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Animal Rights Activists Transforming USDA from Top to Bottom

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This article is part one of a four part series investigating the links between the United States Department of Agriculture and radical animal rights organizations.  These articles were written by Phil Christofanelli with The Cavalry Group, a national organization which defends the Constitutional rights of animal owners and breeders.

           

For most Americans, contact with the United States Department of Agriculture is rare, save for reading the occasional sticker on a package of ground chuck or baby carrots.  For farmers and animal breeders, the USDA is an ever-present and often arduous force.  Decisions made by these bureaucrats determine the viability and fate of many farms and livestock-based businesses every day.  Just as we have seen with the EPA and other agencies, this power makes the USDA a ripe target for infiltration by extremist elements on the Left who seek to radically remake American life.

 

At the forefront of organizations pressuring the USDA is the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS).  Many people believe that HSUS is a friendly organization that raises money for pet shelters through sappy commercials featuring abandoned dogs and cats.   In reality, HSUS is a radical animal organization with an agenda similar to PETA.  Despite what their commercials lead unsuspecting donors to believe, remarkably, only1% of HSUS donations go to animal shelters of any kind.  The lion’s share is funneled into a massive animal rights lobbying organization, buying off politicians in order to pass regulations that make raising livestock or purebred pets prohibitively expensive.  Ultimately, HSUS would like to see a meat-free America with all pets being adopted from shelters and all hunting and fishing prohibited by law. Many at HSUS even believe that  animals should be granted the same inalienable rights that citizens in the United States are afforded under the Constitution, including standing to sue their owners. Sounds crazy, right? Well, about that…

 

An obvious example of the HSUS-USDA connection can be found in the 2012 election.  In Iowa’s 4th Congressional District, Steve King was challenged for his seat by Christie Vilsack, wife of Tom Vilsack, Obama’s Secretary of the Dept. of Agriculture.  Campaign finance reports show that HSUS invested in Vilsack’s campaign to the tune of $500,000, almost their entire political war chest. Shortly thereafter, Vilsack began to obstruct efforts to resume horse processing, a key HSUS goal.

 

The overlap does not stop there.  One major change at the USDA in the past year has been the development of the new Retail Pet Rule.  This rule would require almost all small pet stores and breeders to fall under the jurisdiction of the onerous Animal Welfare Act, subjecting them to the expensive process of USDA inspection and licensing. This rule might as well have been written by HSUS president Wayne Pacelle himself, who is famous for once saying, “I don’t want to see another cat or dog born.”  The government’s own studies estimate that it will cost each breeder nearly $5000 to come into compliance with this regulation, a price which many small breeders are unable to pay.  Those breeders who are fortunate enough to survive this regulatory assault can look forward to having their inspections overseen by HSUS’ own former Litigation Attorney, Sarah Conant, who has been named the Director of Enforcement at the USDA.  Conant is the same individual who fined a Missiouri family $90,000 for selling bunnies.  Unsurprisingly, Pacelle has been pushing the new rule at every turn.   


All farmers and breeders in the United States are at risk under the Obama Administration. The HSUS agenda is being implemented at every turn by the USDA, often under the supervision of former HSUS employees.  Over the next week, we will be releasing a multipart series of articles to demonstrate the consequences of this attack on American Agriculture.

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  • Anja J

    Well, all it takes is for good Americans to do nothing, and groups like PETA or H$U$ win. All farmers should be supporting the ‘hobby pet breeder/exhibitors’ in their quest to change or eliminate APHIS 2011-0003 too because the ‘animal rights’ agenda is to first eliminate the breeding of pedigreed pet animals (dogs, cats, rabbits, ferrets etc) and once that is successfully along the way, they start with ‘food animals’ next, ie cattle, sheep, hogs etc. To me, this is like people attempting gun control, only with animals, it is still taking away your rights as an American!

  • crookedstick

    Why shouldn’t we be allowed to abuse animals? What is wrong with that? It is a Free Country!

  • savinghorses2

    . Google daniel and carrie ault indiana, the new slaughter plant owners who lived the winter in a barn with over a hundred dead and 30 dying animals, hundreds in a grave out back, pooping in a feed bucket living with their two children in a tack room. Thats what animal and human rightsa for to get those children out and save the last animals. These people worked in strawtown indiana auction where kill horsez go through, they had their children living amoung dead and dying animals, these people were working to open a slaughter plant and support horse slaughter. The kids were taken from them, so were the live animals, hazmat was called in. I dont think i want our tax dollars involved in small family owned plants and farms like this one. You read and you decide. These people dont understand sanitation, food safety, or just protecting their own children.

