America didn’t start as white, didn’t become white and never will be white. Get over your fallible idea. Furthermore, western civilization has NOTHING to do with being white.

      • ThomasER916

        LOL! Your telling the people who created the modern world to “go back to the cave”? Are you really THAT fcking stupid?! Apparently you are. Apparently you’re so stupid you believe that, magically, everyone who disagrees with you politically is transformed and has a new set of DNA. Once they agree, magically, they’re transformed as well.

        Your people never had a mechanical wheel and lived in tents. Pull your head out of your loin-cloth covered ass for a minute!

    • exboyracer

      The really sad sad thing about your post is – I am not sure if you are trying to be funny or not.

      • JosephP

        No, sadly he’s serious.

        • exboyracer

          God save the US from his idiots.

    • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

      If you can’t laugh, joke or breathe free because of a paralyzing fear of being called a racist, then you’re kind of a coward, no?

    • JosephP

      Is that the book by Ward Kendall? He thinks that since Mark Zuckerberg married an Asian, his parents will be upset that their grandchildren will have slant eyes. I’m guessing he’s a racist.

    • Perrofelix

      See? THIS is who is supporting Joe the Dumber and the Tea Party. I am a white man (born a while after 1955 though) and I don’t think “in my heart” that me and my Latino boyfriend would be welcome in your 1955. Your 1955 where you could keep the women and the minorities down, call people ch*nks, j*ps, n*ggers, without being called racist again. Yep. Your 1955 where your car got 10 miles to the gallon but that was okay because we were not going to run out of fossil fuel or warm the planet to the point where massive species die-offs are beginning. Your 1955 that was still a good 14 years before the Stonewall riots where gays and lesbians (and trannies) finally fought back against police harassment… where police harassment was ONLY kept at bay when those gay establishments run by the mob paid police their extortion money. A time when married abused women didn’t have much choice but to stay with their abusers.

      “THAT was a better, freer, happier America” in your imagination for every selfish white tea party man who longs for an era when he was in control and could put his foot on the neck of anyone else who was a little different.

      You are really saying that you wish you were someplace/sometime where everyone was just like you so you didn’t need to have any consideration for anyone else. You are a fossil. A dinosaur. And your time has run out. DON’T speak for me as a white man.

  • Eric

    “Criticism had nothing to do with color, because there had never been a black president, or at least one whom people recognized as black.”

    One of the most racist things I’ve ever read.

    • ThomasER916

      That’s because you’re a d!ckless Libtard.

      • Perrofelix

        Eric, he used the same criticism for me. He already ran out of original material.

        • ThomasER916

          You’re so stupid you can’t even click on the User Name. Yes! You really are THAT stupid!

          Keep posting Sock Puppet!

          • Perrofelix

            I replied to you and then addressed Eric. I knew what I was doing. You on the other hand have decided to log on and waste everyone’s time with “You’re so stupid!” “You’re such an idiot!” “You’re a d!ckless Libtard!” And that’s about all there is to your repertoire.

  • mark reynolds

    You racist teabaggers will burn in Hell after we incinerate and bury all your ugly people. We will put you on a train, shoot you, throw you in a hole, and bury you. Run you fuckers

    • Perrofelix

      Nice fantasy and way to vent, mark, and I understand you’re angry but obviously we do not want to become the 4th Reich or the French Terror as we become more enlightened. Watching the GOP and the Tea Party become more like the Whigs (ie. extinct) due to the damage they are doing to themselves right now is good enough for me.

    • ThomasER916

      LOL! There’s nothing more hilarious than the empty threats of a d!ckless Libtard.

      What “guns” are you going to use? Is it a Pop Tart munched in the shape of a gun?

      Come on Libby the Libtard! We know you have no d!ck. Your bull dykes like Rosie O’Donnell and Elena Kagan will have to do the fighting for you. That will be hilarious!

  • Eric

    Gotta love the posting policy. “We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity…” Racism is OK for the OP but not for comments.

    • ThomasER916

      Gotta love d!ckless Libtards and their Pavlovian Response!

  • Lee McLaurin

    Some of you jackasses can’t wait to trip over yourselves to point out that this article was written by a black man. So what? It changes nothing. Kevin Jackson is a black token for the republican party who’s sold his soul for a lucrative position as political consultant for Beck, Limbaugh, Breitbart, etc., to buffer the calls of racism when they say something stupidly racist.. He adopts the racist language of the right-wing nuts because he knows it’s what they want. You guys are just stupid enough to fall for it.

    • ThomasER916

      There’s no bigger jackass than a Libtard screaming racism 24/7.

      Yes! You really are that stupid.

      And I thought you dip$hit Libtards didn’t believe in “souls”. How can anyone “sell” something that doesn’t exist? Of course, you’re an indoctrinated idiot screaming racism so that tells us everything.

      • Lee McLaurin

        And THIS^^^ ladies and gentlemen is emblematic of the problems of the new extreme faction of the republican party. If you read all of ThomasER916′s posts, they look as if they were written by a whining 13 year old schoolgirl. This is exactly what they believe passes for discussion and rational thought. It’s pathetic.