    • savinghorses2

      Oh and they had money, they just simply chose to do this.

  • onafixedincome

    AR interference happens at all levels, not just ‘up top’. The laws which say, “We think you abused your animals, so we’re taking them away, BUT…you can keep title to them IF you can pay us what it’s costing us to build our case against you (ie vet care, feed, board, about five times the amount you usually spend, in other words) a month at a time, up front. Oh, and we’re having a hearing in three to ten days and you’ll probably need a lawyer if you aren’t already in the nuthouse or jail for trying to keep us from taking your animals in the first place.”…..Don’t tell me those are constitutional in any way, shape, or form! It’s outright blackmail with the scales loaded on the side of the agency which takes the animals, resulting in unreasonable and cruel punishment for the animal owner, the loss of their animals, and they don’t even need to be found guilty to lose everything they love.
    That’s Animal Rights for you–anything to get animals away from people who, God Forbid, have ‘too many’ or breed them or who you think don’t care for them well.

  • Mike Jefferson

    Joe Boy the Animal Rights extremist are coming our o the wood work. I see the same [people posting all over the internet Quoting made up facts and trying their very best to discredit anyone who objects to their brand of animal death and control . I have a request can you delete all of the hateful comments? It is distracting to the intent of the article as they quickly move off topic and go on attack mode. Shameful as I see it. I can’t wait for them to attack me now :)

  • marineh2ominer

    Woofpacker75 has just agreed with what I have been screaming for the last twenty hears , of course no one will hear him either .

  • bahndon

    They also lobby to end hunting, they are currently trying to stop lead from being used for bullets, in favor of “Green” projectiles, non of which have the correct density, or cost effectiveness.

    • onafixedincome

      That’s actually one of the saner changes out there–don’t know about you but I have a problem with being poisoned by lead when I eat a wild waterfowl because their crops are full of shot they have picked off the bottom. Steel etc are a bit more expensive, but once you get used to them, work quite as well.

      • bahndon

        There has never been any proof that lead shot has caused any health issue in over 200 years of using lead shot for hunting, the only thing I ever heard of is when some shot was missed when cleaning the bird being bitten when eating the meat.

  • savinghorses2

    If Calvary Group represents so many breeders then how is it that so many of the outstanding breeders We know haven’t even heard of them, and actually are leary of them now because they are reading the outright attacks on organizations. What’s incredible I just got done talking with the rancher who owns 5 AQHA stallions who have won tons of awards in the past 10 years and he has NEVER heard of the Calvary Group-thought they were mounted police, and then he read their site, I quote ” Is this some NEW type of cult, brain-washing normal folks waxing up the first amendment right to freedom of speech and completely rambling on using the Freedom Of Speech as the reason they are attacking any organization? I don’t believe in the HSUS or other businesses but I don’t like ANY organization that gains followers like the Calvary Group does by knocking people down. Exposing the truth is one thing but making it out as their way is the only right way. This country is made up of tons of people with opposing opinions but to beat someone over the head with theirs like Calvary Group and then to assassinate the Horse Breeders and Trainers by stating their group represents ALL of US is Ridiculous, Manipulative, and Underhanded. I know they don’t REPRESENT ALL The Horse PEOPLE or those of US who ARE breeders Would KNOW ALL about them. Some nerve of a rogue operation to state they represent the 9 million horse people in the Nation, not one organization they are defaming has claimed that statement and I for one know that is Ridiculous, and certainly nothing I want to see in print from any Attorney Group no matter who they are made up of or where they are from!” End of quote! Have a nice DAY! REpresent all the breeders, you never represented our viewpoint….I got news for you, you ONLY represent those who claim to know you, the rest of us, well we ACTUALLY make a living off land, cattle, horses, and professionally training, we donate hay, feeds, and help horse owners improve quality of their lives, we don’t have time to waste explaining we don’t like the HSUS or anyone else. Why are you wasting time doing this article series, so you can make more people see your tiny opinions?

    • onafixedincome

      It’s attitudes like that that have gotten ag where it is today. “Oh I don’t have the time to discuss” this or that; so the AR groups do it for us! “They do this and that horrible thing and they do it in this horrid way and it needs to change”. The only public opinion that counts is the one people hear–and we’d better start getting together and speaking up!

  • savinghorses2

    So the answer to everything in the horse slaughter industry is the government doesn’t kill the horses in the packing plants then it needs disassembled and politicians who get on board with the program should be in office? Wow, so the first amendment, the freedom to join together, the protections America offers are NOT available to the animals or to the animal owners? Because you want a NEW WORLD ORDER and OUT The politicians who do what you expect them to and kill the animals. Hey I got one for ya, it didn’t work out for Hitler! By the way-the 80 percent can just keep voting the wrong ones out and the 20 percent can still yell death, death, death all you want

    • chamuiel

      Do you and the horse eat the same foods?