  • OhioBrian

    Wow! This is so disgraceful I don’t even know where to begin. Very much a more insidious vein though of the now common ransom argument “Vote for Republicans..otherwise they’ll go insane, hold government hostage, and cause chaos throughout the land.” How do you explain to someone though that it is ignorance that causes racism when they are absolutely ignorant of just how racist they already are?! It must be those simple black people though voting as they do in almost irreproachable majorities for the Democrats, while the white “Solid South” is the bulwark of the Republican party. Whatever their arguments today, don’t forget the continuous thread all the way back to when Goldwater turned his back on the Civil Rights Act, and Nixon/Regan stabbed black people in the back coming after MLK’s advances with their “Southern Strategy” fanning the flames of racial resentment. It’s not lost on African Amercians (“back when they had sanity” according to Joe) that Reagan launched his official presidential campaign with his famous dog whistle “States’ Rights” (as opposed to civil?) speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi…that town of brotherly love (among its few thousand citizens) previously most well known for the 1964 civil rights worker murders that occurred there. Oh, but I guess Reagan was good for the economy…say nothing for the fact that he cut taxes immensely yet not government spending..a government stimulus almost unprecedented in our history yet was the start of our ballooning debt and deficits. Bush/Obama faced with the greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression though have very little to work with, even having to cut hundreds of thousands of government jobs due to Republican austerity moves. Just sayin u’d think that as many dirt pipes as Joe’s dealt with, his blowtorch and hacksaw would be worn out by now!

    • ThomasER916

      Nothing is more disgraceful than a d!ckless Libtard shouting racism at an article they’re too stupid to read.

      • OhioBrian

        No, unlike some, I’m not a troll…how many spammers have posted just a few messages I might ask? Also, ironic as I actually think of myself as pretty conservative on a lot of issues, but think the Republican party’s gone off the reservation over this one, and they’re never gonna get minority votes or get back to being a majority party by putting forth antagonistic, incendiary stuff like this. It actually infuriates me that in some ways that every presidential election this problem only gets worse; it’s no accident either that Ken Mehlman and Michael Steele have apologized for the Southern Strategy and if the modern party wants to get back into the good graces of a lot of people, its going to have to stop calling this, or Republicans’ ignoring of the black vote, concerns, etc. over the past century, a myth, or otherwise try to rewrite this history. Reagan, who I don’t think was personally a racist, did appeal to a lot of these resentments in both the North & South at the expense of black people…and there’s been plenty of people within his administration and involved in Republican politics at the time that have confessed as much…probably the most famous incident being Lee Atwater’s extremely candid explanation.

        • ThomasER916

          Why not? Why shouldn’t people post this? Why should anyone be silenced because it leads to Liberal Pearl Clutching?

  • http://www.grannyguerrillas.com/ Molli Nickell

    When I was a child, my parents took me to see the musical, “South Pacific.” Lyrics from one song suggested that children had to ” taught to be afraid of people whose skin is a different shade. . . ” When I asked my dad (a surgeon) what this meant, he told me “many people simply don’t understand that inside, we’re all the same color. We’re pink!” Might be a good idea to keep this in mind and stay off the “hate” bandwagon and instead, engage in dialogue about issues that are common to all of us “pink” people.

    • ThomasER916

      Maybe you should take your lecturing and manufactured moral outrage to the NAACP, La Raza, SPLC, ADL, WJC, and the other alphabet of race-based political organizations.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steven.belsky Steven Belsky

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/12/joe-the-plumber-racism_n_4090529.html

    ======

    JOE IS __ ONLY __ AGREEING WITH __ WHAT WAS WRITTEN ON A WEBSITE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

    http://theblacksphere.net/2013/10/america-needs-white-republican-president/#BOTSZxPlAVqYyB2X.99

    THE AUTHOR IS A BLACK PERSON NAMED Author: Kevin Jackson

    • JosephP

      It was racist when Jackson wrote it. It’s still racist when “Joe” says it.

      You must be one of those people that thinks that since some black people use the “N” word a lot, it can’t be a bad thing to say.

      • ThomasER916

        You’re a d!ckless Libtard screaming racism. You still have no d!ck.

        You must be one of those d!ckless Libtards that shouts slogans and slobbers like Pavlov’s Dog.

  • mardec

    LOL…the comment on this site prove Joe’s point. Because he has the nerve to criticize a black President that makes him a racist? You see, that is his point and you guys prove it.

    • RTRR

      No, idiot. Criticizing black presidents doesn’t make you racist. Saying we shouldn’t have black presidents makes you racist. Obviously.

      • ThomasER916

        No one said that you d!ckless Libtard, except you. Obviously. But you’re so stupid from indoctrination you need to set up a Straw Man then lie endlessly. Yes. You really are THAT stupid. You invent an argument then posture moral outrage.

        • RTRR

          “No one said that?” What? Did you even read this blog post? Jesus Christ. That’s literally what this post is about, arguing that we should only have white Presidents.

          • ThomasER916

            “That’s LITERALLY what this post is about, arguing that we should ONLY have white Presidents.”

            Man you’re stupid! You really are stupid. You’re so stupid you can’t even be correct on accident. You’re so stupid you need to invent arguments. Do you know what “literally” means? Come stupid. Think about it. How about “only”? Where is the word “only” found? You said “literally”. That’s your argument you d!ckless retard. I’ll wait forever while you search for a quote, even though you won’t and you’ll believe you can bluster and troll your way through this.

          • RTRR

            So didn’t read the post, did you? How embarrassing.The post is arguing that black presidents cause racial tension and we need a white republican president. Not merely a republican president, but specifically a white one. Since we can ONLY have one President at at time, the post it literally saying we should ONLY have a white President. Please just stop. This is so sad.

    • JosephP

      Joe’s “point” was that he is a racist. The comments are that his “point” is reprehensible.

      • ThomasER916

        Joe’s “point” was that you’re a d!ckless Libtard. The comments are that your “point” is idiotic.

    • Perrofelix

      Not very bright, are you? Joe did not criticize the president once in this article. He criticized the way in which criticism of the President is handled and said this “problem” would all go away if we just elected a white Republican president.