      • savinghorses2

        As for the horses and us eating the same foods, I don’t consume bute, or banamine, or eat smark pak equine supplements, nor do I eat the special weight gainers, steroids, or take the West Nile/Rabbies vaccines, nor do I consume wormers quarterly, I also don’t eat pesticide for flies so no not at all

        • savinghorses2

          We stand three of the Nationsmost prominent studs, cover Only 5 mares a year for last 5years, intentionally so we do Not overproduce, we are Not activists, in fact we have always stood AgainstAbusivetrainers, such as Cleve Wells, we have always won the most prestigious awards because we take pride inWell trained stock, but we dont train for one show divisionor class, they are trained to trail ride, work, and play, we build bomb proof horses all withouttricks, pain, contraptions, and BS. We, each of our family earned the right to speak out Againstanimal Abuse, Neglect, when hay prices skyrocketed, we gave h thousands of bales to needy animalsthats how we discovered liars parading around as rescues, thoughtwed agree and geton board the slaughter house gravy train, boy were they ever wrong! We have been in the industry for Four Generations, my greatgrandfather knew Hank Wisecamp when he got started, our family has very much played out on the photo history of horses, notablymy grandpafather wrote articles in the 70s for Western Horseman And stood up againstthe BLM. Just because im not one of the good old boys breed em til we cant afford club doesnt mean im not horseman throughand through. Not all horse trainershate horses, i know its run rampant for years, but we dont feel that way. Like me or hate me, i am for the horses.

    • chamuiel

      Huh? Hitler didn’t kill the horses? You are funny, the Germans ate a lot of horsemeat in WWII, especially in the latter days of the war when they were starving.

      • savinghorses2

        Oh yes and if you read the history on Germany many illnesses were attached to that issue and many military perished because of it. Kind of kharma did its job issue.

    • Wordmahn

      How interesting that your handle is “savinghorses2″. You say you are for those who breed and make their livings working raising animals but you often speak like an Animal Rights person.

  • Lenna Hanna-O’Neill

    Stop making this about Left and Right. You made me stop reading by the fourth sentence when you made it clear that you did NOT understand this problem; you want to color it blue and make it about party and politics. No, it is not a ‘Left’ position; is Rick Santorum a Democrat? Yet who authored the odious PUPS bill? The FACT is, there are plenty of animal rights zealots across the political spectrum, and trying to associate it with one or another party distracts from the message and puts you at odds with those who would otherwise join you in the trenches.

    You could have written this entire article and let out any reference to political affiliation, without affecting your core message, which IS an important one: that animal rights activists are co-opting our rights on an ever-larger scale, and that their infiltration of government bodies that provide oversight to our agriculture puts them in a position to wreak havoc on not just the pet industry, but indeed on all animal producers. This has the potential to fundamentally change our society, and it also puts our food security as a nation in terrible jeopardy. Yet instead you CHOSE to alienate half your potential audience by making a statement that was not just divisive, it was also untrue. If you do not know the true shape of a problem, you have no hope to correct it. I hope you will give this some thought before you address this issue publicly again.

    • savinghorses2

      Did you know that the rest of the US that is NOT agri based BIG AG has a voice too. AND further more did you know that NOT ALL OF US BIG AG AGREE WITH EVERYTHING the NINNY’s lobby for in Washington, or do you just assume all of us cattle baron’s carry clubs and enjoy looking like Prehistoric Meat Eating Monkey’s wearing anti-peta shirts? What is wrong why my industries? I thought that raising cattle was for pride and to feed the World, when in fact, I was wrong, its to show Congress what for, push around the animal lovers, murder everything that can be slaughtered for meat. This is a sickness you have my friend instead of fairness and equality you are fighting to greed and inhumanity.

      • chamuiel

        Why didn’t you guys choose the Buffalo to raise for meat.

        Buffalo has a lot less fat than beef, and tastes better.

        • savinghorses2

          Oh yes on the sacred Buffalo argument, for many years they were Federally protected and until a certain amount were restored to satisfy the government only then were they allowed as a food source, with the high costs involved in buying them, the slow breeding process and the very low demand for the meat.