      An analogy would be arguing that you could solve political, cultural and social conflicts and conflicts about a about desegregation by just exterminating/exporting all the black people. That wouldn’t be racist, would it?

      • ThomasER916

        You really are stupid. That’s the point. You’re so stupid you can’t even be correct on accident. You’re so indoctrinated, like Pavlov’s Dog, you can’t tell the difference between a ringing bell and a real bowl of food.

        • Perrofelix

          Sure, whatevs. Your reply to me here is a carbon copy of your roughly 30 other (and counting) replies you have made to other posters since you logged on and started spamming the comment section. Not even a nod of content to reply to the actual items being discussed.

          • ThomasER916

            How’s your rectal prolapse?

  • OhYeahBaby

    You are a disgusting sack of sh*t.

    • ThomasER916

      You’re a d!ckless Libtard.

  • OhioBrian

    Wow! This is so disgraceful I don’t even know where to begin. Very much a more insidious vein though of the now common ransom argument “Vote for Republicans..otherwise they’ll go batty, hold government hostage, and cause chaos throughout the land.” How do you explain to someone though that it is ignorance that causes racism when they are absolutely ignorant of just how racist they already are?! It must be those simple minorities though voting as they do in almost irreproachable majorities for the Democrats, while the white “Solid South” is the bulwark of the Republican party. Whatever their arguments today, don’t forget the continuous thread all the way back to when Goldwater turned his back on the Civil Rights Act, and Nixon/Reagan turned their backs on black people coming after MLK’s advances with their “Southern Strategy” fanning the flames of racial resentment. It’s not lost on African Americans (“back when they had sanity” according to Joe) that Reagan launched his official presidential campaign with his famous dog whistle “States’ Rights” (as opposed to civil?) speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi…that town of brotherly love (among its few thousand citizens) previously most well known for the 1964 civil rights workers’ deaths that occurred there. Oh, but I guess Reagan was good for the economy…say nothing for the fact that he cut taxes immensely yet not government spending..a government stimulus almost unprecedented in our history yet was the start of our ballooning debt and deficits. Bush/Obama faced with the greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression though have very little to work with, even having to cut hundreds of thousands of government jobs due to Republican austerity moves. Just sayin u’d think that as many dirt pipes as Joe’s dealt with, his blowtorch and hacksaw would be worn out by now!

    • JosephP

      “Wow! This is so disgraceful!” is all that needs to be said.

      • ThomasER916

        “Wow! You’re a d!ckless Libtard!” is all that needs to be said.

    • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

      I know where to start: It’s his own fault for causing the confusion, but Joe didn’t write this. This is a re-post of a thing written by a black conservative, Kevin Jackson.

      From there, I suppose we could point out that both you and Jackson are wrong on the timeframe of black Americans losing/retaining/gaining their sanity, so to speak. Blacks have gone for Democrats since Hoover. In other words, black voters voted for Democrats throughout the period in which this meant voting for the same people lighting crosses on their lawns. This puts a crimp in the facile narrative that has it that, while the white population of the south remained static with regard to racial attitudes, the parties dramatically realigned, thus explaining the GOP’s hold on the formerly Democrat-held “solid south” and black voters’ overwhelming preference for the Democrat party.

      The south didn’t actually go fully to the GOP until the 90′s, some time after both the CRA and the “southern strategy”. In the interim, the Democrat party managed to elect two southern, white males to the presidency. This further complicates the narrative, no? What happened then?

      At the time the CRA was passed, fewer than a quarter of the American public supported segregation and the space within the south in which racist rhetoric was politically profitable was shrinking. This was in large part due to the war-funded industrialization of the south, which drew in populations from the north and west and engendered a new middleclass there. This new middleclass was disproportionately voting for GOP candidates leaving the Democrat party with a shrinking demographic of workingclass racists. LBJ, who had spent his entire senate career caucusing with the segregationist wing of his party, was shrewd enough to recognize he had to cut bait and cede the region. The region didn’t leave the Democrat party so quickly, however.

      Nixon replaced LBJ and announced his “southern strategy” as a strategy to move southern politics past the politics of racial hate and towards the expansion and acquisition of the growing suburban, middleclass, christian demographic of the south for the GOP. If it were a bid to acquire the workingclass racist vote, it was an abject failure. The states of the deep south instead opted to go as a block for the independent campaign of the progressive segregationist candidate, George Wallace. Then the south went for Jimmy Carter.

      By the time Reagan made his second (not first) campaign stop at the Neshoba County Fair, a popular forum for stump speeches and politicking, he was separated from the Mississippi Burning incident by twenty miles and sixteen years. There is nonetheless an advanced form of Guilt By Association fallacy which prevails among Democrat supporters which attributes guilt by association on Reagan’s part to a thing which happened through a place he spoke at sixteen years prior. The brief element of his speech which mentioned “states rights” was not about Civil Rights, but about Social Security and the Dept. of Education and other parts of the federal purview which had been drastically expanded by the Great Society legislation. The meaning of his appearance in the south was to drive his campaign directly into the heart of the territory of his incumbent opponent, Jimmy Carter, who is never regarded as anything other than a bulwark of progressive values. As if to lay the phoniness of the claim against Reagan’s appearance bare, the 1988 Democrat presidential candidate, Michael Dukakis gave a speech at the Neshoba County Fair on the same stage as Reagan had, and came away from it with no one claiming that he was covertly celebrating the murder of civil rights activists by doing so. It’s horseshit.

      • OhioBrian

        Yes, very true this page gives no proper attribute to Mr. Jackson being the original author other than the link at the end. Joe did post though so most would essentially assume he agrees with the article’s premise. Also, I object to the “blacks losing sanity” verbiage in the article as to me this is racist.

        Next, true that black people have been voting Democrat…for president, though back to Roosevelt, not Hoover…Al Smith also did some of the groundwork. The common stat I’ve seen is 23% went for FDR in ’32, with 71% going for in ’36..a landslide year. After this though presidential support stayed in upper 60′s & 70′s till the Truman & Dixiecrat split bump, and then finally to mid 80% range with Civil Rights Act, and Goldwater running partly on “States’ Rights”. -In ’64 he captured only his home state of Arizona, and the deep southern states. This was essentially the “switch” as before Democratic candidates usually did best in the South and less well elsewhere. It somewhat mirrored Southern politics too which you alluded to; many African Americans polled up until this time considered themselves Republican and voted this way Congressionally/locally yet voted Democrat for president, just as many in the South called themselves Democrats..even though they had started voting Republican for president. 2008 was the culmination of this worsening trend with over 95% of the black vote going for Obama, and although 2012 was less percentage wise, this year was the highest black turnout ever and surpassed the white rate for the first time ever as well. But all this illustrates is that the trend has been getting worse, not better over time.

        You are correct too that many in the civil rights era did not support segregation, or were overtly racist, however that doesn’t remove culpability as there were many or even majorities against actively helping black people overcome these problems at the time; many were opposed to segregation..especially laws enforcing, but many were also opposed to civil rights laws as “you can’t change peoples’ minds through legislation” or “these issues should be left to the states and individual business owners.” It was into this world that the Republican Party could have taken the high road and supported civil rights reversing the trend of blacks voting more and more for Democrats, but instead the national party (not necessarily local or Congress) decided to do what was politically expedient at the time and sideline or even antagonize the black communities’ concerns, while appealing to the resentments and fears of whites. And I’m not sure the argument that blacks have been supporting Democrats back to Roosevelt is not worse than thinking it only goes back to the 60s, as this sets a horrible standard, one of which again has only been getting worse over time. This was also my “continuous thread” argument, that whatever the views of the Republican party today or even if their arguments are valid as they are in some instances I think on racial issues like Affirmative Action, breakup of black families, personal responsibility, etc., there’s an ugly line that is still not recognized and connects the party back to a seedier past.

        The Neshoba speech is one example: While true that Dukakis spoke there, Reagan was the first presidential candidate to do so and to invoke “States’ Rights” while not mentioning Civil, in an area where yes, the murders were 16 years before however still extremely raw in the minds of many. This was because most of the killers had or were then being released from jail as never charged with murder, only civil rights violations by the federal government. At best, and I mean the very best, giving such a speech could only be chalked up to being extremely insensitive, and then of course Reagan never apologized for it, nor stuff like the “Cadillac Welfare Queens”, veto-ing the Anti-Apartheid Act..which then got the very rare override, or even directly for saying the CRA “humiliates the South.” Again, I don’t think Reagan was a racist, but running for the third time in 1980 and during his presidency, he and many Republicans certainly flamed these fires when politically expedient…and they definitely were at the time which is why it was done, though historically this now looks reprehensible. Ironically, Republicans are somewhat getting a taste of their own medicine in this sense these days as starting to feel like a minority party or that they are being marginalized…which in some cases there are legitimate grievances and Democrats have to recognize their own failures in reaching out or antagonizing people, namely Southerners..many of which used to vote for them.

        For more as I don’t want to get into everything, reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan's_Neshoba_County_Fair_%22states'_rights%22_speech

        Finally, it seems to me too that all too often conservatives seem obsessed with trying to convince themselves that they haven’t had a racially charged past, rather than appealing to those whose votes they haven’t been getting…many for the past 80 years! And what I would say loud and clear is that if this history is not recognized, or much worse is denied or “white washed”, Republicans will never get the black vote in any capacity, especially as there’s still so many that lived through these eras who vote now as they did then(or even more so), and are telling the truth to their children and grandchildren on this issue while Republicans are still telling (mainly themselves) lies.

        Oh, and about Dukakis speaking there, it is actually surprising they didn’t think he was celebrating the tragedies of the civil rights activists…after all from the infamous “Willie Horton” ad, ”Dukakis not only opposes the death penalty, he allowed first-degree murderers to have weekend passes from prison.” This being perhaps the culmination of playing on racial fears and resentments.

        Hehe, the culmination of life imitating (graphic) art…Mayor Quimby supports revolving door prisons. He even released Sideshow Bob…a man twice convicted of attempted murder. Can you trust a man like Mayor Quimby? Vote Sideshow Bob for Mayor.

  • NWLefty

    Can the white president at least be a gay woman?

    • ThomasER916

      Another d!ckless Libtard. Gratz!

      How’s your rectal prolapse?

  • Brooke Michelle

    “As Fox News showcased.” – fantastic.

    • JosephP

      Now that was funny!

  • Josh Flaum

    Oh, I get it. You’re a racist plumber. Good article!

    • ThomasER916

      Oh, I get it. You’re a d!ckless Libtard. Good post!

  • Andrew

    Quit talking about what the American People need. The American People voted in fairly our current President in a peaceful, democratic election. It was the choice of the majority of the American People. Nothing could possibly be more just or patriotic. Seems the only people that have a problem with that are, surprise, surprise, bitter republicans like Joe the Whateverhis250kayearjobtrulyis. Republicans are so nationalistic and patriotic, yet only when the tide is in their favor.