      • Lenna Hanna-O’Neill

        Who in the holy CRAP do you think you are talking to? I am a FARMER you nit. I raise animals to EAT. Food for PEOPLE. And no, I am not a “prehistoric meat eating monkey,” either; I am a FARMER. That means that my animals are raised in the best and most humane way that I can manage, because that way they grow faster and healthier and are better for me and others to EAT. Killing meat animals for food is not MURDER it is SUSTENANCE. Pretending that we should all live together and sing kumbaya is childish and unrealistic. The world’s population increase is slowly dropping, but it will be a long time before it turns the corner, and in the meantime there are a lot of hungry people, And yes, I do take pride in feeding the hungry, too bad that seems to cork you off. In my opinion the ‘sickness’ is for people to pretend they have a RIGHT to rip away our food security because they have some moral objection to animal slaughter. Get over yourselves. If you don’t approve of eating meat, don’t. But you have no legitimate right to tell others who are not ashamed to be omnivores like Nature made them that they must eat as YOU demand. You will find in short order that people will pick up a gun to defend their right to put food on the table for their hungry children. You only *think* it’s a bloodbath for the horses. And please, stop with the fake history lessons; your BS about how horse meat is ‘dangerous’ is just exactly that; BS. It’s been eaten since forever, and no it does not ‘kill dogs and cats who eat it’ either. What a crock of… horse stuff. You might just as well say that CORN or WHEAT ‘kills animals’ because animal foods containing THOSE products have also been recalled, for various reasons.
        You say you love horses, but you have an *appalling* lack of real knowledge about much of anything concerning how their remains are handled, either at a slaughter house or anywhere else. I’d be willing to bet that your ‘love’ ends at the keyboard. Some of us have been out here in the trenches actually rescuing LIVE animals, giving them care, and finding them good homes, in my case for several *decades* now. Don’t try to teach Grandma how to suck eggs, junior.

        • savinghorses2

          Wow! YOU certainly ARE a farmer, Loud mouthed and rude, uninformed, yes horse meat kills cats and dogs, for your information ITS under FEDERAL LAW that they CANNOT make dog or cat food with horse meat due to the major lawsuit after it KILLED thousands of pets. So before your uninformed data reaches the innocent eyes of the people who read you satire, you may also want to contact the Center for Disease Control which has documented deaths from horsemeat or Contact the USDA itself and ACTUALLY ask them about the Federal Law prohibiting them, that means permanently from using it in pet foods. So for the Facts you ranting loon, I lived within 3 miles of DEKALB IL plant and we were the first private citizens to speak against it, and YES we alerted the HSUS because we got tired of dead horse body parts and blood on our country roads, high incidents of thefts. My grandfather and the law went into the plant and recovered 6 stolen animals in one trailer load! So before you say anything you check the FEDERAL LAW REGARDING THE PET FOODS. As for the rest of this, go to New MExico Against Horse slaughter facebook, read how day after day kill buyers are going in to be prosecuted for their failure to follow the rules of transporting, or handling animals illegally. The fact that you are a FARMER doesn’t impress me, we own a multi-million dollar farm and our lands cross into 3 states, we own orchards, raise angus, train horses at the World Show levels in three registries, we are 4th generation horse trainers, and we are not the slightest bit neglectful of any animals. WE EAT MEAT and we don’t want horse meat to even cause the slightest damage to the market place for beef. And I am not stupid to the insiders at the FSIS working with Sue Wallis to get this approved. So it runs both ways. We raise corn, beans, and have built 2 retail stores that have been very successful. We are college educated and have first hand experience with horse slaughter and the ramifications of this industry. Before you start hen pecking people you need to do a little work on your common sense. And finally you can call me a ninny all you want, but I have a board put together setting up a 3 million dollar facility to save the so-called unwanted horses that are going to be slaughtered and I bet you haven’t done a damn thing to be a part of the solution for yourself but argue with people! And finally, I am tired of picking up the mess within OUR horse industry that nit wits like yourself keep spilling all over our ground, you want blood, stay with your damn farm animals and leave the horses alone! No one asked your FARMER’s opinion, we just stated the facts as we see them. If you cant read the Federal LAW that’s your fault! As for the facts on what happens in slaughter-I would happy to let you take a walk through our community and have them answer all the questions on what they witnessed and then talk to the DeKalb Sanitation Department on why they HAD to close this particular plant down. IT was clearly stated in repeated court documents reviewed in Federal Court which closed it down! So you need to do your homework! I am proud to say I am against This! Period! Its a waste of tax dollars to entertain it!

        • savinghorses2

          OH AND BEFORE :YOUR WORDS BURN the stupidity of the comments you make into the forums you visit. Make sure you even reference your pro-slaughter factions only one statement in their Wikipedia Horse Meat article, because if you are capable of reading then you would notice they make one simple statement in reference to horse meat being outlawed in the 1970’s from pet foods. This is in reference to the STILL standing ban and for those of you who believe the internet is the HOLY GRAIL which it is NOT you may find it hard to believe but in the 1970’s to the early 1980’s there was a series of MASSIVE publicized Federal Lawsuits that went to the Supreme Court for KILLING thousands of pets. If you are capable of using your typewriter then you are capable of going to the library in your area and going through archived news stories relating to this in the 1970/1980’s and read how it played out in the NEWS you know when the NEWS was actually printed on newspapers! They also prohibited it chicken feed and they also stated the Tribes basically withdrew from eating it during the same time for the same reason=it was killing pets. And before you start pulling facts out of thin air-my offer stands for you to come to OUR community and ask the questions about what WE/OUR community went through because of this plant. My grandfather came out of it with horses he recovered that were stolen from a neighbors farm, with blood on his shirt, they broke three of his ribs while he was in there, I can show YOU The Police report! I am not a computer rider, I am a proponent for the horses, I am writing here to SAVE THE HORSE industry! We are doing IT! and Just to prove my point-just so you know, an auctioneer asked the kill buyers not to show at his sale and he noted it was one of the smoothest sales, no horses injured, no conflicts, and the horses sold higher than ever, and they sold every last one, he made more profit than if kill buyers were present! So WE are out working on the horse industry-I am tired of computer riders trying to stomp out the last shred of human decency this country has! As for the evidence of what I have, I have NO problem having you walk amoung us! We witnessed it, we are unafraid to tell what we know! And until you have seen a horse awaken after being hit with a captive bolt more than 12 times and try to struggle upside down bleeding, terrified you really don’t have a clue what cruelty is. My grandfather was so motivated by what he witnessed he fought against it until his death. So don’t run me over with your a farmer, cause we farm too, or how your animals are taken care of, ours are too, but we have a line in the sand to draw and THIS IS MINE!

  • Leigh Combs

    Can anyone here say or even think “moderation”? Yes, we eat animals as a way of survival and have been doing it for 1000s of years, but do we need to be inhumane about the way they are raised? And please do not make the mistake of thinking I am advocating government intervention in the process. The government only makes a bigger mess of any problem we have. I am saying as a society we should be able respect the very animals that are providing us with sustenance. The same goes for our pets. Does any thinking/feeling human really want to own an animal that has come out of a factory that raises it’s breeding stock in deplorable conditions?

    • onafixedincome

      Why do people assume that large scale means deplorable conditions by default? Animal agriculture can never be completely, lab-quality clean–it just isn’t possible without serious outside funding or extreme automation–which is also claimed to be a ‘bad thing’. The very vast majority of ag operations, regardless of scale, are humane and decent, if not spotless; the animals are healthy within acceptable limits; adequate if not sumptuous care is regularly given; the farmer does everything he can to ensure the welfare of his stock, because if he doesn’t, he isn’t going to survive. Animals that aren’t in good shape aren’t going to be producing to the standard needed in today’s farming, and thus are removed from the herd/flock–and the flock/herd is stronger as a result. It’s all part of good animal management.

  • Glenn H

    The bible clearly says that all the animals and plants upon the earth were put here for our use as food!
    These liberal wacko’s were obviously put here to show the absolute extreme limits of human STUPITY!

    • savinghorses2

      Clearly looks as though you have ate them all there Glenn, might pass on the horses and cut back on the food consumption.

      • Glenn H

        Yes I am a pretty large guy but I hope you can also see that there are two beautiful little girls one sitting on either side of me there on that tailgate, I guess that is where your comment came from.
        By the way I do not like a horse of any kind and sure as hell am not going to eat one, but some people do and that’s their choice.
        Did you know that the party of Lewis and Clark ate horses and dogs, probably not, I doubt you would know much at all about history, just sarcasm.
        Another thing that you might be offended with is that our solders during WW2 were fed more horse meat than any other kind because for some reason it didn’t spoil as easy as beef!
        I personally think that a horse is more likely to be abused than most other animals simply because so many people try to keep them when they don’t have enough space. It isn’t uncommon to see a poor horse that you can count the ribs on from some distance inside a tiny pen with absolutely no vegetation at all, not near enough food to sustain them and literally starving. But the owner can say I have a horse. Those horses would be better off eaten!