    • Kent2012

      another twit, Joe did not write this piece, a man of color did….oh and the election was riddled with fraud…but you do not read any real news….

      • Andrew

        Yes, I know, Joe took this article written by a black man. I’m aware of that, but obviously it reflects Joe’s sentiment. The election was NOT riddled with fraud, unlike the last time a Republican was elected President.

        And I read a lot of news. BBC, PBS, local news, Wall Street Journal, NYTimes, DailyMail.

        And YOUR news of choice, Kent? Hmm, lemme guess…Starts with “F”, ends with “X”, rhymes with “Pox.”

        Why don’t you rightwingers educate yourselves a little instead of parroting what’s been told to you by proven liars?

        • ThomasER916

          Obviously you’re an idiot, an indoctrinated, know-nothing, Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism.

    • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

      I love this “there was an election, therefor dissent is wrong” argument I keep hearing from Democrats lately. I don’t remember it being so popular from 2000-2008, though.

      http://harpers.org/archive/2005/08/none-dare-call-it-stolen/

      http://polipundit.com/?p=14070

      http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/on_the_trail/2004/11/blame_the_electoral_college.html

      http://rense.com/general59/kery.htm

      • Jed Covington

        No one is arguing dissent is wrong. What they argue is that if you win an election it means the bulk of the people favored your policies, so to keep arguing that you’re doing this on behalf of the American people who not only voted against you in the last election, but who have shown in poll after poll that they disagree with your tactics even more now , is a bit disingenuous. The truth is you’re finished as a national arty and this is the only card you have left to play.

        • ThomasER916

          “No one is arguing dissent is wrong.”

          OMG you’re stupid! You’re so stupid you actually believe that sentence, while ignoring every other post you just made with your new Sock Account.

          • Jed Covington

            Thomas what do I have to do to get you and your little tea bag into my sock account with me? You’re making me crazy with all your sweet sexy talk!

          • ThomasER916

            All Liberals are dickless faggots. I wouldn’t be surprised you need your rectal prolapse reworked.

          • ThomasER916

            Another d!ckless Libtard with a Sock Account.

      • Perrofelix

        Your links to articles about John Kerry notwithstanding,
        “Elections have consequences” – GWB
        “We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due.” – Cheney arguing for break-the-bank tax cuts
        “You Are Either With Us, Or With the Terrorists” – GWB

        The Dixie Chicks experience…

        No one says dissent is wrong. In fact, you tools on the right are always the ones conflating criticism with censorship. Economic terrorism and shutting down government on the other hand…

    • ThomasER916

      ^^This Sock Account has 8 posts! It’s a Sock Account created to manufacture Libtard Outrage. This is the internet version of a Libtard Paid Protest where they get homeless people to hold signs.

      • Jed Covington

        Oooo! Please say “sock account” again! It just makes me feel soooo good! Mmm Mmm Mmmm! You really know the way to a man’s heart!

  • Eric

    Kevin Jackson’s (the uncredited author) “about” blurb: “Jackson is a highly sought national speaker, and he has graced the stage with luminaries as Sarah Palin, Neal Boortz, Herman Cain, Judge Napolitano, and Andrew Breitbart, to name a few.” Enough said.

    • Jed Covington

      Ha! Luminaries! Awesome!

      • ThomasER916

        Ha! D!ckless Libtard! Awesome!

        • Jed Covington

          Thomas, I think I love you. Say “sock account” again; it just makes me feel all soft and mushy inside. mushy

  • joe blow

    Yes, this does make you racist.

    • ThomasER916

      Yes, this does make you stupid.

  • mbryan

    “Fighting for one’s civil rights was not racist then, nor is it racist now.” No, but defending your unearned privileges and systemic advantages, while attacking every program that tends to favor the poor because they are statistically more likely to be minorities, definitely is racist – and that’s what the Tea Party really is all about: defending white privilege against a perceived loss of control of the nation’s affairs to that black man in the White House.

    No one criticizes the Tea Party critics of the President because they are disagreeing with a black man. We criticize those critics because they use racial stereotypes and slurs to do so. Examples? Insisting that he is a Nigerian Muslim. Calling him the “food stamp” President. Depicting him as a tribal shaman with a bone in his nose when criticizing Obamacare. Nobody is fooled by the thinly veiled racism of such “criticism”. If black or hispanic critics of a white President were to depict him committing incest with a too-closely-related cousin, or picking a banjo in a denim coverall, or calling him the WASP-in-Chief, or insisting against all evidence and reason that he was actually born in Sweden because that’s his father’s heritage, THAT would be racist – and THAT is exactly how the Tea Party chooses to “criticize” this President.

    • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

      No one criticizes the Tea Party critics of the President because they are disagreeing with a black man.

      I just tried the search string, “because ‘black man in the white house’” and returned three and a half million hits of progressive bloggers and pundits being precisely that reductive. I could try other permutations, but, you know, you said “no one” and I can just cite Martin Bashir and call it a day. The fact that is known between you and I and everyone else reading this is that President Obama’s defenders rarely strive to address his critics with more depth than “because, black man in the white house”. I don’t think you’re being deliberately obtuse by suggesting otherwise. I just assume that you, like others of your party, are on an extended bender, drunk on the most facile and demagogically potent arguments available to you and haven’t had a sober moment to audit the quality of your rhetoric for some time.

      • Jed Covington

        Do you even understand the post you just responded to? Thank God Americans are finally waking up to what’s been happening in the GOP. You’re now strictly a regional party. Take what’s left of your dignity with you and secede. It’s OK with us this time…

        • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

          It was okay with your party last time too, wasn’t it?