        • savinghorses2

          You NEED to watch the corrections that the History Channel made to the fictional stories on Lewis and Clark, they corrected that when they discovered the person originally stating that was off on a ton of the facts and then later admitted he made up the facts in order to sell the story. As for the Eating of abused animals, lets help you out with this, we are a civilized country and we are
          NOT talking about cattle, for starters they only use 50 percent of the horses parts leaving one half the carcass to waste, they are NOT allowed to burn, incinerate or render those parts because they are FEDERALLY banned from pet food for killing cats and dogs. So then they have say 160,000 horses they cut in half so they are wasting 80,000 complete horse bodies if you count them together. So then they are in a waste decomposition container which even with the state of the ART, top of the line containment they still had super huge issues with the waste leaking out, over the top and into the water lines, backing up into bathtubs and coming out in faucets. So really this is NOT just about the flavor of the meat for poor sad horses. As well, I know people who have micro-farming down to a science and have healthier more cared for animals than those turned loose on large acreage and forgotten.

  • rivahmitch

    At some point, government droids need to start disappearing in large numbers. Crabs, vultures, buzzards, and many other wildlife species will appreciate their contribution.

  • IHateLibs

    More like Animal Rights Terrorists in my book

    • savinghorses2

      So the terrorists are the people who are saving the horses from being burned to death in horse trailers, not the killer buyers who allowed them to burn to death while alive and aware of the tremendous heat and flames. The terrorists are the people saving the animals from the long transport where they are seriously injured, turned loose in the desert when not accepted for meat hacking? So what exactly are the killer buyers and the meat packers? And why are they called killer buyers? Does anyone know? Cause I do, not cause they transport horses nicely to their slaughter houses, no, in fact, killer buyers received their names and it was ugly on purpose because in 1951 a man found a farm where there were 212 horses owned by a slaughter/trader and when the authorities went to the farm in Arkansas over a complaint of smell that was horrible they found over 120 dead animals meat carved from their bodies, and the rest of the carcasses spread around. The term killer buyer was coined to let people know these horrible people would “kill” anything they got whether by starvation, denied health care, or worse brutal abuse at the hand of the “trainer”. So the brutality of the killer buyers were exposed and the morbid tag of death dealer handed to them to warn potential people their animals would not survive their ownership. It was also to drive down the prices the killer buyers sold good horses for, so they couldn’t rip people off from getting horses low and selling high and the most intelligent of horse people who occasionally “buy out a kill buyer” to run the ot of town. Now they stick together puff up their chest to appear bigger and seek to destroy our horse industry once again. I would say those are terrorists, and I would think that they are animal rights terrorists because they are the ones fighting for the right to brutally trailer, kill, withholding water, food, and slaughtering for only half the body and a sack of gold. The word terrorists is to destroy, murder, pilage with the intent to do severe harm for a purpose often times in the name of God or under the guise of being peaceful or vengeful. So the organizations are not the terrorists in this definition of your statement.

      • chamuiel

        O.K. you save horses. Good for you, now my dog needs some dogfood.

        Step aside.

        • savinghorses2

          WELL IF YOUR DOG NEEDS DOG FOOD it cannot be made in the USA because It was BANNED For Killing thousands of cats and dogs in 70’s and 80’s and then it sent Alpo into bankruptcy when it was discovered illegally there after killing pets. So have at it, obviously the FEDERAL LAW that BANNED it doesn’t mean anything to you, so obviously you don’t care about the dog you need to feed.

          • Lenna Hanna-O’Neill

            Show me your sources for that. Not only do I find that statement suspicious, I actually looked it up and *I* cannot find a single thing about any law banning horse meat from *animal* consumption, certainly not a Federal one. And if such a ban had taken place, it would certainly not have been for ‘killing pets’ because first off, horse meat that is unadulterated is quite safe for ANY animal to eat, has been part of the food chain for centuries without problem, and secondly, there are a lot of foods based on beef and chicken that have killed pets and while there have been massive recalls of specific products, there is no ‘ban,’ federal or otherwise, on any of the INGREDIENTS in those foods. I think you pulled that comment either out of thin air, or you got it off of some anti-animal slaughter site, where *they* made it up out of thin air to support their position. Source, please.

          • savinghorses2

            CALL THE USDA

          • savinghorses2

            OR can U use the phone? I find most pro-slaughter people cant google correctly or call to find out legitimate facts!

      • Babs Hennelly Kothe

        Thank you for educating us On how the kill buyers got the name..I did not know that..And the only witty response chamuiel can come up with is that his dog needs some food..pathetic..they stopped using horsemeat in dogfood decades ago because the toxins were killing people’s pets.. This article was not even worth the few minutes it took to read it..I am continually amazed at how people with such twisted and bizarre ideas live among us..

        • onafixedincome

          Horsemeat out of dog food came from the banning the use of wild horses for meat, folks…

  • woofpacker75

    Time to close everything that is NOT specifically defined by Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution: EPA, Interior, Energy, Education, HUD, FHA, Fannie, Freddie, USDA, GSA, TSA, FEMA, and of course (for other reasons) the IRS. And privatize whatever possible, starting with USPS.

    Every one of these operations has outlived its usefulness. On balance, they are more trouble than they are worth in meager benefits to society. Repeal the authorizing legislation, cancel all the regulations, terminate all the employees, and sell all their capital assets.

    And then watch America explode with new business activity, jobs, productivity, and an economy that will pay off that $17 trillion in debt in short order!

    • TombstoneLizard

      Expect a bloody war with the bureaucrats to put such fundamental common sense into effect! The next “Civil War” won’t be along race or party lines, it will be along government vs. U.S. citizens (a line already pretty well defined!)

      • woofpacker75

        Yup, you’re right. But it’s the only way to get control of the FedGov again. It would be a no-win strategy to nibble at the existing legislation and bureaucracy structure. But go in and close the doors wholesale (cutting with a meat axe, not a scalpel) and you are then in a position to re-implement Article 1 section 8 as the Founders wrote it. Otherwise, any bureaucrats left standing would be plotting with their Democrat fellow-travelers in the Congress to resurrect the stuff that was cut before the ink is dry on the cutting legislation.

      • anoamus

        i think you mean revolutionary war removal of tyranny that is what government vs citizens! i am not correcting just suggesting that our founding fathers did the same to win freedom from tyranny

    • chamuiel

      Under obama watch America explode with even more high unemployment rates reaching upwards towards 30%.

  • blair152

    PETA=PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS. ALL GOD’S CREATURES DESERVE A PLACE ON THE PLATE. RIGHT NEXT TO THE MASHED POTATOES.

    • IHateLibs

      Ya cant make Good Gravy, without Good Meat

      • blair152

        That’s right. The drippings are everything and you also need a bottle of Gravy Master.

        • chamuiel

          A bottle of grave master?

          didn’t your Mamma ever teach you how to make gravy from scratch?

          You youngsters, always wanting to do things the easy way. Prepackaged, pre portioned foods, gravy master.

          • blair152

            I said Gravy Master. My grandmother did all the cooking up until 1983 when she went into the hospital with a heart condition. My grandmother used water, the drippings, flour, and a little Gravy Master to thicken it.

          • chamuiel

            My Grandmother used drippings, Flour, and seasonings. No Gravy Master, all from Scratch. I still do the same today. You let the gravy cook down (remove the moisture) to thicken it. If you want to do it the easy way, you can also use corn starch to thicken it.

            My Grandmother said using Gravy Master or corn starch was cheating.

          • blair152

            My grandmother, and now my mother, always used Gravy Master and Argo Corn Starch, for thickening.

          • chamuiel

            That is not making gravy from scratch. That is taking the lazy way to make gravy. *sigh* So many people today take the shortcuts and have moved away from real cooking.

          • blair152

            It may be shortcut, but some people don’t have time spend all day making gravy.

          • chamuiel

            Suggestion,to use your quaint words, don’t have all day to make gravy,

            (actually that is just an excuse to take shortcuts)

            Then just buy it in the jar or can at your local supermarket.

            Simple, yes?

            I have made gravy from scratch plenty of times, and guess what, it didn’t take all day.

          • blair152

            Or the mix. I attend a small local Congregational church where I live and we have a food pantry. Around Thanksgiving, we do food baskets for the needy. We either put gravy in a jar, or gravy mix, in the cardboard boxes.

          • chamuiel

            Or the dry mix. You can even make the dry mix more authenic by adding a small amount of drippings (Bacon grease) to it.

          • blair152

            Yes, you could.

          • Joseph A. Nagy, Jr

            You’re doing it wrong if it takes more than 10 minutes to make from scratch gravy.

      • onafixedincome

        Yep. And the best way in the world to thicken it in a hurry (if you’re so inclined)–instant mashed potatoes! Seriously! Much easier than cornstarch.

    • savinghorses2

      Blair? any relation to Blair gonna kill the horsies Dunne?

      • blair152

        Nope. No relation to Blair Underwood either. It’s a very uncommon unisex name.

  • Greg

    HSUS = PETA…both animal terrorist supporting groups. Both groups depend on, as Lenin called them, “Useful Idiots”. Lots of leftists heading both areas, hating business, capitalism and anyone enjoying their life without the government’s approval.
    Sounds like “crookedick” has some comprehension and reality problems…so he’s all set for HSUS fundraising and midnight laboratory visits.
    Evil and animal psychos…but after all, they really don’t care about animals, small fuzzies are their way of controlling society and people’s lives. PETA is famous for killing animals…from the rescued monkeys Pacelle “rescued” (He later killed the monkeys, but used their photos for rundraising) to the death van PETA ran between Washington DC and Richmond, where the PETA employees killed dogs while on the road…hey, they just love animals, they bring in so much money from “useful idiots”.