          • Jed Covington

            Technically. But then again the Democratic party was predominantly southern at the time. This ended when Johnson signed the Civil Rights act and they all fled en masse to the GOP. This is not mere speculation on my part, those are the facts. So yes, they were Democrats in the same way you could say the Menudo of 1995 had the same name as the Menudo of 1982. So a point to you. Well played.

          • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

            Actually, the fact is that all of two congressmen fled to the GOP. The rest of the Democrat segregationist caucus remained Democrats until their retirements. For Fritz Hollings, for example, that was as late as 2005. That they were capable of simply abandoning apocalyptic racial rhetoric when it became politically unprofitable testifies of how venal and insincere the progressive mind is as much as does the readiness of the northern elements of the party to forgive and forget.

            Not so much with the base, though. Those New Deal, WPA, “Union Yes!” types who were the heart of the Democrat Solid South constituency preferred to go for an independent who was progressive and segregationist to Nixon. Then the base down there returned to the party fold for Carter.

            Wait a minute. How did that happen? Am I counting this right? Let’s see… it was Lyndon Baines “Just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference, or it’ll be like Reconstruction all over again” Johnson. Then Nixon and the south went for Wallace. Then Ford while the south went for Carter. Then Carter won and the south went for him that time too… .

            Wait, I think I see where I got it mixed up. Was Carter a Republican?

          • Jed Covington

            Incredibly disingenuous answer…you know I was speaking of southern dems as a whole not simply the congress that voted on that one particular bill..Thurmond, Lott, Finally and dozens of other elected officials switched parties as a result of the voting rights act…Nixon and Reagan both employed their infamous southern strategies by dog whistling a crowd-rand now they’ve taken over the party. The South is all they have now and soon even Texas will be in the D column, probably by 2020, maybe 24. But, hey, if that’s what you believe (( and I think you know you’re full of it) than more power to you. You’re free to see the world however you like. Enjoy it while it lasts. that

          • Jed Covington

            And if you really believe the south would have voted Humphrey over Nixon if ( and I love that you call him a segregationist and a progressive) Wallace hadn’t been in the race then you’re either a liar or a fool.

  • aftica

    Why not just GROW A PAIR you left wing nut jobs admit that you ALL have racial biases. And now all you extremist Obama goons can go home and drink your cool aid.

    • Jed Covington

      My racial bias as a white male is most other white males are a bunch of impotent losers, so afraid their old shriveled hands are slowly slipping off the wheels of power –and so frightened by this skinny black man who became president that they have endowed him with almost supernatural powers. How else, they ask, could have my life turned out so wrong and my Johnson shriveled to the size of a peanut? How come that nerd from homeroom is making so much more money than me? It can’t be my fault! It can’t be that I never went college! College is for elitist snobs! Hey-Party of Individual Responsibility –Take some for yourself and stop blaming the guy with the “foreign sounding” name in the Whitehouse.

      • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

        I noticed that another aspect of white privilege you readily avail yourself of is the one where you’re entitled to define blackness over the heads of actual black people and helpfully whitesplain which ones are “real” blacks and which are “tokens”. You’re the best, man. Keep it going.

        • Jed Covington

          I agree with everything you wrote…except the bit about White Plains. I need to do some research on that bit.

          • ThomasER916

            Nothing gets a d!ckless Libtard frothing at the mouth like anti-White racism.

          • Jed Covington

            Yes. You are right again. I want to hate you but I can’t. You make me feel whole. Saul Alinsky be damned! But I still don’t understand the bit about frothing White Plains? Is it like a Frosty from Wendy’s? That sounds delish!

      • aftica

        Your comments are more racist than most others in this site. You prove my point. And Obama is a half caste, half white. More racial profiling

  • Jed Covington

    “We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity (etc.)” Hey look! Joe the ( not even really a) Plumber (AKA: Who?) doesn’t understand irony. What a surprise. Silly (not really a) a plumber! Discourse is for people with college degrees! ( or at least the brains to get into one!)

    • ThomasER916

      You’re unbelievably stupid.

  • tori445

    I have a hard time understanding why everyone is bashing Joe for writing this article when it was very clearly written by Kevin Jackson. An African American. Read the rest at TheBlackSphere.net And Joe did not plagiarize the article, it is here posted here verbatim as it was written by Mr. Jackson. There seems to be a lack of comprehension with many of the posters here. I do not necessarily agree with the entire article or Mr. Wurzelbacher.

    • Jed Covington

      Because Kevin Jackson is not taken seriously by anyone except white conservatives looking for a token black conservative who supports their views. His numbers are notoriously taken out of context and manipulated. Anyone who really wants to understand the socioeconomic issues he’s dealing with would do well to research them on his or her own –if they did they would quickly find Jackson’s claims false -or blatant misrepresentations at the least.

      • ThomasER916

        OMG you’re stupid!

        • Jed Covington

          Nope, been here 7 months genius.

  • Bigmouth

    Well, if a black man said it, it must not be racist lol. Seriously, how stupid are you?

    • he_who_scoffs_at_danger

      You mean like the n-word?

      Oh, wait. You mean totally not like the n-word. The n-word can be racist or not racist depending on whether the speaker is black. A rhetorical frame which enables criticism of a Democrat President is always racist, even if he’s a white guy from Arkansas, IIRC.

      • Bigmouth

        >>The n-word can be racist or not racist depending on whether the speaker is black.<<

        Um, no. The n-word can be racist or not depending on CONTEXT. Which is why a number of black leaders have called for a boycott of its use even by BLACK comics. Keep trying, though. A foolish consistency is always the hobgoblin of little minds like yours lol.