    • savinghorses2

      Got a question what have you personally done to save the animals of the world? What have you done with your skills, money, and words to help with animal health and welfare? I use the sign on saving horses 2 but I don’t own a rescue, support rescues, donate to rescues, in fact, have never given a dime to one. But the term saving horses was coined from the fact that we have a 4th generation family in cattle/horses im a pro-trainer in AQHA, APHA, ApHC I have been in horses in our family from birth, we grow several crops, we own a couple of orchards and we are still giving back nearly constantly, we PUT our money where OUR mouth is and we were wondering why is your mouth running and where do YOU put your money to save animals if you are so dead set against any organization. I really don’t care about the organizations, many times over organizations look at AQHA have been found to have corruption on some basic level, rescues, or what have you are the same as any business they have corrupt people and they have very knowledgable capable people with the resources to do whats right, my concern is so many people without any idea what to do. Slaughter is NOT A solution, in fact, its really legalized theft, nothing more. It offers too little a pay for the product materials and rips off all the horse people who sell to it, it preys upon the gullable saying it offers solutions to starving animals, which it does not, it just kills them off, that’s really not a solution. However, in the middle of the drought we gave away thousands of bales of hay, we offered thousands more for an extra year at 2 bucks a bale and free to those who were still in a jam. We offered free corn, oats, and straw bales. We also assisted by allowing people to drop off horses and we watched over them while the people secured new employment and every person came and retrieved their horses when their issues were resolved. So what I ask have you done? As an individual so strongly against the pagan animal rights people, as a regular joe, whats your honest pay it forward in the horse/animal industry? Or is everyone just a bunch of slaughterists?

      • chamuiel

        I do my share. I eat the animals.

      • onafixedincome

        I endorse horse slaughter–if it is humane and is gradually improved as we learn more about better methods! And yes, it *is* a solution. It’s not a nice solution, or a pretty one, but it does prevent horses from being starved and neglected to death and will clear up a lot of abuse cases that clog the courts. By limiting our resources, the AR groups win. They have the money, the time, and the pull to make sure that animal owners remain low on funds to fight them with, low on time to argue with, and lower and lower on animals to make a living with. What have *I* done…let’s see. I help people maintain their animals; I educate every chance I get; I don’t have much money to help with, so I do it with sweat and time. I take in animals as I can, counsel owners of those I can’t, and I teach backyard farmers how to accomplish health and sanitation–things they just don’t think about until they’re drowning in chicken poop or whatever. I do a lot of writing to try and help people rethink their animal-supremacist-influenced opinions on farming….and yep, I eat plenty of the critters I raise as well as the *OMG* ‘factory farmed’ ones. *rolling eyes* Overall, I do a lot more to actually help animals on the ground than HSUS and PeTA ever do or have done….and I think that most breeders and ranchers and farmers do, as well.

  • g55rumpy

    glad all my dogs and cats have been mutts and alley cats

  • scott

    You must work for HSUS.

  • crookedstick

    Thank You Cavalry Group for making it clear that it is our G-d-given Constitutional Right to abuse our animals any way we see fit. This HSUS is just a bunch of pansies who don’t like the sight of blood. Same with our kids, if we want to beat them to a pulp, that is our perogative. Same with puppies, they have no real feelings at all!

    • Ronald R. Johnson

      It seems you have been on here a little to long and U and Scott will be late for your next three some sleep over with Obama! U better hurry and pack, have fun!

    • Larry B, Cates

      Are you being sarcastic or do you have some sort of mental disorder?

    • TombstoneLizard

      Why can’t we vote to disallow trolls like yourself from posting drivel? Free speech is one thing, and I can appreciate a reasonable dissent, but you are a candidate for being hired as a component to the nearest “Whack-A-Mole” game at Chucky Cheese!

    • savinghorses2

      No Actually I am grateful you made the statement about beating children and killing your animals-it shows what the organizations are up against and Why Congress has to do their job. We don’t want people brutalizing animals and beating up little children and that’s what Cavalry Group is about? I am glad you actually made that clear. I have been waiting for the truth to come out about the truly crazy anti-animal activists and the way BIG AG is attempting to run Congress and if this is really what the CALVARY GROUP represents is the inhumane deaths of horses and the abuse of small children then they need to be stopped! You people are absolutely insane! I knew pro-slaughter were abusive, violent people who have apparently chosen greed over the truth, but this takes the cake!