  • Jed Covington

    Sorry…didn’t see it was Fox that “showcased” it. I’m sure it is totally “fair and balanced” as they have no agenda at all. Did they send you a pitcher of Kool-Aid with it? Did it taste like Reagan’s hair dye? Sooo delicious!

    • ThomasER916

      I saw that you created this Sock Account. Was it anything like your Sandra “Funded by Leftists” Fluke?

      • Perrofelix

        First, it’s called a “sock puppet” account. Second, I see from his history that Jed has been posting for 7 months with this account. You’d do better to call mine a sock puppet since it’s only been 3 days or so since it was created. But I see you have been randomly calling half a dozen or so accounts here “Sock Accounts”. Yes my account is new, yes, I am new here, and yes, this is probably the last time I’ll want to engage on this site, dealing with the likes of you and giving Joe’s site “monetized eyeballs.”

        • ThomasER916

          First of all, you’re an idiot. If you want to make a point then make a valid point. Sock Account is the shorthand version of Sock Puppet Account. No one says tarpaulin anymore. They say tarp. I know you’re stupid but you’re not that stupid.

          I would say “quit being anally retentive” however you’re a raging homosexual so that’s not possible.

          • Perrofelix

            My point that Jed’s account is at least 7 months old remains, no?

          • ThomasER916

            Your “point” was to pose as someone with a towering intellect and superior education. That was your first point. You failed.

            Now go to the doctor and get your rectal prolapse taken care of. Your b-hole is not a va-jay-jay. Make sense?

          • Perrofelix

            What? Sorry you see it that way. I call it responding to the author’s article and to its supporters and detractors. Actually responding to the ideas being discussed, not just generically calling everyone idiots and libtards and trying to make humor out of homophobia. You still haven’t explained how a 7-month old account with comments on multiple stories is suddenly a sock puppet. I’m leaving now to go get chicken wings. Don’t take that as a sign of “victory.” I have better things to do than keep replying to a thread that only has you actively commenting on it right now.

          • ThomasER916

            Sure you are. You just keep posting. You can’t help yourself. Pavlov was right. You need to slobber at an imaginary dinner because the bell is ringing.

  • Suthrnboy

    For six long years, conservatives said nothing while America blew its
    wad rebuilding the infrastructure and governments of the Muslim
    countries of Iraq and Afghanistan while letting America go to hell in a
    handbasket. “Needy Iraqi? Here’s a new school and a new hospital! Needy
    Afghani? Here’s a new road and a new police force! Needy American? Y’all
    can just go to hell!” Sounds downright traitorous to me, but then
    again, I’m not a Muslim loving TEA party dunce!
    The TEA party’s
    preferred presidential candidate, Ted Cruz, is from Canada, their
    favorite news channel, FOXNews, was started by an Australian, and, as
    has already been established, they don’t mind all their tax dollars
    going to fund Muslim countries, but balk at any help for America. That
    America hate is strong in this group! I’m sure that the Middle East
    would welcome your traitorous extremism.

  • Jeffrey Robinson

    Just FYI, Joe the Racist,

    Just because you are reposting an African American doesn’t make you ‘non racist.’

    There are plenty of current and historical examples of members of a race that are self hating and subservient in regard to race and culture.

    In our culture, Joe the Idiot, it’s called “Uncle Tom.”

    Oh, wait that would require you to actually be educated and well read with critical thinking skills. No wonder your are a conservative! My bad.

    Racist.

    Jeffrey Lee Robinson

    • ThomasER916

      LOL! You’re such an idiot!

      • Jeffrey Robinson

        Thomas, no one wants to hear you project what you do with your socks.

        Manufacture outrage? Oh, because it actually can’t solicit a response from emotionally dead puppets of the conservative baby jesus party like yourself. Your limited intellect and empathy only allow you knee jerk reactions and you feel threats from all fronts readily, as any coward.

        You see, in order to have a debate, Thomas, you actually have to have some language and logic skills. Since you are bankrupt in both, you only have the dried tit called FOX news that you constantly suckle from to feel meaningful and intellectual.

        It’s ok, you keep in that bubble. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

        • ThomasER916

          Aw… Libby the Libtard is a chronic masturbator.

          BTW, nice Sock Account Libtard!

          • Jeffrey Robinson

            oh, look at Thomas pretend to be a thinker!

            So – you don’t masturbate? Oh, wait, that’s right, it would displease baby Jesus. What’s funny about you painfully ignorant people is that you project your own misguided values on others, stupidly thinking it will insult when all it does is perplex and mystify. Sorta like an odd zoo animal.

            And let’s see, my real name is on this account, and you can look me up and find out I’m the epic libtard you accuse me of; but not a lying idiot that uses the word sock account without actually looking it up, doing my research, and making a fool of myself in the process.

            But hey, that’s what you authority loving conservatives are trained to do, right? Way to go on becoming a non person.

            Also, to be retarded is to not be able to express one’s ideas articulately and intelligently as you just proved in your woeful inability to respond to anything I posted.

            Keep it up! It’s astounding fools like you that can’t think yourself out of a wet paper bag that is giving liberals the country back, in case you haven’t been keeping up with current events.

            Kiss your mom for me after you’re done with her. She’ll remember.

  • mike953

    Hey Joe, the problem is, none of these “White” presidents have had their American credentials questioned. If there had just been criticism of Obama’s policies, maybe the critics would not have been called racist. Many weren’t called racist. It is the racism inherent in the criticism (he is not like us) (he is Muslim) (he hates America) (he is a communist, nazi, you name it) that makes the critics seen as Racists. Say he spends too much money. Fine. Say he is too liberal. Fine. Say he wants to tax the rich more. FIne. Unfortunately, these criticisms are all too often tinged with the racist – he isn’t one of us and that IS racist.

  • snakeguy

    more racist fu cking nonsense from the radical right.

    I can’t wait till we can get those FEMA camps up and running and don’t have to deal with you dumb shlts anymore.

    • Kent2012

      another twit from twitville…..you need to check with your drug dealer, he has sold you some bad $hit bubba….

  • Sean Gale

    Number one: statements like, “America needs a white Republican president” are inherently racist, and you’re making a statement that it’s not doesn’t make it true.

    Number two: whoever thought that the election of President Obama was simply going to end racism in this country has never spent 2 minutes with a bigot, and has no idea how entrenched fear and stupidity can be. This was always going to be difficult at best, primarily because of fools like you now had race-baiting the president as an option, which you had never had before.

    And number three: you’re a failed plumber. Why should we take your opinion about the piping in our houses, let alone our national politics? Simply because cranky John McCain, in a feeble attempt to connect with the common man pulled you out of a crowd? In that case, let’s let the girls that rockstars pull up on stage to dance with them vote on the Grammys and the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

    Time for you to fade away…

    • ThomasER916

      What’s really stupid is you actually believe this bullshit.

  • Scott

    “Posting Policy: We have no tolerance for comments containing violence, racism, vulgarity, profanity, all caps, or discourteous behavior. Thank you for partnering with us to maintain a courteous and useful public environment where we can engage in reasonable discourse.” Does this apply to the actual article? That is, if one were to say, “I don’t like black presidents, and the above article demonstrates why this is totally not racist,” does that mean that such an utterance is not racist? Silly rhetorical games are fun, but intelligence is more desirable.

  • Lue Blacknell

    It is interesting that on Daily Kos -they have someone else that supposedly wrote this article. The reason I believe joe the plumber did not write this-he is too dumb! Not only can he not speak a complete sentence-he would not be able to write one either. Forget “joe blow”……….

    • ThomasER916

      Libtards are dumber than Joe the Plumber.

  • deanrd

    Joe represents the majority of Republicans. That’s just the way it is.

    • ThomasER916

      You’re so stupid from indoctrination you can’t even read. That’s just the way you are.

    • Jim

      And that’s America’s tragedy. Imagine: the party of Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower is now the party of this ignorant racist.

  • deanrd

    When you read that stupid article and realize that taxes are the lowest in 60 years, according to Republicans, we should be doing wonderful. And the reason we aren’t? Oh, because of Obama. And the GOP base actually believes it.

    • ThomasER916

      What’s even more amazing is when we read your comments, you’re just too stupid to realize Joe never wrote it. Yes! You really are THAT stupid!

  • dratman

    Revolting. No wonder Republicans are out, out, out of public life.

    • ThomasER916

      Nothing is more revolting than a Libtard. You’re so stupid you can’t even read.

      • Perrofelix

        Keep posting, I’m sure you’re doing your side all kinds of favors with this glimpse into the TEA Party mind.

        • ThomasER916

          Let’s consider the incredible number of Liberal Sock Accounts you’re defending, combined with your inability to understand that Copy-N-Paste doesn’t mean Author. Let’s take that into consideration as you posture enlightenment.

          That’s right! You can’t understand what Copy-N-Paste means. You don’t have the capacity to grasp something that simple. Meanwhile, your outrage is manufactured.

          So when a Libby screams racism over an article that was written by someone else, it puts it all into perspective. The “mind” of a Libtard is a wad of bumper-stickers.

          • Perrofelix

            Oh no, I get that Joe presented the article as if it were his own, and then included a link to “read the rest” that ended up showing the full article including the author. I get that he doesn;t kniow how to do attribution properly. I understand that the way you would normally do this is with copying and pasting, or via “Copy-N-Paste”(tm) as you call it.

            Telling me my feelings are manufactured because I “don’t understand Copy-N-Paste” is quite a leap.

          • ThomasER916

            “I get that he doesn;t kniow how to do attribution properly”

            ^^Children, this is what happens when you inflate your diction. Your grammar falls apart, usage becomes clunky and unnatural, and spelling is atrocious.

          • Perrofelix

            Oh, typo police. Goody goody. Because you think I’m too dumb to know how to write “doesn’t” or “know” and that this comes because I’m trying to “talk all mighty high”. I should stick to “I get that he dunno” and it’d be okay.

            On the other hand, your deflated vocabulary on this thread is what happens when you don’t bother to get an education. Al you can do is run around accusing others of creating sock puppets and calling them “d!ckless libtards” and idiots. You haven’t even addressed the thesis of the piece or its criticisms in any of your 30 or so comments here. You are wasting my time and yours.

          • ThomasER916

            “You are wasting my time and yours.”

            Typical Libtard, moralizing to everyone. Are you going to be a Food Fascist and force me to eat Kale while you eat double cheeseburgers like your thunder-thighed Messiah Moochelle?

          • Perrofelix

            You are free to keep posting in empty space. I never told you to stop. I encourage you to keep showing everyone the bright lights that shine in the TEA Party mind. I had my kale earlier, juiced. Now I’ma balance it out with chicken wings. You can eat whatever you like, even if it lands you in an ER and you are uninsured so my taxes have to pay for it.

          • ThomasER916

            “You are free to keep posting in empty space.”

            So now you’re giving me permission? Thank you Libtard! Thanks! I needed your permission to say something, just like Veterans need permission to visit their memorials in Washington DC.